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Roy Halladay, when asked the same question, said “Santana” too… No wonder why people hate the Mets….

Were you expecting Wright to say the Mets would finish last in the NL East? It’s almost like this is the Philly version of the New York Post.

Halladay > Santana

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/2431/santana-not-conceding-to-halladay-yet

No offense Steve but you are wrong, and it’s really not even that close. They are both great pitchers, both Cy Young pitchers, probably both HOFer’s when its all said and done but Santana had the luxury of pitching in one of the best pitchers parks in all of baseball while he was in Minnesota, facing a water down division that featured one, possibly two good teams a year in the White Sox and the Indians(sometimes). He also ran up some nice numbers against the Royals, and even the Tigers weren’t that great minus 2006.

Meanwhile Halladay pitched great baseball in a division that routinely had the top two offenses in all of baseball in Boston and New York and he owned them both. Look at his record vs those teams, its so good it’s almost to the point of ridiculous. Halladay may not be as flashy as Santana, he certainly isn’t the power pitcher that Santana is but he gets the job done. Halladay is the ultimate craftsmen. You need someone to win you a big game, call on Doc. You need someone to end a losing streak, call on Doc. You want someone to go the distance and kiss babies foreheads in the dugout during games, call Doc. Ok I made the last part up but you get the picture.

Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. Put him in a park like San Fran, or San Diego and the guy would put up numbers that would make the Freak look like an average Joe.

the rivalry is dead the mets are a scond tier team. Wait for the nats to get good thats a better natural rivalry and they may be good the mets wont be any time in the near future. Nit until the get a GM and coach.

Dodgers our rivals?

Well kinda, considering we did play them 2 years in a row in the NLCS and everything. Should a 3rd straight Phillies/Dodgers NLCS occur this year, then that definitely would make them one of our most notable rivals in a long time.

Hopefully Halladay can own the NL like Santana does. I can’t blame JS for answering himself. He is quite a beast.

I like Santana’s confidence, but I also like Halladay’s modesty in naming several pitchers as possible “bests.” It’s not the “approach” to a question that matters, anyway. It’s the results.

Wright’s statement shouldn’t even matter. Every player expects his team to do well, or they’d be demanding trades all the time.

Let’s just concentrate on the Phils. So far, things look good. I hope things stay good.

New York and Philly hate each other so the rivalry isn’t dead it’s just dormant at this meoment. Mets don’t have a good enough rotation at this point. The team I’d keep an eye on is the Braves. great rotation and they have the young talent to pull off a trade for Adrian Gonzalez if it’s close at the deadline.

they are both among the BEST PITCHERS IN ALL OF BASEBALL . . . with CC Sabathia, Tim Lincecum thrown into the arguement as well

close 2nd has Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke, Dan Haren…. Cliff Lee, Josh Johnson, Chris Carpenter,

probably leaving some guys out.. of the top 10 . . . but then you have John Lackey, Josh Beckett, Cole Hamels, Mark Buerhle, . . . damn there are a lot of good pitchers in baseball

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I can’t believe that Charlie said flat out that POLANCO IS A BETTER PLAYER THAN FELIZ

Don,
Greinke and King Felix second tier? No way. Those were the two best pitchers in the AL last year….Hernandez doesn’t get a lot of pub out there in Seattle, but he’s a beast. I would take Greinke and Hernandez right now over CC. (Although, you can’t really go wrong with any of them)

I would put Greinke, Felix, CC, Halladay, Lincecum, and Santana (if he’s healthy) in the first tier.

I totally agree about Hamels and his innings increase, though. I think he’ll have a good season.

Except I was alarmed to read this morning that Hamels said he was taking off-season workout advice from Mark Prior!!!!!

that send chills down my spine.

Grienke and Felix are 2nd tier, along with Lee and a few others because they don’t have years of consistency. If you could sign someone to a 3 yr deal today, it would be Halladay, Santana, Linecum, and Sabbathia (in whatever order you chose).

Almost anyone else in Hamels position would have performed the same way, said the same things. You don’t nail the org for sending you out on promos, don’t admit weakness or injury. You suck it up, say it was your fault, but you fixed it and are ready to go this year. I think Hamels is actually treating it in a mature manner, instead of throwing the team under the bus.

yea, fa sho .. B fo!!!

