The Dip: Live and Let Dye Play

Posted by The Dipsy, Sat, February 20, 2010 01:28 PM | Comments: 84
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Jermaine DyeJudging from the posts of the last few days, it appears that Philly fans don’t care much for Johnny Damon. In that case, perhaps Jermaine Dye would be more your cup of tea. It seems that ever since the economy took a header two years ago, there always seems to be a few intriguing stragglers still hanging around jobless at the start of Spring Training. This year is no exception and one of those guys working out in his basement as I write this is Jermaine Dye. While Dye is getting a little long in the tooth (turned 36 last month) he can still contribute a good amount of offense to any team he joins. The great thing about a guy like Dye right now is that he knows his best days are behind but he can still play. And if he has any competitive fire in him, he wants to prove it. And he’s sweating. Hey may get a nice multi-year contract befitting of what he feels he’s worth – or he may not. Given that it’s February 20, I don’t think it would hurt if RAJ gave Dye’s people a call to find out just what’s going on over there.

Dye is a good hitter. Through a full season he will probably give you at least 25/85/.270 (I don’t do OPS). If the Phillies express interest, perhaps they could remind Dye that he is, in fact, not signed and that maybe he should consider signing on with a probable World Series contender. Ruben could promise him 350-400 ABs and remind him that he could always try for another contract next year while also making mention of the fact that the Phillies may have a vacancy in right field. Ruben could tell him to take the $3.5m he’d be offering and to jump on board with a winner. And Dye might.

Why would the Phils do it, though? Well, here are reasons.

Dye is a righty and has played every outfield position in his career. Charlie could rotate him through the outfield, giving him two starts a week as well as every game against a tough lefty. Maybe, just maybe, if you tossed him a first baseman’s mitt he could learn how to use it. This would make the lineup much tougher against left handed pitchers.

In a season that the Phils could go to the Series, being able to have the depth to cover for a big outfield injury would be sweet. I am aware that Francisco is on the team but he’s no Jermaine Dye. Francisco will get his spot starts, lots of pinch hitting duty, as well as pinch running and defensive replacement assignments.

Then, there is the Jayson Werth issue. If for some unknown reason, the Phils are looking to trade Werth at some point, they’ll already have his replacement on the roster. I don’t care about the at bats Ross Gload is going to miss out on. He’s just another lefty on a team full of them.

In summation, Jermaine Dye may be a “distressed asset” right now – perhaps ripe for the picking at a low price, if offered by the right team, presenting the right situation. My gosh, I think I just described the Phillies. Hey, it doesn’t hurt to pick up the phone.

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  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Hey Bob – dbag – Dye comes, Dobbs goes. Is that good enough for you, sh@tstain? Now, since you’re from Bucks County, go put your teeth back in your head, grab your banjo, and drive them cars down t’Antry.

    P.S. You sure do got a purdy mouth.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chris L

    Classic Preferred Bench:

    LH and RH infielder (one corner and one middle)
    LH and RH outfielder (one center and one corner)

    What the Phillies have currently:

    Dobbs and Castro
    Gload and Francisco

    sure, you might ask for more power from the bench but otherwise RAJ has done a good job of positioning the bench for flexibility and consistent production. On top of that, Dobbs can play a passable LF and Gload has 1b experience. Dye would destroy the balance.

    Chuck’s right, if a FA move is needed than it’s a bullpen spot but to tell you the truth, I’d rather give the young guys a chance and build them up as trade bait in July if needed.

    Any true upgrades would only occur by trade at this point. Maybe Smoltz joining but he wants more than he’s worth and would probably be better for him and his new team to join in late June and a fresher arm.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Bob – Gload is LHed. Read your program.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Do we need Dobbs AND Gload??, you ask…..oh, I don’t know..

    Let me think about it. I’ve got someplace to go. I’ll comment later.

  • Posts: 0 Blaise

    I’d rather have Bruntlett than Castro.

  • Posts: 0 Blaise

    Bruntlett is the only guy on the team who can turn an efficient triple play. I bet Castro can’t do that.

  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    I love the bench this year as much as I hated it last year. Besides Castro the Phils signed a couple of other utility guys to minor league contracts. Should be an interesting Spring. the one thing I wish they had was a RH hitting backup 1st baseman to spell Howard 8-10 games against lefties. Other than that it sets up nice.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I think you could make an argument for keeping eilther Dobbs OR Gload…BUT….having both does give you more flexibility in the field. Dobbs can play third, left and maybe first (although he sucks there).

