Comments on: Odds and Ends: Halladay, Park, Duchscherer

By: George

George — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:55:48 +0000

If the Phils sign one of those high risk guys it will be someone like Rodrigo Lopez: really cheap. According to Amaro, they are looking for depth, in case Moyer and Kendrick don’t work out. You just don’t sign a fifth starter for the money Sheets, Harden, and probably even Duchscherer will get, and you certainly don’t pay much for a number 6 or 7.

By: jrollpatrol08

jrollpatrol08 — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:29:00 +0000

jeff,

yea i agree i want beltre for christmas also. his deal is gonna look like 3yr/24mil is my prediction

i also like the idea of low salary relievers, especially since these guys always seem to be overpaid to end up playing poorly. from relievers, you never know what ur gonna get. although i wouldnt necessarily consider durbin and condrey to be ‘diamonds in the rough,’ i agree with your overall train of thought. bullpen strength is a necessity but dont need to overspend for a jjputz type that will not be worth a cent

i dont really see halladay coming here because ruben doesnt want to give up the farm and it would be hard financially to keep him in a 4year extention. i like duchscherer but he is young enough to command a decent salary as far as figures and years. i like him over the sheets, harden who seem to be injured all the time

the reason taylor isnt onthe roster because he will start out in aa or aaa. you cant just plug hiim in on the bench with the current outfield we have now. he will get more playing time and conditioning at the lower levels and come up mid season maybe

By: Dylan

Dylan — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:23:12 +0000

GET DUKE!

By: Jeff of Nova

Jeff of Nova — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:42:36 +0000

I loved Coste, but Schneider is a big upgrade. Those thinking he is a is not are thinking with their hearts not brains. A back up that has such a ridiculously strong knowledge of the NL East hitters is huge.

Schneider was a Phillies killer glad to have him.
So my wish list now sits like this for Christmas.

3B- Beltre

several low salary relievers that we invite to camp to compete. Signing a reliever cause he had one good year somewhere is not how it works for relievers. We found diamonds in the rough like Durbin, Romero, Condrey,etc.

Starting pitcher, now we all know Halladay is the best fit here, but seems unlikely unless we are able to get him without giving up, any of the starters we have now or Drabek. If we don’t then a Sheets, or Durchsherer would be a nice option.

Bench hitters that can hit! I wouldn’t mind seeing Michael Taylor on the bench this year, but noticed that he is not even on the 40 man roster, Quintin Berry is though. I have a feeling that Taylor maybe traded for something we need in the next 3 months.

By: Manny

Manny — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:34:12 +0000

Poor Jays… at this rate they won’t be getting too much for Halladay…

By: George

George — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:20:08 +0000

Harden and Sheets will command more than Duchscherer, and Harden is a dud because he rarely makes it through the 6th inning. In spite of his tremendous stuff, he’ll strain anyone’s bullpen.

As 5th starters go, there are options that, though not great pitchers, can at least go 6-7. These “high risk/high reward” types may prove too expensive for the back end of the rotation, particularly if the high risk part of the equation kicks in.

The only one who might work would be Duchscherer, but even he might cost too much for a number five.

By: Lucky

Lucky — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:38:42 +0000

Yes def Coste over Schneider…Schneider may be the better catcher (BUT not by that much), but Coste has much more power, and much more heart than Schneider. Hats off to the Mets. They got one hell of a guy on their ballclub. It may be an emotional favorite, Im not sure but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Like I said, Im not upset with the signing. Amaro did good here.

By: beta sigma shag

beta sigma shag — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:36:27 +0000

I really do not think Doc will be coming to Philly, first the FO does not work that way, give up a lot for one year of a guy. Second he would be pretty expensive. I do not know that much about Duchscherer, other than I would have a hard time pronouncing his name. I think Park is crazy wanting to start. Does he want to start for Baltimore, Washington, or Pittsburg, or be a key piece out of the pen for a team that has a chance to go to the WS for the third year in a row. It just does not make sense to me. He was pretty good out of the pen for us last year.

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:36:14 +0000

It depends on what “buy-low” means … cause Harden and Sheets will probably get $8+ M per year .. that’s not buying low

It’s high-risk, high-reward

the risk for Dusch is lower, because he will come cheaper.. but he would probably still get $4 or 5 Million per season I think?

By: Ed 2

Ed 2 — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:30:12 +0000

Amaro seems like the type to take a shot at one of those buy low pitchers. He has Duchscherer, Harden, and Sheets to pick from, I just hope he picks the right one. I wonder why no one sees the injury ridden Harden as a reliever with his high K/9 rate? Picking one of those three and hoping for the best seems like the best way to keep costs down and potentially improve the club. Is Moyer/Kendrick really going to be our 5th starter?

By: Chuck

Chuck — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:27:24 +0000

Coste over Schneider because it’s an “emotional” pick???……I like Chris Coste a lot…..he’s a great guy and one of those “Phillies for life”…..but PLEASE…..Schneider is an AWESOME pick-up!!…..Kudos to RAJ..

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:36:45 +0000

Coste over Schnieder ?? really ..

By: Pat Gallen

Pat Gallen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:36:20 +0000

Hey guys, Schneider post is up if you want to jump over that that thread…

By: Lucky

Lucky — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:34:43 +0000

I like the Schneider deal alot…Is it me or does it seem like Amaro took a shot at the Mets for signing Coste and turning the tables and signing their catcher? If you ask me I would personally say that the Mets won that trade, cause I would take Coste over Schneider anyday.

By: Bob in Bucks

Bob in Bucks — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:32:40 +0000

Schneider always seemed to step up against the Phillies. I presume we are not paying him $4million! I would have preferred a younger guy, he is trending down but he knows the league. Seems the Phillies like the back-up to be older.

By: Ed R.

Ed R. — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:31:29 +0000

I am good with the Schneider signing. A clear upgrade over Coste and Bako. No disrespect to Coste. Hopefully Schneider can add a spark to this team on the days he gets to start.

By: John

John — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:31:17 +0000

http://talksportsphilly.com/?p=1077

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:30:54 +0000

he already passed his physical.. and already signed the deal

I like it.. it’s not the greatest move in off-season history.. but its a nice “puzzle-piece” kinda deal

He fills a role on the team.. much better than Chris Coste or Paul Bako

weird that the mets took Coste, and let Schneider leave ??? when are they going to fire Omar Minaya?

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:30:35 +0000

Schneider is a revenge signing. Love it!

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:26:15 +0000

SWEET.. Brian Schneider will give Ruiz some much needed rest.. and seems to be a perfect fit for that backup catcher role ..

I was talking about him last week, but thought he would probably command too much money .. Nice work RUBEN

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I don’t think the Ducheserer? will be a “buy-low” … he’s a guy with lots of talent, and the ability to fill either role on the pitching staff

I don’t think he’ll be expensive.. but I think that teams that don’t have set payrolls will be looking into him .. I don’t know how we would afford him.. plus a closer-type pitcher, plus a starting 3b .. and keep the payroll under $140