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Kyle did get a few lucky breaks saw a few pitches that could of been hit that he got away with. Notice he was going inside a little more…Lil simplified view but i think if he can avoid the long ball as much he may one day make a serviceable 5th Starter….

I haven’t said one thing about the cliff lee trade, it happened and I just let it go, but now I think I’m going to… Now I might be jumping the gun here but we trade a pitcher we desperately need to get jc ramirez among others as we know, and now we might trade one. Boy for amaro’s sake I really hope it pays off.

Oliver Perez sighting. He takes the loss in the 13th for the Mess.
12th time this year the mighty Mess have lost in their opponents final at bat. Getting Beltran back has really sparked them.

Fox Sports and MLBTR reportin Phillies very interested in Haren. Dback interested in jon singleton. a reason jc ramirez was scratched tomorrow for monday was because two starts he threw a lot of pitches and then struggled in his last start. therefore he was given an extra day, but u never know…. Phils very interested in haren folks…….

The Phillies continue to talk about Jayson Werth with other teams, as they have for weeks.

It’s the sort of thing that raises antennae at this time of year.
Phillies pitching prospect J.C. Ramirez was scratched from Sunday’s start with the Reading Phillies. The team said he will pitch Monday instead.
No official explanation was given.
Maybe the reason is very simple: Ramirez ran up a high pitch count while throwing eight innings in a July 15 start. He took his regular turn the next time and struggled. Perhaps the Phillies simply want him to get additional rest before taking the mound again.
Or maybe the move was trade-related.
The Phillies are known to be speaking with the Diamondbacks about right-handed starter Dan Haren — and the Astros regarding Roy Oswalt. They are also open to trading everyday right fielder Jayson Werth.

The Yankees and Phillies, opponents in the World Series last year, are both in pursuit of Arizona right-hander Dan Haren, sources said Saturday.

•It is possible that the Phillies will trade Jayson Werth in order to get the prospects necessary to land Haren, according to Jon Paul Morosi and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Alternatively, the D’Backs could take advantage where the Phillies’ farm system is strongest: its lower levels. Arizona is said to have interest in one single-A player in particular, 18-year-old slugger Jonathan Singleton.

Ahh yes, the old “he threw a lot of pitches in his last two starts.” They are definitely up to something, and soon…I am still thinking that Oswalt would be absolutely mad to pass up a chance to come here and team up with Halladay and Hamels. Should the Phillies make the playoffs, which they absolutely still can if they keep hitting like they did today, that threesome would be devastating in a playoff series.

I was there today, protected from the sun under the overhang in section 125, still brutal out there though, But they were excellent today. Rollins looked healthy and aggressive. Howards triple was awesome, he smoked the ball down the line and booked it to third. Kendrick was very good today as well. Worley has something there for the future.

The Phillies need to land a big starter. Getting players healthy and in their normal positions and slots in the lineup again will resolve the offensive issues. They have all the bats they will need to win another world series, it just a matter of getting it sorted out again.

Brown will help, as it looks like someone will bite on Werth and give us what we need to move him. Starting with Happ, Singleton, and someone like Gose – thats a good start to a package of players that would land us the likes of Haren or Oswalt. Perhaps Freddy Galvis as well. We still have great prospects, especially in the lower levels.

They can get it right again and get back to the playoffs. Have a little Phaith. The law of averages will take over now that people are coming back healthy to the lineup. They are superior hitters, and they will start to get the results again now. Polanco was also outstanding playing his old position at second base.

I personally prefer Oswalt, but Dan Haren is an excellent pitcher and would slot in well at the third starting place in the rotation, still very scary in a playoff series – Halladay, Hamels, Haren. The idea of Hallday, Hamels, Oswalt would be a nightmare for opposing hitters though.

I was thinking myself. Watch the Marlins end up the main competetion.
As always I completely disregard the mets.
Jerry Manueal is 170-174 now for his career. Lets just hope he stays as long as possible. He is good with the media thats whats important in NYC.
Id be thrilled to have Haren.

