Moyer the Stopper

Posted by Brian Michael, Wed, June 16, 2010 11:37 PM | Comments: 84
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Leave it Jamie Moyer to come through in the clutch. It was like he was back pitching an NL-East clinching game – when you needed him the most, he came through. Moyer allowed just two solo homers and an additional hit in his superb eight-inning outing. Brad Lidge came on in the ninth to strike out the side, but not before allowing two hits and a run himself. The Phils won 6-3.

Ryan Howard and Jayson Werth hit consecutive homers in the third inning, the 11th of the season for both of them. To all our dismay, these were the first back-to-back homers in 2010 for the Phils. Earlier in the second, Shane Victorino hit a bases-loaded triple off Yankees starter A.J. Burnett to put the Phils up 4-0. The much-maligned Greg Dobbs knocked in the first run and went 1-2 as the DH. The offense was working again but maxed out in the fourth with 6 runs and 6 hits on the board. It proved to be enough tonight.

Carlos Ruiz sat out nursing a sore ankle and an 0-for-22 slump.

The ESPN announcers said the Phillies needed this game to avoid the sweep with Andy Pettitte matched up against Kyle Kendrick tomorrow. I say they still have a chance to take the series.

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  • Posts: 1376 Pat Gallen

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    I just don’t get it. There is no continuity from game to game with anyone on this team anymore. Just no idea what you’ll get from day to day and that’s worrisome.

    I’m happy it’s a win, but I’m a little peeved they couldn’t get more than 6. Call me crazy, but this was a statement game in the making and they failed. Use this as motivation and win the series tomorrow..

  • Posts: 0 Scotch Man

    I agree with Pat. Once they knocked Burnett out of the game, I was half expecting 10 more runs to follow. Boone Logan? For one, I have never heard of him. Two, even if he is a lefty, the Phils shouldn’t have looked that asleep with him. But, they are showing signs of life and a win is a win. If the ESPN folks seriously said that this was the game where they needed to avoid a sweep, I’d watch that rhetoric. Kendrick has a way of fooling hitters that have never seen him before. Not counting him out at all.

    Props to Jamie Moyer on a fantastic rebound from an awful start. He’s always learning and as bad as he was the other day, leave it to the veteran to get back in the game with a gem. He’s something else to watch. He has a way of winning when winning is the only option. Tonight was one of those games and he came through.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    How did they fail, Pat??

    Moyer dominated.

    Back to back HRs.

    Shane’s bases clearing triple…..Clutch!

    Lidge ….3 Ks.

    How else do you want them to make a statement?

  • Posts: 0 Chris.I

    Pat I agree with what you said about not knowing what you’ll get from day to day. Other than Jamies Gem, and our offense getting an early lead in the 2nd and 3rd inning…We looked beat up and tired. Maybe its from all the critiscism, maybe its Jimmy, maybe there trying too hard…I don’t know what it is. Im sure if Charlie really knew it would of been corrected by now.

    One important thing I have to point out about this slump is opposing pitching. Pitchers know that were ball bashers. Its what made us world phucking champs. If you throw the ball anywhere in the zone, we beat you everytime. Pitchers figured us out…We have ZERO PATIENCE at the plate, and pitchers throw us JUNK balls all day long. I noticed pitchers always get away with first ball fast ball straight down the plate (which we need to take advantage of from time to time) than everything is everywhere but in the zone and they swing everytime. They need to get their shit together

  • Posts: 1376 Pat Gallen

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    Dont get me wrong, Moyer certainly dominated. That was awesome to see. The offense is who I meant. I guess I shouldn’t be too hard on them. Valdez is a black hole at the plate and the DH spot isnt working.

  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Your wrong Pat. We have seen the Phillies put up 12 and then not hit for a while. Baby steps. I will take 6 tonight.

  • Posts: 0 Chris.I

    Call me crazy but I think right now would be a good time to take advantage of the DH and call Brown or Mayberry up because Francisco just doesnt seem to be helping out much.

  • Posts: 1376 Pat Gallen

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    Jeff, they havent been able to go for the throat. We’ve seen 6 runs here, 5 runs there, 10 runs over there. But nothing sustainable. They had 6 runs early on in the game and couldn’t build on it.

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  • I don’t think there’s anybody on that bench who can step into a DH role without lukewarm groans (Francisco) or panicked screams (Dobbs–though yeah, I saw that hit tonight too). So that’s never going to be a real hot spot as we stumble out of 2010 Interleague play.

