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Trade werth now while you can get something good in return!!!!

On my way to the BF Bridge I stopped at a store for what was to be my last beer.: and this store had aVanilla Coke. Just 1. Do u have idea how long Ive been looking for one of these? Ages. Its a sign. This phils sqad have one more run in them.

The beat goes on.
By the trading deadline the Phils may well be sellers not buyers. Luckily the Mets arent in the picture. But the Braves are and I thnk the Reds and Cards are good enough to make the playoffs too. Cant fall behind that many teams. I am already focused on the wild card though. The Braves are kings of the east again its easy to see.

LOOK DON M NORMALLY I AM THE LAST TO GET DOWN WHEN IT COMES TO THE PHILLIES.THAT BEING SAID THIS TEAM IS IN TROUBLE!!THEY ARE PLAYING WITH NO HEART,MAKING STUPID MISTAKES,NOT HITTING AT ALL,I MEAN WHEN ANOTHER TEAM GETS UP ON THEM,ITS LIKE GAMEOVER!!!TEAM NEEDS SOMETHING TO WAKE THEM UP,MAYBE A TRADE OF ONE OF THE STARTERS WILL DO IT.

Dobbs might have been 2 for 4 hit-wise but he stranded 4 runners and did not come through with the sacks loaded. Manuel’s name needs to be right up there along with Moyer’s name for the Jeltz Award. Failed to relieve Moyer in the 6th inning of a very important game when Moyer started getting into trouble and the Braves were getting to him. Do not know who Manuel could have gone to or whether or not the bullpen would have held Atlanta off but you have to give it a shot in that situation that Moyer was in with the Braves coming on.

I’ve been trying to stay as optimistic as you robert, but it may just not be the phillies year. Even the yankees missed the playoffs in 08. Why? Injuries. It just wasn’t their year. They came back and won the series last year. Sure we all know what this team is capable of, but there is a chance that we may not see the phillies manifest that calibre of play this season. Best case scenario is that we stick around long enough to make a late run. This team will be back and in contention again in 2011. Hopefully dominic brown will be everything that we expect and really infuse some young talent into the lineup. Outfield could look much different next year. The hallday/hamels one two will be in tact, and remember that hamels is still young and improving. 08 was amazing but guys figured him out and he has had to redefine his pitching. His changeup is still nasty, he just needs one more good out pitch. It could be his cutter or he can figure his breaking ball out. Infield will be together as well. Assuming everyone stays healthy we will have another run at it.

Isnt b mcn 1/15 vs n was lk 9/26 vs moyer? Was he unavlb? Injs isnt the only reason. These hts hv too much lway to do there own thing. Evn the bench/jmen. Just tk a lk at cst/vld/bup cth. THey have hit mr hrs in 2wks than tr entr lives. N now they cnt buy a hit for the most part.

Hey Shane you better be careful………and stop being such a girl and get thicker skin your hitting .251…..

Victorino: “I’m hearing fans yell you’re horrible. You stink. They’re quick to forget what happened in the last two years……that frustrates me more than anything, listening to that stuff… it eats at you.”

I’m not a big Victorino fan, but one thing I will say in his defense – he is not soft. Agree with Repeat! (although I’m too old to understand half his shorthand) – too many drunk “fans” hide in the crowd, hoping for something bad to happen so they can boo. Also agree that vanilla coke is delicious.

Howard is the most complete player he has ever been in his career – with the exception of his inability to throw to 2nd base, all other criticism is unwarranted. It’s hard to get rbis when no one is on base in front of you. Ibanez is showing some nice plate discipline in the 3 hole, Howard has been hot, about to completely break out.

Moyer and Charlie mentioned that the swagger is missing, but for the first time in a while, last night I though we had a shot at coming back. Looking forward to the Reds series, a few guys look like they are starting to get angry.

6 games out in July, not ready to throw the towel in yet. Durbin, Madson, and Chooch will be back soon. Rollins needs the abs to get his eye/swing right – but its coming.

From Phillies.com “Fans frustrate Victorino, seeking support” There appears to be a major typo- it should read “Victorino frustrates Fans.”

“For countless years in and around Philadelphia, we didn’t have a fun team like this to watch. ” Are you talking about the Flyers playoff run? Because the Phillies have been incredibly boring to watch this year. They rarely if ever comeback on teams. I can only think of 2 games this year in which the took they won the game while trailing in the 9th, one in San Fran and other week against Cleveland. It’s rare that you get an exhilirating game. It seems like if they are trailing in the 5th, the game is pretty much over. They have been shut out 8 times. They have not won back to back games in over 2 weeks.

Good afternoon Phillie phans!!! Im so glad to see that you all agree….

First off. if yall hate victorino, we will be glad to have him, we would trade you melky and mcclouth.

Second, if you really want to get rid of Worth, we will take him too, we would trade Hinske and Diaz, no waith nevermind HInske is our walk off hitter and Diaz is our Phillie crusher better hang on to them how bout T. Saito and Kawakami?!? Those are two quality pictchers.

