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By: JJFritz

JJFritz — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:33:48 +0000

Wow… with all due respect to you guys… this post was about the late, GREAT Harry Kalas!! Why would you disrespect him like this?! Show some class. I was at the game in Washington when/where he died. I saw the medivac chopper take him from the stadium, and I heard it first when they announced it later in the game that he had just passed. It truly was the most heart-wrenching thing I heard, in a sports-fan’s perspective. He will truly be missed and loved. But, I know he did not die in vain. His memory will live on in all of us and his legacy has been planted in the hearts of true baseball fans for all of eternity. God bless you HK!

By: j reed

j reed — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:33:45 +0000

at least we don’t have to worry about jason bay on the braves now that he’s on the Smets

By: Chuck

Chuck — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:25:16 +0000

We live in a nation of complainers….we bitch, we complain, we second-guess….just so happens that we also live in Philadelphia….which is ABOVE the national average for people that bitch and complain…

Go Phillies!!!….I LOVE our chances in 2010!!!

By: j reed

j reed — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:19:35 +0000

The Lee Fiasco or as I call it “Randolph and Mortimer Duke betting you $1 that they could screw Philadelphians out of their best rotation since the 1929-31 A’s without anyone being the wiser” can not be connected with Moyer. No one had anyway of predicting that Myers would go down which was what got the whole ball rolling. And even if Myers hadn’t gone down most of us in our wildest dreams never thought Lee or halladay would be here. The Moyer signing was bad but not because it prevented us from keeping Lee. That was the ownership. Even if the books were open and the budget claims could be confirmed then you still can’t blame the Moyer signing on not having enough clams for Lee. I would say you could if the demand for starting pitching wasn’t so high, sometimes you take what you can get. The wild card in all of this is injuries. What if the Haloes lost Jared Weaver last year…they cetainly could have put together a prospect package for Lee or Halladay. Too many variables to balme present action on future pain. What made the Moyer signing dumb is he has no real value to other clubs. It’s a sunk cost unless he puts together one amazing year for a number 5 guy.

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:50:38 +0000

people just like to bitch… they bitched about Ibanez, they bitched about Pedro, they bitched that we got Lee not Halladay

and then bitched that we got Halladay not Lee

they bitched about Polanco

…… i look at this as the best Phillies roster, maybe ever .. I’m happy!

By: Chuck

Chuck — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:38:35 +0000

And that value is STILL the best of the group you mentioned…even if Polanco is a bench player in his 3rd year…

It’s just not the “sexy” choice for a 3rd baseman…so everyone is of course acting as if we signed Wes Helms or somebody like that..

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:28:44 +0000

son of a b!tc… I try to be witty.. and of course I mistype the phrase.

If Grandma had balls… she’d be Grandpa

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:24:05 +0000

If the RED SOX or YANKEES were the team that signed Polanco, Gammons would’ve called it the greatest move in baseball history…

Mark DeRosa = $6 M
Placido Polanoce = $6 M
Adrain Beltre = $8 M???
Chone Figgins = $9 M

who is the best value of the bunch??

I’d say Polanco, hands down

…

“If Grandma had balls… she’s be Grandpa”

By: Chuck

Chuck — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:16:51 +0000

Doesn’t really matter if we “overpaid” a little for Polanco…..he’s still an upgrade over Feliz…

And…PLEASE….can we just stop with the “If Moyer wasn’t signed” and the “I wish Halladay was traded for last year” and “If all that happened then Cliff Lee would still be here” (paraphrases) talk…..

