Phillies Sign Baez for $5.25 Million
Posted by Amanda Orr, Tue, January 05, 2010 01:01 PM | Comments: 170
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Originally published on Dec. 31, 2009 @ 1:38 pm.
The “mystery reliever” has been revealed. According to Jon Heyman (via Twitter), the Phillies are aggressively going after Danys Baez, and have agreed to sign the right-hander to a two-year deal.
The 32-year old had a 4.02 ERA in 71.2 innings with the Baltimore Orioles last year.
The Phillies also signed Tagg Bozied. Bozied spent last season with the Pittsburgh Pirates’ Triple-A club, where he batted .288 in 240 plate appearances. Bozied, 30, is a corner outfielder and first baseman.
Bozied was a big-time power prospect for the San Diego Padres. However, he tore a tendon in his knee while celebrating a walk-off home run in 2004.
UPDATE (1:03 pm 1/5/09): Baez has signed for $5.25 million over two years, according to multiple sources. Not a bad figure for a decent relief pitcher.
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Cmon Chuck. You know how I feel about the trade. I never busted on the prospects. My feeling is that in this instance, as in life, some things you just have to worry about LATER. I would have worried about what to do with the team after the big run in 2010. Remember too, that if things were not working out for the Phils by the trade deadline they could have traded Lee and gotten close to what they did from the Mariners. Look at it this way, and this is a rough analogy: You’re out on a Tuesday night and you have a big presentation or whatever at work on Wednesday morning. You meet the best looking girl ever and you’re having a great time. You got a sweet buzz going and she wants to go home with you. Do you say “I can’t, I gotta big presentation at work tomorrow?” No. You worry about the presentation in the fog of the massive hangover you have the next morning. The presentation may be terrible but you’ll forever have the memory of the big trophy buck you bagged the night before. And guess what else? When your boss asked you what happened you can tell him the truth and I’d bet he’d understand. Pictures would help.
The Dipsy
Posted: 11:21 AM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Dipsy…
I hear ya’…I totally get the fascination with having BOTH of them on the team….
When I first thought about it…after the trade was announced….I was as disappointed as anyone on here…I LOVED what Cliff Lee did for this team….this CITY….in a very short space of time..
Cliff Lee will forever be part of Phillies lore..no one will forget what the guy did and what he gave us…NO ONE.
But the more I understood what happened…and the more I thought about the OVERALL health of the team…and that includes BEYOND this year…the more I realized that this deal had to be done…(or at least some kind of deal)
Ok…maybe $9 Million over budget isn’t that big of a deal…except that if you go over that amount this year…it just opens the door to over next year…at a bigger amount…and year after year…the precedent will be set…
Next thing you know…tickets…nosebleeds…are totally unaffordable for most fans…and we start looking like the Yankees and Red Sox. Is THAT what you want??
By the way…your analogy is pretty funny..
Posted: 11:45 AM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 Georgie
Dips, you may have a little problem with that story if your boss happens to be FEMALE. You and your dirty little pictures would end up on the hood of HER car like a trophy buck.
Posted: 01:33 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Georgie – Just havin a little fun with Chuck. No offense intended.
The Dipsy
Posted: 01:57 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Can someone PLEASE find out how much this guy costs? AMANDA! Where are these tweeting reporters when we really need them? I’d even take a Ken Rosenthal report right now. It would be dead wrong, of course, but it would be something.
The Dipsy
Posted: 02:09 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 130 Amanda Orr
The last I saw:
“The Phillies agreed to sign Danys Baez to a two-year deal worth an undisclosed amount. ”
He takes his physical next week. We’ll probably find out when it’s official.
Posted: 02:15 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 j reed
Dipsy – As to Saunders, yeah that’s idea to flip him for either a top tier starter to replace Drabek or perhaps a top tier third basemen prospect or infielder or catcher. To me the trio of blah we got only has value, currently that is, as a package. Even in this package, we should have dropped a pitcher (who have the worst failure rates of any prospect esp at the 2nd tier) and gotten a 2nd tier catcher.
Posted: 03:43 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Not if his boss was the girl? Just messin.
Posted: 04:35 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
FEMALE, sorry.
Posted: 04:35 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
If you look at Gillies numbers, they’re great. The guy hit .341 for god’s sake. 44 SB and a .430 OBP. I mean, I don’t care what league you’re in, those are numbers. And Chuck, I love my analogy, too. Thanks. I think it is spot on! As a man, you’ve been there (I hope). Regret is a horrible thing to have to love with. Ladies, (Georgie, Philsgurl, Amanda) perhaps you have been there, too. In an inverted way, of course.