    Gload can play the outfield and first (probably first better than Dobbs)..

    I think because Dobbs can play third….that spells either Polanco or Chase (because Polanco can play second)….and it keeps a good bat in the lineup (Castro isn’t a good bat).

  • Posts: 0 Bobby D

    I like the bench this year. Like everyone else, I think power is something to be desired there but between the Big Piece, Werth and Chase I think our line-up has enough pop just as it did last year. Power off the bench is feast or famine (case in point, Stairs last year). Schneider is a DRAMATIC upgrade over what we’ve been used to. I can’t recall a time in recent history where they’ve been deep at catcher. If Chooch takes his annual mid-July DL stint, we won’t be hurt too badly behind the plate. Castro/ Bruntlett is a toss up but there’s certainly no drop off in the change. Ross Gload’s got some pop and plenty of NL East experience which adds to his value in terms of facing bullpen guys and knowing tendencies. Plus his name is awesome. Francisco is a question mark but I saw upside to his game in the small sample size we got last year. Finally, if GD can get back to 2008 form or even just stay healthy and clutch hit when they need him, he’ll be the “Big Piece” of the bench.

  • Posts: 0 The Second John

    Nice idea, but I don’t see it happening because they’re almost at their cap salary wise. The thing that worries me is the lack of right handers on the bench.

    I would take Lincecum over Halladay. It’s close, but I’d rather have Lincecum. But that’s my opinion.

  • Posts: 0 George

    To The Dipsy:

    Bob from Bucks posted a decently worded argument–though erroneous, because Gload is left-handed. There was no malice, no foul language, and no name-calling. So why such a uncivil, negative, profanity laced response?

    Also, you are making too many assumptions when you say that “you loved Matt Stairs.”

    I appreciate your input about possible trades, whether I agree or not. But I, and probably nobody else, appreciates it when you degenerate to name-calling and deciding who should like what. Keep it civil!

  • Posts: 0 John

    Wow, getting heated. The problem I have is that bench players are similar to ‘pen arms in that they are both very streaky and can be year to year with success. Who expected Dobbs and Stairs to struggle as they did last season? Who would’ve guessed Ryan Franklin would turn into a dominant closer for the Cards? We all know about Lidge… It really does seem to be like a crap shoot with those types of guys. One encouraging sign for me is that RAJ used to be one of those guys, I like to think that gives him a one-up on a lot of other GM’s when it comes to gauging the abilities of role/utility players. On a completely different note, I’m looking forward to seeing how Halladay handles a bat; that’ll go a long way into determining how many CG’s and IP’s he gets in the NL. Oh, and Dipsy, I agree; Dobbs and Gload are pretty interchangable, it’ll be interesting to see how Chollie uses them and how their roles develop.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    George – He popped off in the post before in a condescending way which also devalued my opinion as well as an attempt to devalue my worth as an individual. I took offense. I apologize for the quasi-swearing.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    P.S. – He did love Matt Stairs.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Dobbs needs at-bats in order to stay sharp. I think if Charlie gets him into more games…whether it’s starts at third….or whatever…that will help him stay loose, sharp and ready..

    I guess the same is true for any of the bench…they are gonna need REGULAR playing time..

    I still like our bench a lot as it is right now..

    2009…Dobbs, Stairs, Coste, Bruntlett (am I missing someone?) …..to start the season

    2010….Dobbs, Gload, Schneider, Castro, and Francisco….to start the season

    I’ll take 2010 any day of the week..

  • Posts: 0 The Ed 2

    This argument is like this site in general. Our main contributers are all stars, but our bench can get repetitve and may try to justify itself despite it’s obvious flaws. We probably should get rid of that excess. Wait, who am I agreeing with?

