Gameday: Phillies (48-44) at Cardinals (52-41)
Posted by Michael Baumann, Tue, July 20, 2010 07:24 PM | Comments: 118
2010 Gameday, Posts
Philadelphia Phillies (48-44) at St. Louis Cardinals (52-41)
Jamie Moyer, LHP (9-9, 4.88 ERA) vs. Chris Carpenter, RHP (10-3, 3.16 ERA)
Time: 8:15 p.m., Busch Stadium
Weather: Mostly Sunny, 90
TV: WPHL
Twitter: @PhilliesNation
This has not, suffice it to say, been a particularly enjoyable post-All Star Game road trip for the team from Philadelphia. After the rotation’s youngest starter got roughed up so bad the Phillies sent him to Siberia Allentown, the rotation’s oldest starter will try to right the ship for a team that was expected to come screaming out of the gate, but instead has lost four of five. Jamie Moyer’s prospects don’t look good–opposing him is Chris Carpenter, the 6-foot-6 righty with a Cy Young and three All-Star appearances under his belt, and a deserved reputation as one of the toughest pitchers in the game to hit. So there that is.
I know it’s been a rough couple days for the Phillies, with getting blasted back-to-back nights on national TV, with Jayson Werth’s social capital disintegrating before our very eyes. But in this Cardinals team that’s surely about to curb-stomp the Phillies into a precarious position in the standings, we can take solace. If our team is going to lose, it’s going to lose to a thrilling veteran pitcher and (possibly) the best baseball player we’ll ever see. So let’s take some comfort in that.
TRADE UPDATE, 7:49: If you haven’t heard, the rumor mill is churning at its fastest pace so far this summer. According to Jim Salisbury, Roy Oswalt is a very hot name being linked to the Phillies, as are Dan Haren and possibly James Shields. A trade tweeted by Rob Kuestner of CSNPhilly.com is Roy Oswalt to Philly, Jayson Werth to an unnamed team, with that unnamed club sending prospects back to Houston.
Phillies Lineup: Rollins (SS), Polanco (3B), Ibanez (LF), Howard (1B), Werth (RF), Victorino (LF), Ruiz (C), Valdez (2B), Moyer (P)
Your Gameday Beer – Heavy Busch in Duck Hunter Camo
This is sort of stealing from Pat’s recommendation yesterday, but while this beer originates in St. Louis, I was introduced to it in South Carolina. When I was in college, I drank some pisswater Anheuser-Busch products (Bud Light with lime, Natty Light, Busch Ice, King Cobra, etc.), but this one, camouflaged Heavy Busch, was my favorite. I’ve only ever been shooting once and didn’t hit a damned thing, but drinking a beer that was trying to hide from me was absurd enough to be at least temporarily amusing. Gan bei. -by Michael
GO PHILS!
Posts: 0 Repeat
Moyer will be tonites WP. Then Jesus will take us all to Pizza Hut to celebrate. Book it!
Posted: 07:35 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 BurrGundy
I hope Moyer has a nice big strike zone and Ryan Howard had a nice lunch with his folks and feels real good.
Posted: 07:49 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 The Dipsy
This thing could get ugly early. Check your 9:00 p.m. time slots for alternate programming.
The Dipsy
Posted: 07:59 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
“A trade tweeted by Rob Kuestner of CSNPhilly.com is Roy Oswalt to Philly, Jayson Werth to an unnamed team, with that unnamed club sending prospects back to Houston.”
Is this for real???
Posted: 08:21 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 ChuckS
God I hope so
Posted: 08:22 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Adam
Hell of an at-bat jimmy just put together. One pitch and a pop-up. Great work and a great start. Is this team intentionally trying to infuriate us? Three pitches two outs.
Posted: 08:23 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
So, no righty bat?
huh? I thought our problem was the offense, not pitching! (as J-roll gets out on the 1st pitch) Oh well… we’ll have to wait and see…
Posted: 08:24 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Adam
Ibanez working the count before inevitably grounding out to second base
Posted: 08:24 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
wtf jimmy!!!!!
Posted: 08:25 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 BurrGundy
Frankly, I am going to say something unpopular: I think Jimmy Rollins time in this city is coming to an end.
Posted: 08:25 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 jt
jimmy doing what he does best,swinging at the first pitch…he’ll never learn plate disipline…now lets see if jamie can have a good outing…
Posted: 08:27 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
1 pitch
1 out for the imomparable J Moy
Lets be positive and lets win this one
Posted: 08:27 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 ChuckS
I don’t see Jimmy coming back in 2012
Posted: 08:28 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
Oswalt has a contract that’s a bit expensive.. but he’s contract runs through 2011 (or 2012 with a club option).
Halladay-Hamels-Oswalt would be quite the playoff rotation… but could we even get there without Werth? (I know he’s slumping big time, but he WILL come around and he’s the only righty bat we got!)
Why couldn’t Dom Brown be right-handed!!! Ugh
Posted: 08:28 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Adam
May be unpopular but it is dead true. He is gone after next season without a doubt. He has been a pretty average to pathetic hitter since his MVP season.
Posted: 08:28 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Ajay
Manny: Look at Brown’s platoon splits though. He can rake against RHP and LHP.