The bottom line is we have a BETTER team as a WHOLE than we did….Will we win the World Series?…maybe, maybe not….but I like our chances to be right there….how many fans of the 30 other teams can say that?…

By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:04:45 +0000

You guys are not getting what I am saying We overpaid for Polanco. Bottom line…He is not worth 18 million. We still need bullpen help. Moyer makes me want to throw up. That money could of been used to keep Lee here. I just wish they made the trade last year for Halladay. Would of cost alot less. Charlie didnt even use Happ in the post season. Our best pitcher behind lee

By: Sarah

Sarah — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:50:44 +0000

Billy, just because Polanco might be a bad deal doesn’t mean they should’ve kept Feliz. Polanco was worth over 3 WAR (Wins Above Replacement) the past three years, Feliz’s highest WAR was 2.8 back in 2007 when he was still in San Fran. In fact, you could say Feliz was on a decline too- and he’s older than Polanco.
Polanco:
2007 WAR: 5.2
2008 WAR: 3.0
2009 WAR: 3.1
Feliz:
2007 WAR: 2.8
2008 WAR: 1.5
2009 WAR: 1.3
Plus Polanco had better batting stats last year in all the basics except home runs and RBI’s.
I think Polanco’s worth the extra half million over Feliz.

By: j reed

j reed — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:45:26 +0000

Yeah, 18 million for 3 years at his age isn’t that great but he’s better than Feliz at least at the plate. Yeah the Moyer thing just makes me shake my head… if it was Tim Wakefield I could handle it. But a cutter and a change-up with an increeasing shrinking strike zone. UGH. Can Moyer become a knuckleballer in a few months?

By: j reed

j reed — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:41:06 +0000

whoops that’s
“Always wondered if hitters’ BAs in divisions that have pitchers who are putting up cy young numbers are noticably affected “

By: j reed

j reed — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:35:57 +0000

I don’t think the Polanco signing was bad not the greatest either, but is Beltre as injury prone as people think? He did suffer from shoulder problems but a ruputred nut sack after getting nailed in the nads by a hard hit baseball hardly qualifies him as injury prone. I wonder if the rise of Zach Grenkie affected alot of batters BA’s in the ALCS. Always that have cy young like years. Probably not.
On Drabek, keep in mind that a kid of his pedigree who was probably afforded the best coaches and trainers shouldn’t have had to have tommy john surgery at his age. Something doesn’t add up.

By: Billy Craig

Billy Craig — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:24:47 +0000

peter gammons wrote…

Placido Polanco, Phillies – three years, $18MM. Where was the demand for a 34-year-old second baseman coming off a .727 OPS? What other club would’ve offered even one or two years at $5MM per?

By: Billy Craig

Billy Craig — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:22:29 +0000

I will hold you to that. I dont think he is a bad player. I just think we overpaid for him at 18 million. We out bidded ourself. He is 34 years old. I dont like these contracts. Just like Moyers contract. We need pen help so bad. I really think Drabek will be special. I have watched him pitch. He also has a father helping him who was a great pitcher.

By: Don M

Don M — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:20:17 +0000

Polanco is better than Pedro Feliz… and keeping Pedro would have kept us in the the 3b market NEXT offseason, when there would be less guys to choose from

Mark DeRosa isn’t nearly as good as Polanco, but will also be earning $6 M per season

and we didn’t have it in the budget to get Figgins… and Beltre isn’t worth the $8-9 M per year that he is seeking..

MAYBE that 3rd year won’t be great.. but considering Polanco would be able to also play 2nd, or 1st, gives us options when Howard leaves in two years, but Utley is still here

By: Johnny Snowden

Johnny Snowden — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:07:50 +0000

Billy … i promise … if Palanco has a “terrible” season & hits any less that .270 @ years end … I will buy you a steak diner and even let you say “I told you so” as many times as you need to.

By: Johnny Snowden

Johnny Snowden — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:52:09 +0000

so wait … when was it you applied for the GM gig over @ the phillies?

Ryan Howard 45 HR’s conspired to 48 in 2008 = DECLINE
Chase Utley: .282 compared to .292 in 2008 = DECLINE
Shane Victorino: .292 compared to .293 in 2008 = DECLINE
Jason Werth: .268 compared to .273 in 2008 = DECLINE

good god man. ease up …. wait till the guy actually plays to decide how “horrible” of a signing that was.