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Halladay’s Quality Outing Again Ends in a Phillies Defeat

Posted by Pat Gallen, Sun, June 20, 2010 05:04 PM | Comments: 122
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For the first 17 innings of this series against the Minnesota Twins, it appeared to be the start of a breakout. The Phillies had beaten Nick Blackburn easily in the opener on Friday, giving the Phillies their third win in a row. On Saturday, Kevin Slowey was rocked and lasted just 1 2/3 innings before the epic bullpen collapse in the ninth inning.

Before that unheard of ninth inning where the Phillies gave up five runs, a sweep was well within reach. With a victory on Saturday, and Roy Halladay pitching today against Carl Pavano, it wasn’t such a far fetched thought. That’s why they play the game.

Halladay and the Phils were beaten by Pavano and the Twins 4-1 on Father’s Day and the possibility of a sweep quickly became a series loss.

Doc was his normal strike-throwing self as he struck out eight and did not allow a free pass, but he was hit hard in every inning. Halladay allowed solo homers to Denard Span and Justin Morneau and RBI singles by Joe Mauer and Jason Kubel in the defeat as Minnesota rocked the Phils starter for 10 hits in his eight innings on the mound. His final line included just three earned runs, making this his third loss of the season when he’s gone at least eight innings and given up three earned or less. Bad luck? Could be. There is some room for the blame to be placed on a very unstable lineup.

That lineup today produced just four hits and the lone run was contributed by the now-powerful Wilson Valdez. It was the shortstop’s second home run in as many games. Kind of odd, considering it had been six years between the first home run of his career and yesterday’s homer. Certainly it’s nice to see Valdez hitting it out rather than hitting into double plays, however, he was today’s lone bright spot.

Pavano, who had been tagged by the Phillies more than once in his career, was lights out. He went the distance and threw 105 pitches, 76 for strikes. All day long he kept the Phils bats off-balance with a great fastball/sinker/changeup/slider mix.

When asked whether yesterday’s mind-blowing loss trickled into today’s lackluster performance, Shane Victorino said absolutely not. “Last night’s loss was a fluke, but again, you don’t carry that over into today, you forget about it.”

What did carry over was the offense’s inability to provide Halladay with any sort of cushion. In his last six starts, he’s thrown 43 2/3 innings, but has been given just nine total runs of support. That’s a scary thought. What’s also scary is that the Phillies are now 5.5 games behind the Braves who have jumped to 42-28.

If they want to catch them, they’ll need to start now.

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  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Hey we beat the Yankees pretty good last year too. If I remember correctly Lidge blew a save and we would of swept. Then came the world series and I watch everyone get beat except for Lee. HMMM.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I think Blanton will have a HUGE second half. He’s still adjusting and recovering from starting the year on the DL. History is on his side….he’ll be fine.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    So now you’re gonna b*tch about the Phillies taking 2 of 3 last season….just because Lidge blew a save???

     
  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    Don M, this isn’t 2008 anymore. Even if we were to play the Rays again in the World Series, we would not be playing another young inexperienced club. Last year we lost the World Series with Lee, Martinez, Hamels, and Blanton. Even though we didn’t get blown away, our pitching staff was exposed.

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt M

    So Jeff why would you be so conifdent that Lee wouldn’t get smoked against the Yankees this year. And as far as the World Series, Pedro pitched very well in Game 2 and Blanton kept the Phillies in Game 4 only to be let down by the offense and bullpen respectively. So it’s not like the Phillies beat the Yankees 1-0 twice and got crushed 15-0 the other four games(although Game 6 was really bad).

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt M

    This is just a general comment about how stupid some people sound when it comes to the ’08 season: why are the Rays considered inexperienced during the World Series, but they were a great young team when they won the AL East, beat the White Sox in the ALDS, and beat the Red Sox in the ALCS? Also, wasn’t that the first World Series for almost the entire Phillies roster except Feliz and Eyer? Were they not inexperienced?

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I’ve said this before…..the Phillies might not want to play the Rays in the WS this year if they were to get that far… The Rays are a MUCH better club than in 2008.

     
  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    How stupid? The Phillies played in the 2007 playoffs and got destroyed. If you watched the games, it seemed that they were so uncomfortable.

    Also, in 2008 the Phillies’ average batters age was 30.1 and average pitchers age was 30.6. The Rays stood at 27.0 for batters and 27.5 for pitchers. The Phillies were more experienced both in terms of overall play as well as playoff appearances. The Rays on the other hand almost blew it against the Red Sox and backed into the World Series. From there, it seemed like they didn’t respond to the pressure of the big stage that well.

    We should all be thankful though that the city and team didn’t collapse with that suspended game. It seemed like fate was conspiring against us.