Posted: 08:31 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
..in Triple A
Posted: 08:31 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
hell trade jimmy 2……
Posted: 08:31 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 ChuckS
Starting pitching wins baseball games, period. If the phils can get Oswalt they without giving up any prospect they should.
Posted: 08:32 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Ajay
Yeah. And in the majors someday ;-)
Posted: 08:32 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
You are right, Ajay… my main concern with Brown would be all the pressure he’d have to produce big time (fill in Werth’s shoes).
But you go around the league and see Buster Posey hitting cleaning up for the Giants, and he’s doing a terrific job.. Ditto for Heyward, etc
Posted: 08:33 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Jeff
Moyer will be the man tonight. Leave JRoll alone. He is a great ball player. Trade rumors are growing. Roy will be here for Saturday, his next sked start. I hope werth is gone. We need to move him.
Posted: 08:35 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
Two Roys!? Holy crap!
Posted: 08:36 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Ajay
Absolutely right, Manny. I don’t want that pressure on him either. But if it’s that or not getting Oswalt/Haren, I say bring him up.
Posted: 08:36 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
if they trade werth does brown automatically come up??
Posted: 08:38 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
or will they just stick ben out there……
Posted: 08:39 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Adam
I think Moyer is hurt. Insert Andrew Carpenter. Can anyone actually confirm this Oswalt thing? Is Oswalt much of a hitter?
Posted: 08:40 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
He IS the NO.1 prospect in all baseball… and he seems to have the right mental make-up…
(I’m trying to brain wash myself as I’ve said multiple times on here that trading Werth is a definite NO. But if you ask me what could make this team better in 2010: Dom Brown and Roy Oswalt OR J Werth, then I guess Brown+Oswalt has the bigger potential to shake things up and get this season under control.) Plus, you’d get a solid pitcher for 2 more years instead of 2 high draft picks.
Posted: 08:40 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Georgie
Ruben said on DNL today that Dom is not coming up now, he’s not ready yet, Ruben said he “doesn’t feel comfortable with bringing him up right now, he only has 60 at bats in AAA”.
Posted: 08:41 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Bad luck for Shane.
OK ill say it first
Werth has been getting some hits lately and taking walks.
Needs a couple with men in scoring postion and he may be back.
Thats 11 hits and 6 walks in the last 10 games
Posted: 08:42 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Carpeter vs carpenter
Wheels said what a brilliant move by the phils to bring up Carpenter today LOL
Posted: 08:43 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Bobby D
Well there goes Moyer. Did Kendrick leave for Lehigh yet?
Posted: 08:44 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Watch Andrew pick this team up.
Due for something like that
Posted: 08:45 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
IF they trade werth i dont think brown comes up…..
Posted: 08:45 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
Just gotta say this: One of the things I really like about the NL is that every now and then you get pitchers in key spots, getting key hits. Myers 2008 (his historic walk, his 3-3 in Game 2 of the NLCS). Lee 2009 (those doubles to CF were just too cool and I miss them).
I really miss those moments.. they’re somewhat magical, and they have the potential to ignite a rally at any given time (if the pitcher can hit, why can’t I?).
Posted: 08:45 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
Jay “Phillyboy” then who do you think would replace him??? Frisco?? That would be a huge downgrade (though not that noticeable –for now– since Werth is being horrible at the plate).
Posted: 08:47 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 phils
what happened to moyer he looked out after the first inning? :S heat got to him already?
Posted: 08:48 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
I DID NOTICE THAT MOYER’S FASTBALL WAS AT 74 SO HE MUST BE HURT……
Posted: 08:48 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
Didn’t even realize Moyer was out! Wtf happened! Now they’re gonna ask us for MORE in a potential deal cause they know we need someone…
Hope he’s OK.
Posted: 08:50 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-"PHILLYBOY"
MANNY I WANT BROWN CALLED UP,JUST DONT SEE PHILLIES DOING IT………
Posted: 08:50 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Jeff
tampa really wants werth. james shields maybe. maybe werth goes to tampa and they send prospects to houston and we get roy.
Posted: 08:52 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 "PHILLYBOY"
I REALLY,REALLY WANT BROWN CALLED UP!!!!
Posted: 08:52 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Manny the AL is so boring with the DH
No strategy whatsoever. who really likes that more?
Posted: 08:53 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
If Carpenter walks Valdez, I’m gonna CRACK UP
Posted: 08:53 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
//cracking up
Too bad Mr. Bunting Expert (MOYER) isn’t in the game anymore.. hopefully Carpenter can do the job.
Posted: 08:55 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
NICE heads-up play WilsOOOOOOON!
Posted: 08:56 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
I concur. AL SUCKS.
Posted: 08:57 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Phils 1 hit and 2 GIDP so far
On a positive note…
carpenter been looking good
ours along with thiers
Posted: 08:59 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 phils
great double play on 2-0 WHY HIT JIMMY WHY BE PATIENT
Posted: 09:00 PM on July 20, 2010
Posts: 0 Manny
I don’t who’s worse right now.. J-roll or Werth…
Posted: 09:13 PM on July 20, 2010