    My roommate is a Yankees fan and when he saw Boone Logan warming up he called him “the human white flag.” Clearly he’s not a guy the Yanks trot out there because he’s got undeniable stopping power. And… we couldn’t hit him… but we could hit Burnett. What the… eff…

    Oh well. W. ‘Nuff said.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    SO WHAT, guys!! We won. Decisively.

    I don’t know….but to me a 6-3 win ……is a VERY GOOD win.

    Nothing cheap about it. There was a little of everything….GREAT pitching, CLUTCH hitting (Vic!!!), your closer getting it done.

    I am EXTREMELY happy…especially with the prospect of a very tough night tomorrow night with Pettitte.

  • Posts: 0 Brian Sr. of CO

    Honestly I believe the reason more runs were not put on the board was Shane Victorino’s bonehead moment. He stole 2nd…Awesome, but when you have a DEEP fly to the Warning track, you MUST tag and move forward. It was a mistake that didnt cost them anything except more of a “statement”. Either way putting 6 runs on the board against the Yankees regardless of who it is, is a statement.

  • Posts: 0 Jeff of Nova


    Need to remember the Yankees bullpen is probably the best in baseball if not near the top, so scoring 6 was good

  • Posts: 0 karen

    Jamie moyer is just amazing though. for his age and all……awesome. thanks jamie.

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    Keith and I just got back from the game. Rough atmosphere.
    We did sit in the center right bleachers (I have not seen those seats in a few decades) and teh crowd there was pretty rough. Lots of Phillies fans but lots of nonsense too. Fights to our left and to our right, drunks all around and lots and lots of cops.
    To the game – Moyer as usual did not really have anything special. He was just getting the outside calls like he needs. The hit that Dobbs had looked like it should have been a double, perhaps he forgot what to do on the basepaths its been so long. And, he knocked in a run! Cano hit a hr that landed probably 20 some rows deep in right center, it was a smash – Jaysons hr was a line drive and Ryans shot was probably to the deepest part of the park.
    I too was expecting more from the offense especially after Burnett exited. Nary a hit.
    All in all, good game. Would I go back to NY for another? Only for a special occasion, like post season. Hey, the train ride up ($15), the parking at the train station ($7), the food ($11 for a 24 oz beer, which I like bigger beers..) it got a little expensive. No rain though, good win too.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Lets hope they snapped out of it.
    when they do they could explode. Which will be great
    Or they could stink all year.
    Tomorrow will tell alot about heart.
    Im excited to watch a game for the first time in awhile. It got pretty bad there for about a month.

  • Posts: 0 jt

    win is a win but i’m still concerned becaue they were shut down by a bunch of no name guys i mean who is boone logan we a few other people said that to each other i was expecting them to put up at least 10 myself once burnett left the game…i think kendrick will struggle like he always does no way he shuts down a lineup like the yankees and hopefully they get his out of the starting rotation.

  • Posts: 0 Adrian

    This is an offense that collected more than 10 hits in 12 of the first 17 games in May. They’re going to need to get more than six on a consistent basis before I start to believe they’re out of this funk.

  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    I’m with Jeff on this one: I don’t want to see them get 10 runs tonight and then get blanked for the rest of the week. Baseball is pass-fail; all they need to do is get 1 run more than the other team. They did their job (for a change); they got runs in more than one inning (for a change). I’m pleased with what I saw.

    I love that Jamie Moyer makes history every time he does something good just by virtue of being old. He was the oldest guy to throw a complete game shut-out. Now he’s the oldest guy to beat the Yankees. OLD GUYS ROCK!!!

  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Chase Utley’s voodoo shrine worked to perfection. That’s the only reasonable explanation for Moyer beating the Yankees.

    I’m Ted Bell.

  • Posts: 0 DMarley

    “Call me crazy, but this was a statement game in the making and they failed.”

    Put on your statement-receiving pants and get back to us. This was a strong team win.

    “Moyer as usual did not really have anything special”

    Yeah, nothing special about that guy ;)

  • Posts: 0 Jeff Y.

    How does Jamie Moyer get lit up like a Christmas tree against the Bosox, and then look like Steve Carlton against the Yanks???

