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I dont know if I’d go that far Jeff – but at the end of the game you had what we could hope for. Sure, we are behind but the bases loaded and the big man at the plate.

This is soo frustrating.

Pat you said Cole never had the opportunity to pitch himself back into a win but you didn’t say why. I believe Tim Hudson had the same hour wait, he is an older pitcher and pitched, 5 more effective innings. Did Charlie tell Cole he was through thus wasting 8 innings of the bulpen that could have been used tommorrow? Or did Cole after just 24 pitches decide to call it a day? Now Kendrick will have to go long because there isn’t much pen help to use.

Tim Hudson’s previous start was cut short because of rain, too. He pitched 4 runs. There was no way they would’ve taken him out after just one inning tonight.

Plus, I think Charlie will now rearrange the rotation by letting Cole pitch two or three days from today…

wazzup guys, just wanted to say mets win phills lose.

Lefty, a pitcher gets a loss if he gives up the go-ahead run and his team never comes back to tie the game, regardless of the eventual score.

And, according to phillies.com and all other reports I’ve heard, Charlie made the decision on not sending Cole back out there after the rain delay. Cole wanted to pitch. Hopefully Manny’s right and they reshuffle the rotation, maybe Hamels Saturday night and Moyer Sunday afternoon to exploit their day/night splits.

I am going to say this and probably piss a lot of people off but I will say it anyway, if this continues much longer I think Charlie might need to be let go. Milt should already have been fired but clearly that didn’t happen. I have never been a Charlie guy. There is no one who can tell me that the guy has a great strategic mind because he doesn’t but Jimy Williams being on the bench helped out with those short falls. I was willing to give Charlie the benefit of the doubt because the team was winning and by all accounts his players love him and play for him. But after a while it seems that in most sports, the players just stop responding, the coaches message just doesn’t get through anymore. Maybe this time is now for Charlie and the Phillies. Charlie is supposed to be a hitting guy so how can this team, a team with 4 all stars in last nights line up and 2 more injured only score 13 runs in its last 10 games? How does that happen? Supposedly Charlie had a meeting with the team a few games ago but it does not seemed to have made a difference.

I do think this team will snap out of it, maybe its because I trying against all I am to be optimistic about this, because this team has earned that but at the same time, how much longer do we to continue to watch this joke for baseball?

As for Cole, if Charlie told Cole he wasn’t going back in the game then I have to question that as well? I don’t see a reason Cole couldn’t go back out there and see what he can do? Is it really worth destroying the bullpen like we did just to protect Cole? I really hope that Cole didn’t tell Charlie he didn’t want to come back, if that is the case and that somehow gets out, cross me off the list of Hamels fans and supporters because I will never root for a me first guy. Ever.

Jeff…why should anyone calm down about Cole? If, Cole decided he didn’t want to go back in, which as of now, reports say is not the case, but if he did say that, then it wouldn’t be the first time he put himself before the team. I will forever be grateful for what he did for this team in helping them(carrying them) to a World Series, but I want no part of guys who put themselves ahead of the team.

I lived in MA from 95-05. In the 90′s, the internet was all dial up, didn’t have a ton of content, so I primarily followed the BoSox, got what I could on the Phils. Williams was the manager in Boston through the late 90′s. He’s a great teacher and strategist, but not a very good manager (more Earl Weaver than Sparky Anderson), more suited for a coach.
The hitting coach gets too much credit for how guys perform (good or bad).

While I realize that Charlie has his faults, I believe he is the best manager for this team (and by the way, he is the most successful manager in Phillies history). He is managing for the season, not for the game. It was the right call to pull Cole with the long wait (leaving in Hudson may bite Cox later in the season – poor pun intended).
Right now, the team is playing two starters that are at replacement level, are relying on two guys to perform routinely who are streak players (Vic and Werth), plus Utley looks hurt (but would never say so, nor take himself out of the line-up). While hitting, Howard is in a power draught (until last night), and Ibanez is chugging along at 0.250 (doing ok, but not carrying the team like he did last spring). All that, and they are only 1-1/2 games back.

Keep it close until Polanco comes back, then rest Utley (hopefully it isn’t a major injury). If the freefall continues into July, then start to worry, think about tinkering. The Braves aren’t going to keep up this pace, and no one else in the division is really capable of putting together an extended streak.

It’s not fun to watch right now, but we lit up Lowe the last two times we faced him. The slump ends tonight.

No offense but this, Phillies struggle during interleague is garbage. The Phillies are 1-2 vs the AL and 4-9 vs the NL during their current 16 game slump.

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