     
  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    My whole point about te Phillies in 2007 relates to how comfortable they are. They clearly matured. For a good recent example. Compare Chase Utley to Ben Francisco in the World Series last year. Francisco on the other hand looked scared. Utley was confident and the Yankees pitching staff probably still wake up with night terrors. Big difference.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    I wasnt talking about lidge. You asked about taking two of three of the yankees. we did that last season and then got beat up in the world series without lee. I think guys are missing the point here. Our GM is killing this team. I was very happy he stood his ground last season and passed on doc. They wanted to much and he said no. Then he makes that great deal for Lee. A steal. We were able to keep Drabek and Taylor, and Happ. Then he goes out gives The Jays wanted they wanted anyway and ships Lee out for nobody. What are you doing. We gave up our whole farm for Doc. Why because they did not want to pay Lee. So they give Howie 125 million, Jimmy his extention, Blanton, Moyer, and bring in a bunch of has beens for our pen. Tired of watching Lidge blow game after game after game. Throw in Raul and this guy is killing this team.

     
  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    Jeff is right on here. Given the signings Amaro has made, acting as he had in the name of “replenishing the farm” is a total joke. His goal seems to be to assemble a team of 38-year olds.

    In retrospect, getting rid of Lee was a massive mistake. I never thought I’d say this, but our prospects for 2012 are very grim indeed.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lou P.

    Okay. For all of you Ryan Howard haters, here it goes. He leads the team in HR, RBI and Hits. He is second on the team in SLG and Batting AVG (at least 200 ABs) and 4th in OBP (at least 200 AB). As far as the entire National League, Howard is 6th in HR, 4th in RBI, 7th in Hits. I mean C’MON. Take into consideration this is his worst year!! And, take into consideration that if the top 3 spots got on base once in a while….what would the aforementioned stats show? How can he get anyone in if they are not even on base? I agree with Joe, your all getting a little crazy because the team is failing. It’s not one player. It’s the TEAM. Oh, and who will give Jason Werth $16M?

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Lidge has ONE blown save this year. Otherwise, he’s been great. Poor argument, Jeff.

    I agree that Baez sucks. But the other guys have been good. Sure they are gonna give up runs once in awhile. It happens. But you make it seem like the entire bullpen sucks…and it doesn’t.

     
  • Posts: 0 MikeB.

    Matt M; the Phillies might not need a sweep against Atlanta next time they play them but it certainly would help. As the season passes bye, each game becomes more vital then the last and each game, especially against those teams ahead of you, becomes more important to win. The Phillies absorbed enough losses from the Braves in the 1990′s. Need to beat these guys as often as they can as Atlanta looks more and more like the real challenger to the Phillies for the Eastern Division Crown with each game that they win.

     
  • Posts: 0 Tim

    Can we please get Halladay and Hamels some help in the rotation? If Amaro does not get Cliff Lee back and resign him to a decent deal to keep him out of free agency, I have to believe he isn’t serious about winning this year or next. The guy has proven he loves playing for the Phillies, he would sign a deal with us, and with the cash this club is raking in every day as a winning team, $9 million (or $15 million for that matter) a year is no roadblock.

    You want bad economics for the Phils, try becoming irrelevant or mediocre again.

     
  • Posts: 0 Tim

    For the record, it obviously doesn’t need to be Lee, but please, for the love of God, do not go out and sign Fausto Carmona, or Jake Westbrook or anything else nobody in their right mind could get excited about, ala Joe Blanton. When your competition is the Yankees, Red Sox, Twins, Cardinals, and Braves, you simply need a top-quality rotation. So spend the damned money. Please.

     
  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    “So spend the damned money.”

    Too late. Please meet Ryan Howard, Jaime Moyer, Brad Lidge, and Raul Ibanez.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lou P.

    In Halladay’s last six starts the offense has put up a total of 9 runs (1.5 per game). It’s likely then that the offense would be the same for Cliff Lee. As long as Cliff Lee has an ERA of less than 1.50 signing Lee is great. Otherwise, it really doesn’t atter who pitches for the phils, does it?

     
  • Posts: 0 Lou P.

    I do agree with most people regarding Howard, though. The Phillies did not need to extend Howard’s contract this year. He was signed through 2011. But extending his contract didn’t use up money for this and next year. but for 2012 who is going to replace Howard? What will his worth be? $25M a year? $30M? $35M?

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Chuck, no disrespect but your wrong about Lidge. How can you defend him. Outside of 08 he has been aweful here. The blown saves all last seasons and injuries. I admit he looked sharp a couple weeks ago but thats one game. When your close comes into a ninth after a moron gives up some runs. You have a three run lead nobody out, you put them away. Thats what good closers do. Chuck do you really trust Lidge in a one run game? We have nobody in this pen that I trust. I blame that on Jr. He did nothing to help. If he got some pen help and signed Lee we would be in a great shape. Keeping our farm strong and the pitcher that almost won us the world series by himself.

     
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