I thought all along that it was him just trying to take blame for something that wasn’t really his fault

his body never had a chance to pitch that much, so he didn’t know how it would respond. . . “The Verducci Effect”
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/02/16/verducci.effect/index.html

on his list last year.. Hamels, Mike Pelfrey, Chad Billingsley, John Danks- White Sox,

but he also had Lincecum, Clayton Kershaw, and Jair Jurrjens on the list too and they all pitched well last year

Don M for President ? ? ? …this is the highest my comment-Approval Ratings have been in years!

Mark Prior’s first suggestion – don’t pitch for Dusty Baker.

On the Met’s rivalry, I don’t hate NY, or even Mets fans (come pretty close to hating Yankees fans). I hope it is a back and forth battle all year, comes down to the last week of the season (well, maybe mid Sept, then the Phils take it away). I loved it when Rollins pronounced us the team to beat, and would think that is what any fan wants to hear from their team (not sure I’d watch a game if the Phils said the Braves looked improved, we’re just playing for the wild card).

I’ve been to several games in Boston, Stl, and Yankee stadium. All are great atmospheres, but something special happens when the rivals to town. A few more drunks/fights, but for the most part it is good natured enthusiasm. CBP steps it up a notch when the Mets come to town, not quite where the other three are yet (I imagine the intensity is also there when Stl goes to Chi, or Giants/Dodgers). It doesn’t translate as well on TV, but when you are at the stadium, nothing beats playing a rival.

Wow Hamels spoke to Lefty and Cliff Lee about a cutter….I guess he IS Serious .

Hamels WANTS to correct last season…anyone that actually thinks he’s “Hollywooding” it with he attitude towards preparing for this year doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Cy Young contender?? Maybe..but not this year..but I can see it at some point, for sure.

Hamels only works quickly when its brought to his attention that he’s working slowly . . . they talk about it all the time

When he starts working slowly and leaving the channgeup high in the zone.. that’s when Charlie takes the ball

I’ve never really watched the specifics of Halladay to see how he works.. I usually just watch him dominate in the manner that Clemens did when he was younger

I love reading these articles about the Mets talking. In reality what those guys said really wasn’t bragging or anything like that, but if I were the Mets I would just shut my mouth and say all the right things and try to keep a low profile and let the field do the talking. Talking about winning on a team that has done the exact opposite is just something that shouldn’t even be mentioned.

Just seems like its the same old Mets. Nothings wrong with their team and they have no clue why they don’t win. Go figure that logic.

Working quickly = more run support? Tell that to Moyer, the slowest worker in 2008 and the winningest pitcher.

You said Cole did the right thing. LOL. Was there any other choice. He makes millions. I work in sales. My sales were bad last month. My manager took my head off. I guess I could of stayed home and cried but I got my butt back out there to make money for my family. 75,000 a year is alot less the princess makes.

Wait, so now we’re critical because he did his job this offseason??

Give him props for being amazing in 2008 . . .trying his best in 2009 . . .and preparing himself as much as possible for 2010

nobody is trying to give him a medal for hard work in the offseason, but maybe it will help stop people from trying to trade him and stuff…

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players routinely say that they are much more into the flow of the game when there isn’t 30 seconds between each pitch . . .one of the reasons they loved pitching behind that guy that isn’t here anymore (No, not Brett Myers.. the other one. No, not Clay Condrey, Park, or Eyre . .the OTHER guy, Travis Lee’s cousin)

Hamels is at his best when he gets the ball, gets the sign, and throws . . .let the catcher call the game . . you just pitch.

Jeff, go away. If you want Hamels’ money, go pitch in the majors, don’t whine about someone else. I personally don’t give a rat’s @$$ what ANY salesmen thinks, because they’re in such a twisted profession. It was the SALESpeople hyping bogus mortgages and stock portfolios that tanked the economy in the first place.

So you had to work hard? Well, I guess it IS hard to convince people to buy things they probably don’t need, and definitely can’t afford.

Jeff, mikemike and Just Crushed are all related somehow… all complainers and crybabies that NEVER have anything good to say about the Phillies.

Are the above comments even real ??

Are people really, seriously fighting on a blog?