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Easier to say now, but we should had traded Werth for replenish the farm system in the beginning of the year rather than Lee and then D Brown would had a whole year in the majors, which he showed in spring training he was ready for. We wouldn’t be stuck in this predicament then. At this point we should just give up on Oswalt and just work with what we got.

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I ment him not me

Oswalt thinks he has control but he doesn’t. He did drop his requirement that the team he gets traded to pick up his 2012 option, Corey. Not that I think any team would have picked it up. I think Roy knows that if he starts making things too difficult, the Astros may not be able to trade him. And Roy wants out (despite the posturing) and Ed Wade, if not the owner, wants him gone. Trading Oswalt to St. Louis doesn’t make sense for Houston since they are in the same division. I think if Ruben waits Wade out, he could get him for Happ plus a couple of fair to midland prospects (Carpenter, Mathieson, Savery, etc) instead of a Cosart, Worley type.

The Dipsy

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Corey does not like Roy Oswalt. Neither do I. He’ll be 33 this year and to me, does not even closely resemble one of the top NL pitchers as he once was.

His salary demands, his back problems – too much money to invest for what we don’t know is still a quality product.

I’d say leave it alone now and I believe that Ruben will not pursuit this option or he already would have sealed the deal.

Oswalt is appearing to be a b***h just like Jake Peavy was being when the trade rumors swirled around him. I say pass on Oswalt since he won’t be able to handle it here. Maybe look for a another Blanton type starter.

This post was beyond brilliant and I got a good laugh out of the last few ‘items’ on the list.

There is no doubt that a hallday-hamels-oswalt rotation would be a kick ass 1 2 3 punch. Now if someone like Halladay, or even Hamels made these demands, I could see it. Regardless of the way things have been going for us the past month or so, the Phillies are still THE team to beat. 3 NL championships in a row. 2 world series runs in a row. The way I see it, oswalt simply doesn’t care about winning big time. And doesn’t want to deal with the scrutiny of winning big time (I.e. Major media market). So I say screw him.

I find it hilarious he has this holier-than-thou attitude, but all signs point to him not wanting to win. The team is getting their feet back on the ground. Why bring someone who blatantly doesn’t want to be here and screw negatively with the chemistry of the already solid foundation?

All of these so-called “demands” could just be posturing on the part of Oswalt. How could ANY player be labeled as someone that doesn’t “want to win”?? I think that IF Oswalt were to come here he would get caught up really fast in the winning and competitive atmosphere here.

Why is my comment awaiting moderation? I have said nothing wrong.

Lilly in CBP would be a disaster; he’s a flyball pitcher whose velocity has dropped.

I think a lot of Oswalt’s “demands” are posturing. They seem to change daily. First he said the option had to be picked up; then he said the contract could be restructured. First he said Philadelphia was out, then he said location didn’t matter. It’s possible that if he whines enough, Houston management will be forced to lower their ridiculous asking price, and he can then actually be traded. For what the Astros are currently demanding, no GM in his right mind would deal.

Despite seeming to be a wuss with a bad back and bad attitude, Oswalt does still have some nasty stuff and a good idea of how to use it. He’s pitched in some real pennant races, and could be quite valuable. If the Phils could get him without picking up the option, and without giving up a boatload of talent, he might fit in better than his contradictory statements would seem to indicate.

I’m thinking, too, that sportswriters have a habit of sensationalizing everything. These things are all rumors, and not items on which a person’s machismo should be questioned.

Cook, de la Rosa, Beimel.

Who cares.

I have definitely soured on Oswalt. This guy has acted like a total joke. It’s a shame Haren is off the market, but he has his own issues as well.

I’d go back to a plea for Cliff Lee, but at this point the horse has been beaten beyond recognition more than once within 12 months.

I read for several sources that the Oswalt demands are been exaggerated. This is most likely Rosenthal doing. We may never know who is telling the truth. Sources said Oswalt said he prefer the Cards but it doesnt matter and doesnt want to be a Yankee. I say loo

It was only a rumor that Oswalt said he didn’t want to pitch in Philly, no one has proved that. He has personally said he will go anywhere as long as they pick up his $16mil 2012 option.

If you had the option of doing the same job a few thousand miles away for the same amount of money would you want to move? How about if there was some sort of financial incentive?

It’s an asshole move to call him a pussyboy. The guy has a no-trade clause and he’s treating his job like it is a job. It’d be nice if he wanted to come to Philly to win, but its not like the Phils are a sure thing for the playoffs. The guy wants to get paid, don’t take it so personally.

sorry meant to say the should look for a competent # 3 starter..we hopefully already have our #1 and #2 guy….

Yeah, he DID have a good record last year at 16-9, but his ERA was close to 4.5 and his WHIP close to 1.4. I mean, is he really any better than Blanton, Happ or Kendrick at this point?

Chuck – you said a lot of things I’d like to respond to.
Regarding Happ – I think he gave up way too many line drives. Fortunate that most were catchable. He needs more time that we cannot afford him.

Blanton, he is looking better. After a very shaky first inning yesterday, that was it. He is improving.

Your right about Kendrick – as a 5th starter he’s on, he’s off – but that is probably all you can expect.

On to the Cards – You talk about a 1-2 starting punch? How about 1,2 & 3? Between Wainright (top CY candidate after Jimenez finishes collapsing), Carpenter & Garcia – the trio are 34-12 with a combined ERA of only 2.62 (Carpenter’s ERA is the highest at 3.09). The relief core of McClellan (2.03 ERA in 42 games), Motte (2.38 ERA in 43 games) and Boggs (2.44 ERA in 40 games) plus love him or hate him Franklin with 18 saves in 19 SVO.. Offense is more limited this year – hard to believe when you have Puljos and Halliday on your team – but, 2nd base is weak for them, SS is terrible and Yady is having an bland year. Rasmus and Freese are filling some of the gaps but they need a SS badly.

I too don’t want Oswalt but we need another starter and we need to swap up Danys Baez and Herndon for Mathiason and Figgy – (he didnt get picked up somewhere did he?). We have enough offense if all keep coming around, we just need to tighten up the arms.

De La Rosa is capable of going toe to toe with anyone… this was supposed to be his breakout season and he showed signs of that early on (until his injury). It’s not a typical Phillies move (they usually go the safe route in situations like this; innings eaters and low ceiling guys) but I would do it.

Brooks Figgy was picked up by Astros…another mistake by RAJ…the guy was pitching pretty good…and was an experienced reliever….

Yes, its really me. I’m sure you will not believe it. My buddy told me that this site had wrote some terrible things about me. Cory, do you know me? Who are you. Thats right. This is a reason I rather play elswhere. Good luck with the site.

Roy Oswalt

Its okay roy. Youre a professional athlete that makes millions of dollars. You mean to tell me you can’t handle a little criticism or heckling? Hell you are a pussyboy. With that attitude we don’t even want you here ;D

I agree with you. Let’s hope amaro also agrees. Knowing nothing about him before now, may alter my impression of him but let him stay in Houston

so are all you morons going to boo Oswalt in his first start at home?

release Raul! release Raul!