Blanton Agrees to 3-year Extension
Posted by Pat Gallen, Thu, January 21, 2010 02:47 PM | Comments: 50
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Joe Blanton has agreed to a three-year, $24 million contract extension to avoid arbitration.
Blanton finished the 2009 season with a 12-8 record and a 4.05 ERA. He tossed 195 1/3 innings, giving up 195 hits over 31 starts. At one point during the ’09 season, Blanton put together a string of 11 straight quality starts.
His contract will pay him $7 million this season, $8.5 million in 2011, and $8.5 in 2012. Another $500 k can be made through innings incentives.
This seems reasonable for a pitcher of his ilk, getting him for what seems to be lower than market value to stay in Philly. They could have let him go after the season and gone after a cheaper substitution, however, Blanton has always been very consistent. You know what you get from him: 12-14 wins, 30 starts, and an ERA a shade above four.
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Posts: 0 joe
i’ll take it.
Vic next, then Chooch.
this sets up the first 4 in the rotation through 2011..
gotta like that….and its a pretty good top 4 if you ask me
Posted: 02:49 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Jesus
I’m definitely on board with this. Think it’s really good value for a mid rotation type of pitcher. You know what you are going to get with Blanton, close to 200 innings and a low 4 ERA. I think with the signings that we have seen the last few years 8mill/yr is a good deal for Joe.
Posted: 02:59 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 roundoff
nice. i like those numbers for big joe.. quality guy, good deal
Posted: 03:03 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
That’s a good deal…
He’s now affordable if we keep him for all those years, or valuable if we decide to trade him after 2010. Being relatively inexpensive with two years left on his contract after 2010, he could now get you some decent prospects… perhaps even better than the ones we got from Cliff Lee….
Posted: 03:04 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Don M
GREAT deal for the Phillies.. locked him up under market value
and a GREAT deal for Blanton because it gives him security going forward, and the chance to stay with a contender!!!
I’m voting AMARO in 2012..
Posted: 03:12 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 JeffS
Not bad at all, considering what some pitchers got this off season. I guess security, and not the immediate highest figure is what he wanted.
Is anyone bean-counting? Can they do the same thing with Shane and Chooch? It’s not like we have any catchers left in the system (one of the things I didn’t like a lot about the trades), so Ruiz might as well get multiple years.
Posted: 03:12 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 bfo_33
Solid signing. Screw you, Olney.
Posted: 03:15 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
Amaro LOVES 3-year deals..hahaha!
Posted: 03:16 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Don M
I think Chooch is still under team control for 2-3 more years?
Victorino is only under team control for one more season… so I would imagine they’re looking to extend Victorino for two-three
and not really worried about Ruiz yet.. but if they did, it would probably be something like 5 years, $20 M
Posted: 03:16 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Malcolm
What a great signing. Compared to what Joe was probably looking for and asked in his arbitration submission, this seems much more suitable. The Phillies are glad to have their big boy stay put in the middle of the rotation.
Blanton is a workhorse. He can improve his control for bases on balls, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he still allowed 25+ homers. One thing you have to love is Blanton’s growing use of the out pitch for the strikeout. He enjoyed his highest strikeout per 9 innings rate of his career, upping his career high by 2 whole strikeouts (5.5 to 7.5). Joe has a good chance to equal his career high in wins with this offense and defense behind him. His ERA may fluctuate, but he is a proven veteran and is reaching the potential of his prime.
He is a stand-up player and personality. This is nowhere close to the money Brett Myers received. Moreover, I think a vast majority of the Phillies Nation would rather have Joe on the team than Brett.
I hope everyone who talked back yard trash on Joe when he asked for 10 million in arbitration are now relieved and nodding their heads.
Posted: 03:17 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
I love it.
I’ll tell ya..this deal…along with the UNDER MARKET deal for Roy Halladay…awesome job, Ruben..
Yeah…whos’s that Cliff guy, again??
Posted: 03:22 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 John
I like it, one of the only good things Ruben has done all offseason.
Posted: 03:27 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Bones
Awesome. Hallday and Blanton guaranteed on the roster for 3 years. Blanton gets the job done.
Posted: 03:28 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
“one of the only good things Ruben has done all season”
So upgrading the #1 starter, third-basman, back-up catcher, pinch-hitter/reserve outfielder, an dutility infielder…as well as a key bullpen signing….all those moves sucked….right??
Posted: 03:34 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder
Good deal. It’s the same deal they gave Adam Eaton three years ago (with the major exception being that Blanton can actually pitch.)
Posted: 03:37 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
And this move is what makes the Cliff Lee trade make sense.
So basically we have 4/5′s of the starting rotation locked up for the next 3 years? Or is Hamels done after 2011?
Posted: 03:37 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Exactly, Ed R.
I truly think this WAS the plan all along…Halladay AND Blanton ….both below market value…..
is SUCH a better deal…than Halladay and Cliff Lee..(with no Blanton)
Posted: 03:41 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Because now there’s extra money….moving forward….to worry about the contracts of guys like Werth, Howard, Rollins..
Posted: 03:42 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Wait…Eaton can’t pitch? But he can collect a W.S ring like a champ/chump.
