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Phillies Injury Update: Happ and Rollins

Posted by Pat Gallen, Wed, June 09, 2010 09:06 PM | Comments: 48
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From the Phillies Public Relations Department:

LHP J.A. Happ (left forearm strain) will continue his rehab assignment by making a start for double-A Reading on Sunday (6/13).

SS Jimmy Rollins (right calf strain) will workout with the team in Philadelphia tomorrow. On Friday, he will workout in Clearwater, Fla. On Monday, June 14, he will begin a rehab assignment with single-A Clearwater.

Happ pitched three innings yesterday, allowing two runs. He’s still a ways from coming back and you have to wonder if he’ll jump right back into the rotation. Kyle Kendrick has righted the ship (up until Tuesday night) and Joe Blanton is being paid $24 million over the life of his three-year deal, meaning Happ could pitch out of the bullpen when he’s ready to return. It would make sense. They could ease him back into a role by using him as the long man and slowly allow Kendrick time to decrease his role.

Jimmy Rollins may be starting his rehab assignment on Monday, but he isn’t that close either. He said it himself; he won’t push it in the beginning like he did the last time he returned from the calf strain. The Phillies will give him off days to ease himself back into game shape.

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  • Posts: 0 karen

    Jroll will be great when back and 100 percent healthy. Happ will need to be eased back into the lineup but the starting rotation is not as strong as it could be. hamels, halladay and moyer are the only consistent ones. blanton has been not so good so far….

     
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  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    The elephant in the room. This is 2 of the last 3 years Rollins has missed significant time for minor injuries.

    Is he breaking down?

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    teejvee: Hopefully not because RAJ already picked his 2011 option!

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    Rollins is indeed breaking down. It happens to older players and hopefully some type of conditioning program in the offseason will help him considerably.

     
  • Posts: 0 Nunzio Scholeri

    It’ll be intriguing to see how Happ picks up when he comes back, on a number of levels. There’s the whole sophomore season thing, plus recovering from an injury. I really hope he jumps in and does well. We need a 4th good arm in our starting rotation. Ideally we need a 5th, as well – here’s hoping Blanton can turn it around. Great to see Halladay being Halladay, and Hamels and Moyer doing well, but the more consistency we can get the better.

     
  • Posts: 0 phils_ftw

    Teejvee, why did you stop posting on the Phillies MLB board? Everyone misses your bashing of the team! If that even is the same Teejvee, but considering two people using the same name, both Phillies fans seems too much of a coincidence not to be the same person. :P

     
  • Posts: 0 Adrian

    Speaking of guys coming off the DL, Cliff Lee has not been nearly as bad as Blanton since his return for the Mariners. If we didn’t save a lousy $2 million we’d still be in first place right now. Yeah, it’s only one start every five games, but I doubt the Phillies would be hitting so poorly with the confidence of two Cy Young-winning pitchers on their staff.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike

    Please no more about Cliff Lee!! I loved the guy but he’s gone. We have to move on.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    Soo, is there something else going on with Jimmy?
    Is Jimmy giving it a ‘do or die’ attitude when figuring in how to come back and play?
    Or are we looking at a bit of complacency? There are a number of Phils that seem to be playing less inspired this year. Chase is one. Jayson just looks confused and Ibanez, well other than his 4 singles the other night, he has just plain stunk – Dobbs has been very much a non-factor –
    I would hate to think it but perhaps, just perhaps it is so. When you have the Golden Grail, the prize that every kid playing baseball ever dreams of and you made the WS 2 years in a row, you know you are the best – what motivates you to win again?
    You know I love the Phillies – I have had season tiks since the year before CBP (partial season plans, this year a fsp) – I have seen them struggle, play inspired ball and other than flashes of greatness (like the newcomer Halladay), there’s not much else to get excited about. Cole seems to have gotten over his complacent attitude and his childish behavior – to me of late he is looking better than 08.
    Time to review a report card on individual performances for 1/3 of the season?

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    I’m tired of all the junior psychologist on this site lately. Sometimes a slump is just a slump, and so-called complacency has nothing to do with it. It never seems to occur to anyone that maybe a player is trying TOO hard.