•The Phillies could swing a three-way trade involving Jayson Werth in order to land Oswalt, writes Ed Price of Fanhouse. Earlier tonight, we learned that the Phillies could also use Werth to get the prospects needed to land Dan Haren.

I would hate to see the Phillies give up Happ and Singleton in a trade. It has been said that Singleton has great potential for the future.

Singleton is 18 and he’s most likely a first baseman so trade high. Not sold on a starter if happ is in the deal. Glad to see the club hitting, but I’d love an infield bat and a bp arm. Being real gm is a lot harder than a side bar gm. Oswalt doesn’t want to be here so pass. Haren not having a great year, but the stuff is there. Ugh. Bye bye mutts.

Oswalt gave up 6 runs and 9 hits to the Reds today in 5 innings. Do we really want this guy in the starting rotation in Philly? Has been hit hard on occasion this season. Decent ERA but I think Haren would be a better option.

I don’t know why the team wants to trade Werth. If he heats up, he could really carry the team.

I think the NL should be worried, I think the Phils are about to go on a nice run. (knock on wood) They are overdue, and it seems like something sparked them.

Sorry to see Milt go, but maybe that is what they needed?

I see the record George but Kendrick gets hit out the ball park. I meant a serviceable 4th/5th starter on a winning team….Yea why does everyone seem to want to get rid of Happ John I ask myself that same question..more importantly why do a lot of team show interest in him…The kid has great potential no one seems to have the patience to let him bounce back from his injury….I read that Werth was offered a contract by the Phils but didnt accept it yet….Riccaboni you have a point…just that Victorino is out there hacking like a double A player instead of taking at bats like a Major League Player….I think Werth is starting to come around..PS…I think Haren makes more sense than Osawalt…

While this offensive explosion is a positive thing, I’m going to remain skeptical until they can score like this on a regular basis. I’m terrified that tomorrow they’re going to get shut out, then they’ll only score 1 the next two games. That’s how the season has been, sadly. I hope they prove me wrong.

No, let’s NOT try to move Raul Ibanez. The guy’s been quietly tearing it up with walks and timely hits.

Why is everyone so eager to give up Happ?

I don’t think ANYONE is eager to give him up. It’s just that to get quality, you have to trade quality.

I fear that Happ might be one of those injury-prone types. So far in his career, he’s been disabled twice with basically the same forearm issue. That’s one reason it took him a long time to get to the majors.

Also, if one believes in those more arcane sabermetric stats, they simply don’t support a consistent sub 3.00 ERA.

While I’d be perfectly happy having a healthy Happ, I wouldn’t feel that way if his arm proves fragile and he misses time nearly every year. His value is currently pretty high (although I think today’s start might make or break a possible deal) so it might be the best time to get someone for him.

Happ was actually 27 at the end of his rookie year. Sorry for the small error. I misread the month; mostly just saw the 1982 date.

•Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets that the Phillies, as opposed to the Dodgers and Cards, are best positioned to acquire Oswalt if they move Jayson Werth. However, Rosenthal hears from an executive that Philadelphia’s demands in a Werth deal appear to be changing daily.

The Phillies, according to an official of an American League team, are determined to acquire Dan Haren or Roy Oswalt.
The official expects a Phillies deal to involve a third team that would acquire outfielder Jayson Werth.

•In an update for FOX Sports, Rosenthal says the Astros are having trouble matching up with the Cardinals and Dodgers, leaving the Phillies as the most logical suitor. However, in a pair of tweets, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports that the Phils are exploring the possibility of swapping Werth directly for a starter if they can’t work out a deal for Oswalt or Dan Haren.

I didnt know the dipsy was management. Now I feel bad for every time I called him out.
Why discourage people trying to help the site out?

I mean its 2 minutes to game start and there is no game day thread.

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