Comments on: Year In Review: Pedro Martinez

By: SteveW

SteveW — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:16:49 +0000

Best moment was the NYPost photoshop of Pedro in a diaper – and Pedro’s response of “Check out the unit on Baby Pedro!”

Actually I thought he was real good. He ran out of gas in the last game, but they overstretched him. They really didn’t have anyone else at that point. If he’s well rested in August, I’d give him a call.

By: jrollpatrol08

jrollpatrol08 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:05:25 +0000

i agree with most on here—all good thoughts. i would probably give him a little higher than 5.5. yea he really stuck it up in game 6 of the WS at the bronx (kind of an important game) so he deserves to be knocked down a bit, but should still be about a 7 since value-wise it was a great return on a 1mil investment. he didnt look real sharp in game 6 at all, but it just didnt help that matsui was completely all over pedro’s game. dude just had a great game; could have single-handedly beat the phils in that game.

i was kind of surprised to see the comments that support the idea of bringing him back as 5th starter. i would definitely go for it, if his asking price comes down a bit. since there are probably some questions about his long-term durability, teams around the league are probably hesitant to get pedro at 5million. if it comes down a little bit i hope the phils lock him up another year. you cant underestimate the kind of experience a future HOF pitcher brings to the staff/clubhouse.

haha…pedro definitely adds ‘lore’ to the little run we are on.

By: Joel V.

Joel V. — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:49:15 +0000

A 5.5 our 10 rating tells me you expected alot more out Pedro than what we received. Not sure if it was logical to expect a 40 yr old pitcher who hasn’t pitched effectively in a few years to do much more than what he did. But alas, that is your opinion!

By: Chuck

Chuck — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:42:32 +0000

Who’s your Daddy??!!

By: Don M

Don M — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:23:50 +0000

He is easily rated a 7.12673 in my book, not quite a 7.2, but damn close!

By: Philly Texan

Philly Texan — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:13:50 +0000

I give Pedro a ton of credit. He pitched way above my expectations — at least when he wasn’t facing Matsui.

Sure, he only pitched half a season, but so what? That’s all we asked of him. And all he had to give. He pitched well and won games and helped the Phils win the division. Period. He performed well for a 5th starter. I was opposed to signing Pedro at first, but I was wrong. That was a good mid-season pickup.

By: Dudley Monk

Dudley Monk — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:16:03 +0000

Oscar Villarreal is now in the Phillies stable of minor league relief pitchers.

By: Brooks

Brooks — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:50:54 +0000

I was at a few of the games Pedro started during the year (rain and all). His performance during the year was pretty steady, we grew to expect to see a decent performance when he pitched. We certainly did not have quite that same cozy when say, Hamels pitched. His ERA was better than Jo’s –
I would definitely say during the year (yes, in the limited starts he had) Pedro did a more than adequate job as the teams #5 starter. His grade should be higher than 5.5.
That said, I too would be very interested in Wang as my low risk chance.

By: MikeB.

MikeB. — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:05:54 +0000

If Pedro was sick in that last World Series game, maybe he should have given up the start to Happ. Wonder how the game would have turned out? If Hamels and Lidge would have pitched up to expectations earlier in the WS then maybe Pedro would not have been pit on the spot pitching sick with the flu.

By: shag beta sigma delta

shag beta sigma delta — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:59:30 +0000

I like the 5.5, His first two starts were one inning rain delayed games, which I think Moyer got both wins. And I think his velocity started to dip even before the WS game, which to me says he could not got every fifth day all year long. Weren’t most of his starts during the season on more then 4 days of rest? That is why I do not think you can give him much more then a 6 tops.
Also that is why I do not like him in the fifth starter roll, unless say, he comes real cheap and you go with a 6 man rotation with him and Moyer pitching every other fifth starter spot. I know that will not happen, but that is the only way I see him going for the long haul of a full season.
I like giving KK a shot, along with Moyer and maybe some young arms from the minors. I think they proved last year you can get through the season on mixing up the 5th spot, since you only need 4 or maybe 3 starters come playoff time

By: WFC010

WFC010 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:19:46 +0000

I understand the point of pro-rating Pedro’s score since it wasn’t a full season, but 5.5 was still too low of a score. He deserved somewhere between a 6 and 7.5 if you ask me, when you consider that he gave us a lot more good than bad during his time here.

By: Chris.I

Chris.I — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:00:00 +0000

I agree…5.5 is absolutely incorrect. He deserves atleast an even 7 to 7.5. If he pitched better in the WS I would even say he deserved an 8-8.5

By: WFC010

WFC010 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:35:37 +0000

One of my favorite Pedro memories was that one AMAZING game he had against the Mets in like late August…I forget the exact date, but it was like the single most impressive game Pedro had with us, besides that Dodgers NLCS game.

By: Greg

Greg — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:31:39 +0000

Pedro was more than a 5.5. He was pitching very well in late august early Sept.

By: WFC010

WFC010 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:26:20 +0000

At this point, I would rather take a chance with Wang since he’s like a decade younger than Pedro, and still has the ability to be absolutely DOMINATING when healthy. That said, Pedro would still be an excellent 5th starter to have on the cheap. Guess we’ll see what happens…

By: Chuck

Chuck — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:05:10 +0000

How could I have forgotten Myers…and the 2008 NLDS??!!

By: Dudley Monk

Dudley Monk — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:52:16 +0000

The Phils signed Freddie Guzman to a minor league contract.

By: Blaise

Blaise — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:33:40 +0000

So Taguchi – much less valuable than bruntlett, amazing that he was even on the team in 2008
Pedro Feliz – clutch-i-est hit in Phillies history, possibly?
Brett Myers – in your face, CC Sabathia, NLDS 2008

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:23:04 +0000

Other members of the “lore” club (ex-Phils)

Matt Stairs–THAT home run!!
Cliff Lee–too much to list
Chris Coste–fan favorite
Scott Eyre–goofy, good guy
Pat Burrell–all the years…
Geoff Jenkins—the leadoff double in Game 5, Act 2
Eric Bruntlett–(Yes, he deserves to be on this list).. The triple play.

I’m sure there are others…Thanks to all of them and all the memories

Let’s keep the”little run” going!!

By: GWFightinsfan

GWFightinsfan — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:58:07 +0000

I’m glad Pedro pitched for the Phillies….even though we didnt win the Series, having a legend like Pedro in Phillies pinstripes kinda adds to the memory and the overall lore of this little run the organization is on.