    There’s plenty to motivate a two-time world series team. There’s prestige, extra money, and product endorsements. There are individual goals and records. There’s that feeling of being best not for one year or two, but for a succession of years. There are new players on any team who haven’t yet experienced being on top.

     
  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    What exactly does Blanton making that money have to do with anything?

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    OK George – a team wide slump. Werth, Utley, Ibanez, Dobbs – all just stop hitting at the same time – sure, we’ve seen it before right? Especially for this length of time – don’t think so.

    All I really care about is seeing the Phils play ball to their capacity and frankly, I for one don’t see the same intensity as in past years. You sound like a regular drone pal. Spewing the same things that the team has been coming up with. I want to see them improve and I am tired of the apologist like you who basically want to ‘leave them alone’ and they’ll get out of it…

    They will – but management can help by making some adjustments.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I’m sure there are plenty of “junior psychologists” all throughout the Delaware Valley after the after the Flyers’ loss last night. Oh well, it was fun!!

    As for Rollins and Happ……we probably won’t ……and SHOULDN’T see them til AFTER the All-Star Break. Why rush them back at this point. I’d rather see them completely healthy (if that’s even possible) for the second half of the season.

     
  • Posts: 0 bfo_33

    George, The mental and emotional factors in baseball are far larger than in any other sport (half the game is 90% mental according to Yogi). The popularity of blogs is based upon people wanting to throw out theories and opinions to a wide audience. Even Charlie can’t help it (although he has media coverage).

    I have no issue with people calling out others on poorly thought out theories, but if you are tired of the junior psychologists, you probably shouldn’t read the comment section when the team or certain players are in a slump.

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    CLIFF LEE deal revisited:

    “According to Rosenthal’s sources, the Phillies discussed Lee with the Yankees last winter prior to trading the left-hander to the Mariners. The Yankees had been willing to include Montero in a package for Lee, but that was before both the Vazquez trade and the emergence of Hughes.”

    Montero… Aumont… you tell me.. Ouch.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan Morrison

    Okay heres the thing. Trading Lee was stupid we all know that. Now theres some thinking to do about this rotation. Yes, the Phillies are in a slump but slowly and slowly they are coming out of it, thanks to the comeback victory Tuesday night. I think the Phils need to shop for another pitcher to fill a spot in the rotation. With Happ still in rehab, we can only question how long it will be until he is back. I’m talking a top three rotation spot kind of guy, like Roy Oswalt. I don’t believe that Yankees are pursuing any pitching at the moment, I think they are looking for another bat in their lineup. It will come down to the Cardinals and the Phillies for Oswalt, and I think the Phillies need to win that battle if they want another shot in the post season.

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Ryan, I think that getting a starter like Oswalt is not what the Phillies need… especially because of the lack of solid prospects we have in our system (which we didn’t strength much with the Lee deal I might add) and the $$$ commitment such a player would involve, with real implications for 2011 and beyond. So, I think it is what it is. We just got to go with what we got unless a serious injury comes up that really hurts our chances.

    I just wanted to bring up something I read online about Lee… when people were saying that his value wasn’t high enough to get better prospects than Aumont and Co…

     
  • Posts: 0 MikeB.

    Yeh, this Rollins with this calf muscle pull or strain or whatever it is sure has taken a great deal of time trying to get the thing healed up. I realize that it is a hard injury to deal with and takes awhile to heal up but after being out so long, you would think that the guy would just eventually decide to wrap the thing up, tough it out and go ahead out and play. It will not be long before it will be the halfway point of the season.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mostone

    Brooks – My main problem w/ your analysis is that you are using the last couple of weeks on their own without regard to the earlier part of the season when the Phils were unstoppable. Where was the lack of effort then?

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Who is banging the drum on Oswalt? We don’t need another starter. I would try to cherry pick a loog from one of those terrible AL teams such as Balt, etc. The team is fine and Jimmy is not breaking down. I would get Ibanez the hell outta left though.