Posted: 03:43 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Bingo…now we can try and lock up Werth with the extra money saved on below market deals for 2 of our starters, as well as the dirt cheap value on Happ’s deal, and Hamel’s contract isn’t bad either.
Cheer up Phillies fans. Thinks might just work out after all.
Posted: 03:45 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 PRD
Its all about extending the window of opportunity as long as possible. They may not be a dream team any year but they’ll be in the fight for many years. I’ll take that.
Posted: 03:48 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Hopefully they can get one more ring during this run. Would be a shame to win one and then be the bride’s maid for the next few seasons. Call it greedy, and I will certainly forever be happy with the 2008 squad but one more would be golden and to me would legitimize them as a dynasty.
Posted: 03:50 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Griffin
I like this move, but the Phils now have $120 in guaranteed money for 2011 not counting arbitration raises for Vic and Ruiz again.
I hope I am wrong, but I just don’t see how the Phils are going to be able to re-sign Werth.
Also, I don’t see how signing Blanton to a market value contract makes dealing Cliff Lee (and his below market value contract) any less excusable.
Posted: 03:56 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova
Great Deal!
I will be surprised to see them sign Vic and Ruiz to long term deals at this point. they have control of them for next year and the year after for Ruiz. Maybe Vic for a 3-4 year deal at about 4.5 a year that would be worth it.
Posted: 03:57 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Because they resigned Blanton for 3 years below market value when you were only getting one year of Lee below value.
Posted: 03:58 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Leonard Skinnard
A nice deal for a decent pitcher. He’s an every other year kind of guy.
Posted: 03:59 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova
Griffin
Cliff was not going to sign here for anything lest than 20+mil a year. That is way too much for him. we got Roy a much more consistent and better track record pitcher for the next 4 years.
Getting rid of Lee was about refilling the Pharm!
Posted: 03:59 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Someone really needs to start the whole push to lock up Werth…NOW…while he still might take a discount to play for a winner for the next 4 seasons or so..
Anybody know whether Jayson has publicly stated if he would negotiate or not once the season starts??
Posted: 03:59 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
I could see Ruiz getting signed to a multi year deal simply because they have no other options at catcher waiting in the wings. With Victorino, they have Tyson Giles waiting to play everyday or Brown. But for my money. Giles is Victorino’s replacement, Brown replaces Ibanez and Werth get’s resigned.
Posted: 04:01 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
I have not heard Werth say anything other than that he wants to stay here. He fits here, he get’s it. He is a Philly guy and the fans love him. I think he would sign a deal slightly below market value. But I don’t think he will be giving out any big discounts. Much like Lee, when his contract runs out it will be his first opportunity to sign a deal that sets him and his family up for life. He has every right to try and get as much money as he can.
Posted: 04:04 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
That’s what I’m thinking, Ed..
And if Gillies isn’t ready….then Werth can play center for awhile.
Posted: 04:04 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Griffin
My problem with the Lee deal was not just that the Phillies were saying “we’re good enough to win the WS without Lee in 2010, so let’s rebuild the farm” but also WHO the Phils got back for him. 3 middling prospects was not enough and no one outside of this blog thinks the Phils did well in that deal.
But enough about that already. Blanton’s increased K rate and his age (29) make this a solid signing.
Posted: 04:06 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
As I said in the other thread this makes the Lee deal more understandable. nice deal for both sides. I’d go after Werth now as well. Look for Ibanez to be dealt next year to make room for Brown and free up $$$ for Werth. Pieces falling together perfectly.
Posted: 04:07 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Kevin from Macho Row
Really I do not see how anyone can be too upset with this one. I’ve always been a fan of Blanton though so perhaps I am biased. I think it’s time to let go of all the Cliff Lee discussion personally.
Posted: 04:08 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Ed R.
Griffin I hear what you are saying, but does anyone ever really know what you are getting in prospects until they get their chance to prove it? Drabek could be an ace or a dud, same with Aumonte. You never really know.
Did the Phillies get less for Lee than they should have? Absolutely. But I don’t think they got quarters on the dollar either.
Posted: 04:11 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Griffin
I still think the Phils may sign another starter for very cheap (Braden Looper?) as Moyer/Kendrick insurance. As of now, they only have one lefty in the pen. I wouldn’t mind them going with a cheap lefty from the minors like Bastardo or Escalona.
Posted: 04:11 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Don M
If the Phillies gave up “junk” to get Lee from Cleveland
and the Mariners gave up “junk” to get Lee from the Phillies
that tells me that Lee’s value was never very high…
And Aumount and Gillies aren’t “junk” prospects.. . not Randy Johnson and Ichiro, but they’ll both play in the Majors
Posted: 04:21 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 JeffR
I don’t have a problem with this deal, but how is it “below market value”? You’re saying that if Blanton were a free agent this minute other teams would offer him more or even the same? I don’t think so. Piniero only got 2/16 coming off a better year than Blanton.
Posted: 04:43 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
The Phillies got for Lee what they could….3 decent prospects…that will start the year at AA…and could be in the majors by 2011 or 2012..
I’d much rather have them than the 2 draft picks they would have gotten for Lee after this year.