Anyway, thank you again for a series win, and I really hope that your second baseman never returns!!! Have a great day!

Much Love,

From Atlanta GO BRAVES BELIEVE 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILL TAKE CHARLIE MANUEL TO!!! AFTER BOBBY RETIRES OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When they did a close up of Jamie’s face in the 2nd or 3rd inning, he looked genuinely unhealthy. Like, “call an ambulance” unhealthy. Of course, that’s probably how I look when I’m walking up a slight incline, and I’m 20 years younger than him.

This is why athletes have hated Philadelphia fans for years ….

and why I defended what Jimmy Rollins said 2-3 years ago when he called our fans frontrunners ..

I think from what i’ve been reading: If the Phillies don’t make the playoffs this year, they suck? And Manuel should be fired? …

REALLY??

Maybe fans needs to look into baseball, realize there are other teams out there that improved from last year, and so this year, with all our injuries, the playoffs just might not be in the plans… and I guess i’ll be one of the few that still loves them more than ever because they’re the “Phillies” .. not just because they’re the “NL CHAMPION Phillies”

Don M, I know what you mean. This is why I have been saying it’s okay to recognize that maybe we don’t make the playoffs this year. If we do that though, we need to make savvy moves so we are playing for the future, not just some endless denial that this year is a failure if we don’t make the playoffs.

I’m not saying that we should trade Werth because I hate him and I don’t want to see him as a Phillie. I’m saying trade Werth because having developing prospects is something we really need right now as opposed to the uncertainty of draft picks.

Sometimes the best move is not the most popular. Amaro needs to buckle down and make some hard choices before it’s too late.

Look, we all know the Phillies are in trouble. It doesen’t mean they are done. I just hope that they can fight back.

Don M, if it becomes clear that they are not going to be contenders in late July (14, 15 games back), wouldn’t you consider trading Werth? I would because if they are not going to get to the playoffs, then they might as well get some established prospects for him than draft picks.

We can’t trade Werth.

I have to say that’s the most idiotic thing I’ve seen. Stupidest thing we could do. Trading Werth–and getting rid of our only dangerous right-handed bat–means we’re giving up on this season. (If we trade an OF, it has to be Victorino–though I’d hate to see that.)

And you don’t give up on a season when your team is within 2-3 games of the wild card. Even a six-game deficit isn’t impossible. Stranger things have happened. THere’s still a lot of baseball left.

WIth this team’s track record, you can’t give up. This team is built to win now. If we lose Werth in the offseason, so be it. We can find another RH bat. But right now, in this season, we need him.

If this team gets healthy and can sneak into the playoffs in the wild card, watch out. Anything can happen in the postseason, especially with the Phils track record and how the offense can get hot.

Is it going to happen? I don’t know. They might miss the playoffs.

But you show me a healthy Phillies team that’s hot in Sept. and wins the wild card and I’ll show you a team that no one in the NL wants to face in a playoff series….

Hey Chuck……We all know you love Howard. Let people complain about Howard if they want to. We all see him differently than you. You continuously go to bat for him like a loving daughter. Take a break already. He is a great ballplayer. Ruben Amaro is to blame for signing him a year early and for too long a time frame. We know what this will do to this team in terms of making moves in the future. SOOOOOO, we use Big Brown as an example. Take it easy and calm down. Don’t blow your wad on this. It’s just baseball. Do you wear a Howard jersey ?

And Chuck………..we know you don’t get it..never will. so chill. Some people can’t do trigonometry.

…and some people can’t even spell it.

Howard is truly a great guy. Most of us just care about his on-field performance and are not emotionally connected to the ballplayer. They loved Iverson and he was a thug. They loved Ted Williams and he was a nasty bastard, They loved Steve Carlton and he was a self-centered douchbag, they loved Dykstra and Rose and they were mentally ill jerks. It is alllll about what happens between the lines. Howard is not going to host a kids show. If he were, you would be watching it, I’m sure.

I think Ryan Howard has a better chance of hosting a kids show than Lenny Dykstra.

And to be clear about it….I’m not “emotionally connected” to him either. But I like the fact that he’s NOT a douchebag.

Ryan Howard, I think, truly appreciates what he’s been able to accomplish and for what the Phillies have done for him. He should. They are paying him a lot of money.

And just to clarify one more thing….I wasn’t for the big contract right away either. Waiting might have made more sense. Or maybe it wouldn’t have. We really won’t know for a few years. Maybe when it’s all said and done $25 M a season will end up being a bargain.

in the big picture…. I truly appreciate your loyalty. I just see things differently. And I am sorry to jump on you, but you do jump on others. The truth be told, you add a lot to this blog and I always read and ususally agree with what you say. Personally, I am so pissed with Amaro for this early contract upgrade for soo much money. So much can happen and we had all of next year to deal. It is not Howard’s fault. He is one of my favorite players, as well. I think a lot of us care way too much about our team and show our frustrations differently. Have a good day and let’s hope Kendrick pitches well tonight and we score some runs off a tough Reds pitcher. I’ll be at the game either cheering wildly or crying in my beer.