    One problem is defense: Polanco is a step down from Feliz, Castro/Valdez step down from Jimmy. So the left side of your infield is poor to average defensively right now. Ibanez is horrible. Someone should tell him that the leather thing on his hand is for snagging baseballs out of the air before they hit the ground. I think that the Phils should do what we did in the old days when we were kinds. For a right handed batter, have Jayson move to left and Ibanez to right.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    After tonight, the Philies next 18 games… , Boston away, NYY away, Twins, Cle, Toronto, Cin.

    They would be doing very well if they could muster an 8-10 record there.

    They way they have been playing, something like 6-12 seems more likely.

    That would put them 2 games under .500 on July 1.
    The Braves and the Mets could put some big distance on the Phils.

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Jimmy has learned something over the past few years……162 games is ALOT of games. And it’s more important to be fresh and rested towards the end of the season, so some time off early on is just what the doctor (not Roy) ordered. I’m not saying he isn’t hurting, just that he/they are going to take their time bringing him back. The team is still in the race, to be sure, and these veteran champions have learned that you can’t play ALL OUT baseball every game, all season long. it’s similar to the hockey season, where the Flyers laid back a little, then had plenty of gas left in the tank for the post season.

    If you expect to see the Phillies play every game like it’s a WFS game, you’re really expecting too much then….you can’t have your cake and eat it too. As long as they play well enough to remain close to the top of their division, and then kick it into high gear in the latter part of the second half and for the playoffs, it’s all good.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan Morrison

    Dipsy I agree. They need to get Ibanez out of left field. It would certainly be nice for the Phils to have some one who has somewhat range and that can catch a ball in left field. However I have been impressed by Valdez’s fielding so far. He isn’t perfect, but he has a cannon and has saved the Phillies a couple times with runners in scoring position by throwing someone out at first from just in front of the outfield grass. We could sure use Jimmy though…

    Anyone see a shut out from Doc tonite??

     
  • Posts: 0 Bobby D

    Damn. I was hoping for some good news here.

    Speaking of banging drums, Cody Ransom can’t be any worse than Valdez. There’s an easy shake up. Ben Fran for Mayberry is an experiment worth trying as well.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan Morrison

    Maybe starting Francisco in left for Ibanez a couple games won’t be such a bad idea…. as long as he does better defensively in left than he did in right Tuesday night..

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Cody Ransom also can’t be any better than Valdez … who is a fill-in (not even a planned bench player)

    Ben Fran for Mayberry is pointless … if neither of them is ever going to get at-bats, why not keep Mayberry in AAA playing every night and maybe develop him another year or two


    Sometimes people just need to re-mutha-fuggin-lax, let the team get healthy …. the backups are BACKUPS for a reason … you can’t have All-Star caliber players at all 25 roster spots, and then a few more All-Stars in AAA in case of injury.

    These guys are doing what was expected by anyone that knows baseball.. there is no point swapping one guy-for-another, because the new guy will struggle until he gets into a groove, and by that time Rollins or whoever else will be ready to go

    we’re 31-26 right now… with multiple significant injuries already, and team that year-after-year has shown that they play their best baseball as the season gets older

    have some Phaith in the guys on the roster, and the Front Office people that put that roster together!

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I think its funny that people are making cases that Raul Ibanez is like single handidly killing this team right now…

    first of all … we’re 5 games over .500

    he’s coming off an injury last season, so smary money was that he wasn’t going to start HOT this season … BUT … he’s got 24 RBIs, and he’s hitting .246 right now. Once the team gets everyone healthy …. Ibanez can hit 7th, as planned, and everything will be alllllll right

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan Morrison

    I wouldn’t say that Ibanez is killing the team, because nobody is really hitting right now. I’m just wondering what will happen in the future with him. Whether the Phillies will resign him or release him. But I agree give it a couple games and the hitting will come around.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    well he’s under contract for this season, and next season ….

    so they won’t resign him… and since they don’t have any better options, and could potentially lose jayson werth as a free agent in the offseason, I doubt they’ll release him either

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan Morrison

    Yeah your right. I kinda have mixed feelings on whether they re sign Werth or not. I really like the way he plays and it would be unfortunate if the Phils don’y pick up his contract, but when will Dominic Brown make his debut?