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I have a concern about Brad Lidge. Ot maybe its an observation. His fastball topped out at about 92 last night. While that speed is way down from what he used to throw his movement is still decent. But it appears that this year he has added a pitch and that is: the slider that actually breaks in for a strike. Its a good pitch. He threw one at 84 which also looked a little change uppy. Did anyone notice this? Has Brad changed the way he has pitched? Don’t get me wrong: I know that if he could ever throw 97 again that it would be fastball and slider in the dirt again. But right now he appears to have a fastball and two different sliders. If he pitches that way, I would think that he would have to stay ahead in the count because at 3-2, he doesn’t have that go to fastball to go to because he can’t throw it past anyone who knows its coming. Thats said, he has been effective and I am happy for that.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Dave

    He’s always thrown the 2 sliders. I’m trying to be patient with him since he hasn’t pitched much this year. He looks better than last year at least.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I don’t know Dave. Let me be more precise: He now uses that “strike-slider” regularly, as opposed to a change of pace from his fastball.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck


    Three words, brotha:

    WELL LOCATED fastball.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I agree. Would you agree he has changed his pitching M.O. somewhat?

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I don’t know. Possibly. I will have to really look closely next time he pitches.

    I DO know one thing though….his confidence is there. I mean, he could have totally buckled in last night with Posada at the plate and runners on and a run already in. But he didn’t…..and that’s a VERY good thing!!

    No saying he will be perfect in save situations for the rest of the year. But 4 for 4 is a nice start and a shot in the arm that this team needs right now.

  • Posts: 0 George

    So what if they didn’t get more than six? How many times does a team actually lose a game because they “only scored six?” One should save being “peeved” for games where they look pathetic for all nine innings, don’t get any steals or home runs, and don’t get any bases loaded hits, and make stupid mental errors. So what if Boone Logan pitched well; he wouldn’t have pitched at all if they hadn’t hit the crap out of Burnett.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I’ll tell ya what, if he’s gonna throw that get over slider than he better keep it from breaking down and in to the lefties cause they’re gonna crush it. He should try and break it in over the outside of the plate againt them. A-Rod crushed one last night.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Good point.

    I wouldn’t say he dominated last night….because he put runners on and did give up a run. But he got it done. And didn’t crumble. That’s all you can really ask for from your closer.

    And, to further these comments about whether or not the Phillies should have scored more last night….. Again, like I said earlier. a 6-3 win….over the defending WS champion Yankees…..is a VERY GOOD win. I could really care less if they didn’t get more runs. Moyer was awesome and Lidge got it done.

  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    I’m not understanding the “it’s a win, but I wish they scored more runs” sentiment either. When you come away with a win against all odds in a game that Jamie Moyer starts against the Yankees, you should simply thank the baseball Gods and try to figure out how to get through the next game with KK on the mound. Hopefully, the baseball Gods will be generous once more. Let’s hope Chase left his Voodoo shrine intact also.

    I’m Ted Bell.

  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    I think I can explain it Ted.

    Everybody is looking for signs that this team slump is over.

    A big, clutch (emphasis) EXTRA BASE (emphasis) hit , a couple homers…yeah that looks like it might be it.

    Or was it just an aberration?

    Just the night before, we saw how a good team does it- they pile on.

    The Phillies quickly reverted to their old self.

    Weak groundouts in the clutch ( Ibanez).
    Nothing at bats.
    Utley displaying his Valdez power- i.e. none.( That last AB was typical . Hit it solid- only reached the warning track.)

    So the skeptical among us are still skeptical.

  • Posts: 1376 Pat Gallen

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    Thank you TEEJVEE. You hit the nail on the head as to why my comments earlier were somewhat subdued. Sure, its a win against a very good team. But we need to know that the slump is completely over. Going for the kill would have been great and against a team this good, could have a trickle down effect.

  • Posts: 0 metsfan4life

    hahah phillie fans ur team sux ur lucky u won last night…i am goin to the game tonight just to see that no good piece of shit Kendrick get bombed!!!

  • Posts: 0 metsfan4life

    and o yea Mets will sweep Cleveland too!!

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Maybe the WFC in 2008 was an “aberration” too.

    And that “good team” you are referring to…the Yankees from the night before…looked befuddled against Moyer. They sure “piled it on” last night, huh?

    Seriously, I really don’t know what some of you people are looking for.


    Look…it will be tough to win tonight. No question. Andy Pettitte is like the best pitcher in the league. KK just needs to pitch his game and hold his own. And the Phillies need to be patient at the plate.