The Dipsy
Posted: 06:13 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
I was wondering when one of the woman on here was gonna say something about the analogy, Dipsy….and I’m not surprised it was Georgie….
And Georgie….I have to say I agree with you…but I also know Dipsy was kidding and messing around….as he is sooo good at doing.
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So Dipsy…seriously….this sudden “fascination” with Gillies’ numbers…what are you sayin’, man…??
I mean….think about it…this COULD translate into us all forgetting about Cliff Lee, huh?? Not tryin to jump the gun…but…like I have been saying…if just ONE of these three prospects pans out….then the trade is successful
Posted: 06:23 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
When I heard that Lee got traded for the prospects, I looked up their stats and saw Gillies’ #s. I know its hard to get excited about a guy that in high A ball but from everything I’ve read, the guy can hit, run, and is a gamer. He’s deaf, too…for what thats worth. I would love too see one of these guys pan out. Whether it be Gillies or one of the pitchers. If you are trying to get me to swing my position on the trade (which is fine), I can’t. At this point, when its all over but the cryin, all you can do put some in hope into what the Phils got back. The trade has been made and I am at peace with it. Until we get in the Series and we have no 3rd starter to pitch. The I’ll be pissed off all over again. You better watch the Braves’ starters, i’ll tell you that much. Jurrjens is a flat out animal.
The Dipsy
Posted: 06:32 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Yeah… the Brave scare me a bit…they are DEFINITELY an improved team.
As far as the third starter… this is the way I see it…Halladay is a given…Hamels is improved….and Happ is actually used as a starter this time in the series….something that probably SHOULD have happened this past year…but I understand why Cholly put him in the pen…to have that left-hander..
I just think Happ is a starter…and excels in that role..I look for BIG things from him this year..
Posted: 09:13 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Check out what Rube could’ve garnered from tha Angels:
Burgess(contributor day 1, club control for 5 years)
Bourajals(sp?) excellent CF prospect.
2 of their 5 2-3 major league starter prospects not including Reckling.
which is better? A deal with no help until 2012 at least or a deal with 2010+ help, 2011 help and maybe more?
Posted: 10:59 PM on January 2, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Joe – Your source, please?
The Dipsy
Posted: 10:01 AM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Dipsy, no source, but the only chips really not on the table for the Angels were Saunders and Aybar(sp). I’m just thinking out loud because the Phillies never talked to any other team besides the MAriners.
Posted: 12:11 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 Geoff
IF that was true then they would have done it.
If there was a better deal out there for Lee they would have made it. Hes not an IDIOT. Hes not going to intentionally make a worse deal for some reason. People just need to realize that the guy has no trade value until he brings his contract demands down.
Posted: 12:14 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Geoff, Rube didn’t talk to anyone else. From all the write-ups it’s clear it was Seattle or no one. Why not contact the Angels after the Mariners offerred Saunders, Aumont and Ramirez? Other than not keeping Lee in the first place that’s what bothersme the most. I’m sure the Angels didn’t want Lee going to the Mariners.
I agree Rube’s not an idiot, but he has demonstrated a lack of patience many, many times. Why not make the call to the Angels? Worst case they say no.
Posted: 12:23 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
If he’s demonstrated such a “lack of patience many, many times,” then why did he T A KE H I S T I M E with getting either Lee or Halladay last July??
If he was so impatient…he would have traded away EVERYTHING for Halladay….like Toronto wanted him to do..
Give the guy some credit, for God’s sake!!
Posted: 01:15 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Geoff – Lets say that Ruben talked to everyone in the league and Seattle’s offer was the best. If I’m Ruben I say, “No, thanks” and hold on to Lee a while. There is something VERY screwy that we don’t know about this deal that made it go down the way it did. When Ruben writes his memoirs maybe we’ll find out. I think the million dollar question is “Why didn’t Ruben just hold on to Lee and trade him later?” There is no way that we would have gotten to April 1 without Ruben getting a much better offer from another team. Ruben is a good GM. This move was stupid.
The Dipsy
Posted: 01:19 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
But I think I know the answer. If you make the Halladay trade and then hold a Lee sweepstakes for the highest bidder, all of Philly goes nuts on Ruben during the whole process, complete with death threats. I think by giving the illusion that the Halladay was somehow contingent on the Lee deal, RAJ figures it would take most of the sting out of it from a P.R. perspective. He’s probably right. But is that a reason to take a lot less value for Lee that if he would have done it differently? Who knows. Maybe I’m belabouring the obvious here and if I am I apologize.