     
  • Posts: 0 Reem

    I say stick with Kendrick when Happ comes back and move Hiney Hole Hamels out of the rotation. Kendrick is just starting to blossom into that pitcher we got a taste of in spring training. He works hard and wants it more than Hiney Hole. Hamels thinks that he can just come in and guys will get themselves out. He shot his load all over the 2008 season and now there is nothing left.

     
  • Posts: 0 Robert

    Raul has never been liked here. They have been booing him at home since early in last season, even when he was hot.

     
  • Posts: 0 Me

    Robert… they were yellin RAUUUUUL not booo

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    The Phils are in an incredibly strong not weak position right now. No other team is in a position to be able to add an all-star closer, good young starter and a very good reliever to the roster in the coming weeks without having to give up anything. It may not seem it and I fully expect days over the next 2-3 weeks to be ugly, but the Phils have an incredibly strong roster going forward.

    Have to say I’d be intrigued to see if the Phils can pick-up a potentially everyday right handed bat in the outfield like Xavier Nady who could contribute and potentially replace Werth in the short-term with the upside to stay around longer than Ibanez. I really don’t like the idea of bringing up Dominic Brown until he can come up without having to make up for the loss of a middle of the order bat and the pressure that comes with that.

    Is anyone talking about Lidge anymore? The guy was all but written off and he looks very strong coming back.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    ^I think best scenario you see Brown taking Ibanez roster spot not Werth’s.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    I get sick of the junior psychologists because they all seem to say the same tripe. No team looks “intense” when they’re losing, so people like Brooks are just making assumptions about attitude. And by the way, Brooks, who gave you the right to refer to me as a “pal?” Also, I’ll gladly point out that the Phils HAVE had slumps extending as long (maybe even longer) as this one, and during last year’s slump, there were no key injuries to make things worse. How many games did the team pee away in June of last year? There were people then saying they’d never win the division.

    And now, Rollins is slacking! What happened to a calf strain? Ever had one, Mike B? You can’t run even if you are “toughing it out.” Maybe if he sawed his leg off, you’d be a little more understanding, although I doubt it.

    Finally, Ibanez is absolutely no worse than Burrell was in left, and for two years now he’s hit better, too. Why wasn’t Pat booed out of town? Watching the two of them, Ibanez has slightly better range and slightly softer hands. Burrell had the better arm, though, when he finally caught up with those balls someone else would have caught.

    It looks to me that the Phil’s offense is beginning to turn things around, anyway, so their so-called lack of intensity is a really stupid argument. You don’t turn a slump around by sitting on your butt.

    By the way, if I were to stop reading the comments, I’d miss out on a lot of intelligent theories, and not just the hocus-pocus of those who come up with a conclusion, then shape the arguments to match. I’d miss some real stats, and some news items others have found and posted. Maybe if I’ve offended someone with my complaints, it is THAT PERSON who should stop reading the comments!

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Bingo!!!!

    “Ibanez is absolutely no worse that Burrell was in left”

    I have been saying sort of that same thing for MONTHS now, but people like Dipsy want to continuously criticize his defense. I would agree that he’s not the BEST defensive left-fielder in the history of the game. ……But he’s at least as good….IF NOT BETTER……than Pat was out there.

    ——-

    Everyone just needs to calm down and enjoy the season. The Phillies are what??….two games out…..everything will work itself out.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan H.

    when happ is ready to go, it’s bye bye for Kendrick. Happ is much much better than KK. KK is not a major league caliber pitcher and never will be. he could be a fifth starter for milwaukee. but not for a good team like the phils. Happ bumps him out immediately when he’s ready to come back.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Except that KK has had some REALLY good outings this season. You don’t just say “bye bye” to someone who has contributed like that to the rotation.