    Still…let’s say they lose. That’s a 2-4 road trip against the two of the best teams in the AL.

    So there is no reason to think that with Halladay and Hamels pitching at home that they can’t take 2 of 3 from the Twins. Let’s figure 2 of 3 from the Indians…at least…..and we’ll maybe assume they have problems with the Jays, losing 2 of 3.

    That’s a 7-8 record for this stretch of interleague play…basically .500 ball. Not bad considering the Phillies history with interleague.

    Then it’s the Reds, a good team…but let’s figure 2 of 3 there. Maybe between the Jays and Reds it’s a 3-3 stretch somehow.

    That’s a 12-14 June record. About what it was the last two seasons.

    By then, J-Roll SHOULD be back and this lineup all of a sudden looks MUCH different heading into the second half of the season.

  • Posts: 0 metsfan4life

    how many of u Phillie fans actually get SNY on ur TV??

  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    be prepared metsfan4life.

    Kendrick has secretly been working on a screwball. Tonight is the night he may unveil it.

  • Posts: 0 metsfan4life

    good luck with a-rod cano and swish i dont think kendricks screwball would make a huge difference

  • Posts: 0 Ben

    i will say this, it ticks me off that people call for moyer’s head every bad start he has, and then his good starts are chalked up to a good outing.

    he is a consistent starter looking at a whole years worth of work. you can peg him for 10 wins at the beginning of the year, every year. whenever anyone complains about him its that he throws too slow and he is too old, like those are the end all be all things to getting people out.

    congrats to moyer on another fine win, #265 in his career. terrific back end of the rotation pitcher and mentor.

  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    Maybe the WFC in 2008 was an “aberration” too.

    And that “good team” you are referring to…the Yankees from the night before…looked befuddled against Moyer. They sure “piled it on” last night, huh?”

    Give it up chuck.
    You can’t argue your way out of shitty performance.
    2008 is past history. This is 2010.

    It’s pretty cut and dried.

    Even good teams have bad nights.

    End even bad teams have good nights.

    Right now, the Yankees are the former and the Phillies are the latter.

    That could all be different by next week , but then we’ll have a different discussion.

  • Posts: 0 Dave

    Dipsy…maybe he’s throwing it more often than before, but I’ve seen him throw it since he’s been here. He likes to throw it on the first pitch to guys who sit first pitch fastball….someone like Jorge Cantu for example.

  • [...] The old man went eight innings, giving up only three hits and two runs.  Not bad for a guy who had every expectation to be shaken up after being shattered in his last start by a not as good Red Sox squad. [...]

  • Posts: 0 metsfan4life

    Whoever thinks Kyle Kendrick is going to get torched tonight give me a HELL YEA!!!! I think while im at the game i’ll have a couple of steveweisers and have a toast with Stone Cold

  • Posts: 0 phillyphaith

    metsfan4life, if you’re such a big mets fan shouldn’t you be at staying at home to watch the mets game??? and not going to see the yanks/phils game….

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    I noted that Michael Barkann was back in his pre-game seat beside Ricky Bo right where he belongs. Coincidence?

    I still say they had Jimmy Rollins on speakerphone or web cam before the game.

    Moyer dominated; can’t say enough good things about his performance last night and what it meant to go up against the Yankees. He blanked Jeter.

    Howard and Werth got their swing back and Victorino delivered big-time on that bases-clearing triple. Even Dobbs

    We can analyze this win all we want and realize there are still some pretty big problems (the big hole at the bottom of the line-up being number one on the list), but I’m just enjoying the fact that the Yankees won’t be sweeping us whatever happens tonight. In the middle of this slump, that’s saying something.

  • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

    Keep up the growsing – “not enough runs” yada yada. The Phils won and they did fine. Like I said yesterday, I knew we were coming out of it because all the panic buttons were pushed!

    The Yankees are a fine team – taking one out of three in their park is fine – 2 out of 3 would be a surprise – especially since we threw our 1-5-6 pitchers against their 1-2-3.

    Calm down folks, it is baseball, nothing is consistent from game to game. That is why they play ‘em.

  • Posts: 0 ray

    Metsfan4life is more interested in the phillies than the choking mutts. He knows the ending to the story so he’s enjoying this while he can so when the season is inevitably over for him in august he can post under a different name for a different team.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    “Everything happens for a reason. Unless it doesn’t”. Figure that one out and you’ll have the answer to the slump.

    The Dipsy

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