    The Ed 2

  • Posts: 0 Peasant

    another pointless thread based of a hilariously stupid idea that most baseball execs would dismiss as fan day-dreaming and doddering. complete with incredibly insulting and almost prejudicial responses from our resident blog-ruiner/poster, the dipsy. you should really not be allowed to post here, the quality of this blog continues to sufferin the absense of tim malcom. i remember fondly the days when “the dipsy” was relegated to just really stupid comments.
    and yes, this is

    “an attempt to devalue (your) worth as an individual”

    horribly stupid waste of money for the poster boy of aging/useless dh types who can’t even find a job in the AL


  • Posts: 0 Peasant


  • Posts: 0 Peasant

    and by the way, i’d take the beautiful rolling hills of bucks county and the quaint upscale and artistic towns anyday to a cramped ghetto apartment. just stupid. but you probably haven’t been out of your basement for 15 years so you think we live in “deliverance” up here, when it’s really a beautiful and modern place to live. grow up.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Who is this “Peasant” dude??

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Bucks is a big county. Doylestown is very nice. Its also pretty in spots along the river. New Hope is a favorite. I was kidding a little with that Bucks County quip BUT Bucks County, taken as a whole, may be beautiful in spots but still can’t be considered “modern”. If you don’t believe me, I can take you out to a still in the woods and we can hang out and get loaded.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I’ve seen guys in the woods…up in trees…..bow hunting….in Bucks County. The still is probably not far away.

  • Posts: 0 reddeath

    dipsy, your columns suck.

  • Posts: 0 shag beta sigma delta

    I think Fransisco is a real good 4th outfielder and RH bat off the bench. He showed signs of getting hits and is a decent to above average defender who can play all 3 outfield positions, far better then Dye at this age. Plus I think we are all in for a surprise if Mayberry gets some playing time in the Majors this year, I really do not know why but I think he is going to turn out to be OK, probably never more than a 4th outfielder on a good team. But he is a power RH bat off the bench if he makes the big club, if you are going to carry 6 bench guys I think it would be him.
    Schiender, Gload, Fransisco, Dobbs, Castro, Mayberry.
    Plus he can play either LF or RF and who knows his old man played first maybe they could work him out there this spring.

  • Posts: 0 George

    Dipsy–after re-reading the Bob in Bucks post, I can see why you may have reacted the way you did, whether I found his post demeaning or not. And at least you are decent enough to apologize for the @%$##. Some other posters never do.

    It would be nice if people would comment with some real facts, instead of just a bunch of denigrating and malicious words which have no bearing on the thread, but are just personal attacks. I suppose, though, that there are always going to be the “Peasants” of the baseball world.

    Sometimes I think “freedom of speech” is a bad idea. There should be an I.Q requirement first.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Thanks George.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Good post, George….agreed!!

  • Posts: 0 Peasant

    george,chuck, and dipsy:

    get a room.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck


    Oh, never mind…it’s not even worth responding to you.

  • Posts: 0 The Ed 2

    If there was an intelligence test for free speech most of us would be silenced and the newspaper industry would thrive. When you write a column sit back and enjoy the commentary. People wouldn’t get so angry if you just left well enough alone. That way you don’t give us more ammunition, for example…

    The Ed 2

  • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks


    Missed the personal attack, very disappointing. Yes I made a mistake about Gload.

    If you found my note personally insulting then I apologize for your interpretation. I did find your post very weak and I note I was far from alone. If you are not open to criticism then I suggest you not post. I would expect more than personal attacks and attacks on an entire county!

    I still question where this type of useless tinkering in an established line-up comes from.

    In general I like this site because there are thoughtful fans willing to have an adult discussion. If someone makes a silly argument then they should be corrected. If you have an opinion then you should be willing to handle counter-arguments.

    I hope you were just having a bad day.

    Bob in Bucks and proud of it!

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Dear Bob –

    Thank you for your note. It is not necessary for you to apologize for “my interpretation” inasmuch as you do not have ability to do so. If you would like to apologize for your condescending and belittling tone, that it is up to you. I guess my counter argument to your post should have been “nu-uh”. Incidentally, I was having a nice day when I read your posting and continued to do so.

    If you feel that some posts on this site, including mine, are silly and sad, perhaps there is a site for the more exalted and better informed fan that could cater more to your discriminating tastes and make you more comfortable. If I find the name of one I will be sure to pass it along. Until then, I hope you don’t find it too painful to muddle along here and continue to tolerate the sheer idiocy you so detest.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

    OK Dipsy, one more try. I apologize “my condescending and belittling tone”. I would ask you to do the same.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Hahahaha. Done! I apologize. Thank you for meeting me halfway.

    The Dipsy

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