    If anything, I would think that Happ would be eased back into his role, maybe as a long-man/spot-starter. When he is ready, and/if KK really falters….then make the switch and let KK work out of the pen.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I really respect what Kendrick’s done this year but ultimately I think the Phils have to find a bullpen role for him or create a market for him because in that 5th starters role almost everyone wants to see the next guy be it by trade or a call-up. Happ is too good a starting pitcher to bounce to the pen.

    Ibanez is getting a raw deal in Philly and has been since the day he signed. So many Philly fans in all of the sports want the star and nothing else is acceptable. Ibanez was brought in to be a consistent presence in left and he’s done that, he’s been both great and terrible in 18 months but he takes the field and we know he’s a hard worker. When you have stability you can let your biggest and best run wild and thats what the Gillick/Amaro Phillies have built.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    Ibanez is better both offensively and defensively than Pat Burrell at this point in Burrell’s career. Pat has not played the outfield consistently for near one and a half years, and he really was never very good out there.

    I believe Rollins is breaking down. SOme injuries, like back soft tissue injuries, joint injuries and large muscle injuries are more suseptable after an initial injury. Rollins has already had a relapse of his calf muscle. There is a good chance this will become chronic. Hopefully, I am wrong, but I don’t think so.

    The Phillies will have a very, very good upcoming road trip because they are a solid road team historically and everyone expects them to perform pooly on the road. I belive they may show a contrarian posture . Tgat us just a hunch.

    Respectfully,

    Bart Shart

     
  • Posts: 0 Phan in the outfield

    George & Chuck: I’m with you both re: Ibanez hitting better & being defensively equal to Burrell. I’m just guessing, but I think the difference for fans is strictly personalities. Burrell was more openly juvenile in his public behavior. Ibanez is a family type & quieter. For whatever reason Burrell embodied that phrase: Women want him, and men want to be him. I never understood the thing people had for Burrell and still don’t. Ibanez is just a nice guy.

    That June ’09 slump was a doozie. Someone should look it up. Brrr. I don’t want to.

    Re: JRoll last night was at a bar, watching the Flyers with ‘up-one-day-down-the-next’ Victorino, Crash Francisco, and an Eagles offensive lineman. He works out with the Phillies today, Clearwater tomorrow. Kick-A-Metal-Chair Happ? Well he was at the Flyers game, beer in both fists, and NOT wearing a support boot for his broken toe. I don’t begrudge them a night out. Have fun. But if you’re in pain this doesn’t look great. That’s all.

    I’m not one for pulling Domonic Brown up yet. However, when we do I think he’ll replace Ibanez. Brown isn’t Werthian. In the meantime, I very much look forward to Werth finding a way to Zen-out the press, the fans, and apparently his own manager, so he can find his way through the muck that is this slump. When he’s playing well, there are few who are better, and few who help the team as much.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    He’s too good a starting pitcher to ultimately be in the pen….but I like the idea of him easing back into his roster spot. Especially if KK is pitching well when Happ returns.

    I agree that in the long term that KK should either be a bullpen guy…or maybe moved….but right now he is needed here. And Blanton hasn’t exactly been stellar. So you need as many decent arms as possible.

    I am sure it will all work itself out.

    And to whoever made the comment above about Hamels having “nothing left” and that he should be moved out of the rotation once Happ returns…. Maybe you should look at his line on most of his starts before you shoot off your mouth like that. Get your facts straight.
    Hamels has flat-out dominated in several of his starts (how about his last one where he got ZERO run support?)

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Defensively, Raul >>>>>> Pat. Not even close. Pat was atrocious.

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Ofensively, Raul >>>>> Pat, as well.

    So stop bitc*ing. Didn’t he just hit 4 for 5 in his last game? Give the guy a break.

     
  • Posts: 0 Georgie

    Wasn’t it Madson who kicked the chair? Happ didn’t kick anything, did he?

     
  • Posts: 0 grr

    Happ was quoted in the inquirer today that his elbow felt fine – yet I thought that he went on the dl with forearm tightness??? Perhaps this topic has already been widely discussed, but is this reason for greater concern than what has been divulged by the phils front office even if happ is back and rehabbing?

     
 
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