Posted: 04:46 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P
Nice signing… Blanton is an innings eater and a guy we need on this staff (because of question marks in our bullpen). You can count on him for 200+ innings and those types of pitchers are worth their weight in gold. Looking at comparable situations, I thought that his arbitration price was wayy high- something just didn’t add up. I honestly think that he just wanted to sit down and talk. In the end, we paid below our offer and that tells me that Joe really wanted to be here. It was never about the money, it was about asking the team to commit to keeping him around. And here’s the best part – he’s only going to get better working with Halladay.
Posted: 04:52 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Below market…because Blanton’s price could very well have been $10 mil….say next year or the following..
Let’s say this went to arbitration and the Phillies won at 7.5….and Blanton has a typical…if not slightly better Blanton-type year….13-15 wins and an ERA of 4….
Going into free agency next off-season…he very well could have been looking at a multi-year deal in the neighborhood of 10 mil per season…given his age 29 (30 next off season)…and his track record over the past few season..
Posted: 04:53 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 1993 vs 2009
I’m over the Cliff Lee screw-up. Although no one would’ve cared had we won the WS last year. Time to move on. Not a bad deal overall. Pray for the local Popeyes’ and the stray animals. Big Joe’s hungry and he’s got plenty of dough to burn. Feed meeeeeeeeeeee I’m open!
Posted: 04:57 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Dudley Monk
The best is yet to come with Big Joe. He will learn a lot from Roy Halladay and we will see him enter his prime with eclat and elan.
Posted: 05:11 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 beta sigma shag
I agree defitaly below market value for three years. Instead of paying him 7.5 and losing him after next year, where he would get around 10 million so that would 4 million saved in two years. I like this this deal, it is nice to have 4 above average pitcher locked up for two or three years. Hamels signed for 3 years last off season right? so ’10 ’11 ’12 with Doc, Hamels, Big Joe, and JA good solid rotation
Posted: 06:05 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 George
A good deal. The contract is back loaded, but not beyond what inflation and future free agent contracts could bring. He actually gets less this year than the Phils initially offered, and his salary for next year is already paid by Moyer coming off the books. Blanton is in his prime, too, not on the down slope. He might improve over the next few years. His ERA could drop below four.
I really like having a set rotation for the next few years. No number five, but those guys are the ones you get cheap.
Posted: 06:21 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Wow. Nice signing. Good price. Slowly but surely, RAJ is getting some real cost certainty on the pitching side. I really think the best of Blanton is ahead of us. Way to go Ruben.
The Dipsy
Posted: 06:21 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Skeptic
Its hard to believe the outpouring of love for this move. I’d rather have Lee for $14 million a year for 3 years and pay little to nothing for our 5th starter, even if it meant not being able to sign a position player or two cause of the money.
Blanton’s won 54% of his games and his ERA is over 4 and he hasn’t shown much improvement in his numbers since he was a rookie. That’s basically who he is. That’s worth $8 mil a year?
On a scale of 1-10, I give this move a 4. I’m not over losing Lee.
Posted: 06:45 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 beta sigma shag
Skeptic you are way off base, you want to have 1/6 of your payroll tied up with two pitchers, one who was sent down to the minors 3 years ago and was what 9-7 with the Indians, in a division which is argualbly the worst division in baseball. And what makes you think Lee would sign for 14 million. I bet my house that he will get at least 20 million after this year. And you want to become the Giants or Braves with a great pitching with a sub 3 era and a runs scored of 2 per game. That is a great idea. To pay your #3 avg. 8 million for three years is a steal. And to have you rotation set for 3 years show stability.
For all those people who complain about Hamels, ’09 might have saved the Philliles a few million dollars. Because maybe now you can sign him to another contract after 2011 for 12-14 million instead of 16-18 million. ( there is some sarcasim it that comment)
And to answer you question he has improved his K/9 ratio and pitches 200+ innings a year and keeps you in most of his games he starts, and YES, compared to other out there $8 million will be under what he is worth at the end of this contract, He is only 29 years old.
And this thread was going so nicely, now some idiot had to ruin it with stupid assinine comments
Posted: 07:32 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 MikeB.
Good signing of a steady, dependable and durable workhorse of a pitcher.
Posted: 08:13 PM on January 21, 2010
Posts: 0 Still Skeptical
whoa, with the hostility! i’d much rather pay lee more than pay blanton, a fifth starter, and a position player. instead of comparing that idea to the giants or braves who can’t hit, i think its more like the yankees – they won with sabbathia, burnett, and petitte. halladay, lee, hamels would be even better than that. and i’d put our bats up against anybody else in mlb.
i don’t care that lee was in the minors a few years ago. he looked pretty damn good when he won the cy young in cleveland and even better when he put our rotation on his back and carried us into and through the playoffs. oh and he can also do that thing that blanton is known for – eating innings – except he does it better and with less runs allowed.
i don’t hate blanton, i really don’t. $8m just seems like a lot – maybe i’m off-base with that… but i’d double it and take lee. it wouldn’t hurt the phils to spend a little more $ after selling out cbp 81 times last year.
Posted: 11:07 PM on January 21, 2010