The Dipsy
Posted: 01:26 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Chuck, many, many times is not ALL the time.
Over Paid Ibanez to lock him in early.
Two year deal on Moyer for fear he would go somewhere else.
3/18 for Polanco with 5-6 3b choices out there.
Halladay not going anywhere fast, Phils give up what Tpranto basically wanted last year.
1st offer for Lee, done deal.
2 year x deal for Baez with Park still on the market.
Castro 750K when noone else intersted.
Posted: 01:31 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Not a bad point, Dipsy….he HAD to tie the whole thing together…to make it seem as if it was a 4 team deal….when in fact, it was THREE SEPARATE DEALS!!
Thing is…most fans have figured it out by now….but the “sting” is indeed less.
Posted: 01:32 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 ashmidt
the dipsy, YOU ARE THE MAN. i think bill conlin said that it is more then a coincidence that pat gillick was the g.m. for all 3 teams involved.
Posted: 01:33 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Dipsy, I don’t think Rube is dumb enough to trade Lee simply because of the fans perception. That would be assanine. You do not let fans run your clu. I have to think it was something else.
Is there something we’re, I’m, missing about Lee that he goes cheap all the time?
Posted: 01:34 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Yeah, but RAJ knew he had to SELL the idea to the fanbase….cause he knew there would be a revolt….
It really has nothing to do with the fans “running the club.”
Posted: 02:21 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
I’m not a rocket scientist, and there are a lot of smart Phils fans on here so, why the hell didn’t we figure this out before? And Joe, to answer your question, if I’m RAJ and I am in this “mode” I speak of, I would probably make the deal he did, because its not horrifying, as opposed to going through the equivalent of the Bataan Death March that would have been the process of waiting for the “best” deal.
The Dipsy
Posted: 02:28 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Chuck, I just don’t think the fans are that stupid. Also, it would only take an hour ot two to see if the Angels were interested in upgrading while preventing the Mariners from upgrading. Seems the Phillies just didn’t have “a good book” on the Angels prospects so they went with the “known”.
Posted: 02:29 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Dipsy,
I agree with “not waiting” for the best deal. The Halladay signing could’ve waited 24 hours to scope the Angels, IMO. Who leaked it anyway? The Mariners? If they did, escellent move to make the Phillies pull the trigger quicker.
One thing I just thought of was maybe Rube feared contacting the Angels because they may have gotten back in touch with the Jays. I just think Angels had a need and prospects/mlb players superior to the MAriners.
Posted: 02:32 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
Agreed Joe. But you’re right. If you want Halladay for 4 years and know that you can’t keep Lee in the process, you can’t contact the Angels and risk blowing the whole thing up.
The Dipsy
Posted: 02:34 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
I think that’s what probably precipitated staying with Seattle.
It’s over now and we’ll just have to accept the fact that Lee will replace Pettite in 2011.
We have to get back to the WS this season.
Posted: 02:39 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Still….as I’ve said WAY to many times….if just ONE of these three prospects works out…then the trade is at least successful enough to say it wasn’t a failure (if that makes any sense)..
And Dipsy has already crowned Tyson Gillies as the next Philly sports hero….so there you go!!
Posted: 02:56 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Chuck,
Makes sense. I actually have high hopes for Aumont. I like Saunders, but will wait and see how Gillies does at Reading.
Posted: 03:02 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Aumont seems like he could be a stud in the back end of the bullpen..I have high hopes as well.
And I’ve heard…but not sure what it’s based on…that Ramirez was actually necessary to be in the deal in order for it to be made..heard that on the radio the day after the trade was announced, but I forget who said it.
Posted: 05:02 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 psujoe
Ramirez has nasty stuff by all accounts. Appareantly that hitters league got to his head.
Posted: 06:50 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 j reed
psujoe – doesn’t getting back to the WS series this year present the same possible stituation that I think you fear with Lee going to the yankees in so far as the Red Sox will have Lackey, Lester and Beckett. Granted CC, Lee, Burnett is might be more fearsome because of the lefties but, Beckett and Lackey (which everone you’d substitute for Burnett in the comparsion) are better than Burnett.
Glad I’m not a football fan. Fugly game by the Beagles
Posted: 07:23 PM on January 3, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
RAJ – Great sign.
The Dipsy
Posted: 01:13 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 Chuck
Wow….The Dipsy approves!!
Posted: 02:00 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 Havoc
Offtopic, but the rumor is Beltre turned down a three year 24million dollar deal from the Phils which is right about what I wanted them to pay for him. If that’s the case then it makes the Polanco move make sense. If you take Beltre & Figgins out of the mix Polanco is the only one who helps improve the team.
Baez is a good signing, looks like the team is all but set. Seems like the Phils should have enough cash still to sign Eyre or another potential starter within the budget. I wonder if they could convince Wang to sign a cheap deal since he’s still hurt and hasn’t been getting much interest. Would be a nice gamble if the price is right.
Posted: 02:02 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 BurrGundy
I would like to see that PHils pursue Mike MacDougal to go with Baez. Both are groundball pitchers with closers experience. Both will be 33, which is a good age for a reliever because they are accustomed to the pressure of the position and know how to get prepared to pitch every day. WE NEED A GOOD, EXPERIENCED BULLPEN. We could add one of our minor league lefties to round things out.
Posted: 02:08 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 bebopdeluxe
We will already have at least 5 experienced bullpen guys – Lidge, Madson, Romero, Baez and Durbin…if we can re-sign Eyre, we only have room for one more guy (I would guess either Bastardo or Mathieson) – and that assumes that Moyer is the 5th starter. If you want to take a flyer on a reclamation project (like Sheets or Wang) to potentially upgrade the 5th spot in the rotation, then Moyer either has to be cut, put on the DL or go to the pen as a long-guy…
And if Moyer goes to the ‘pen, your entire bullpen is made up of vets over the age of 30…which is not exactly ideal. I would love for Bastardo or Mathieson to make the big club, but if they sign Eyre, that only happens if Moyer is in the rotation or released.
Posted: 02:43 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 BurrGundy
Seems like it is bad judgement to coax a pitcher to pitch despite the fact he would make only about $1.5 million. Eyre wants to retire. I seriously doubt that his heart is into pitching. Let him get a job in the “REAL” world. He’s made a ton of money compared to average folk being a mediocre pitcher in the majors. He should enjoy his family.
Posted: 02:54 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
I disagree. I think Eyre wants to pitch. Why would a still effective LOOGY ever wanna retire from baseball, especially if he plays for the Phils. The Phils will give it up. Havoc – I do not believe that rumor about Beltre. We’ll see how much he signs for now. If he’s not careful he may fall prey to the “Abreu/Lohse Squeeze”.
The Dipsy
Posted: 03:19 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 Don M
Anyone know what the last 4 comments were on this website?
Posted: 03:25 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 575 Brian Michael
What do you mean?
Posted: 03:39 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 PhxPhilly
Not too high but I was hoping they could get him for $4M total. That’s more than we paid Park last year (assuming he did not meet any incentives).
I would like to sign Bastista to a Minor League deal and Eyre to $1M deal. Give Herndon first shot at the last spot. Leave Kendrick and Bastardo as starters in the minors with Mathieson closing.
Posted: 03:42 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 Don M
There used to be that Last 4 Comments section on the left of the screen.. and everyone keeps mentioning that its not there anymore, but nobody knows what happened to it
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Eyre would rather retire and spend time with his kids than play for $1 M …. which is why there is an issue and Eyre isn’t under contract right now
Phillies need to make it worth his while for him to pass up retirement, not sure what the number is but my guess is $3-4 and thats more than the Phillies want to pay him
Posted: 04:04 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
If healthy, Scott Eyre should, and will, get 1.5m from the Phils, Thats what he’s worth. Don…would you wanna retire if you were Scott Eyre? He’s got the greatest job in the world. And if he gets 3m from anyone, I will run naked up and down Cottman avenue.
The Dipsy
Posted: 04:08 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 mikemike
I CAN’T understand why no condrey, I thought he pitched better than durbin last year.
Posted: 04:27 PM on January 5, 2010
Posts: 0 Don M
I liked Condrey alot .. did everything asked of him..
Im not Scott Eyre and I don’t have little kids that i’m away from for half the year … so maybe $1.5 M isn’t enough for him
which is fine.. he said he would either play for the Phillies, or retire
Phillies won’t pay $3 + to everyone in their bullpen.. which is why no Eyre and Park for next season
Posted: 04:37 PM on January 5, 2010