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Gameday: Braves (86-65) at Phillies (90-61)

Posted by Pat Gallen, Tue, September 21, 2010 06:07 PM | Comments: 0
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Atlanta Braves (86-65) at Philadelphia Phillies (90-61)Atlanta Braves

Mike Minor (3-1, 5.84 ERA) vs. Roy Halladay (19-10, 2.49 ERA)

Time: 7:05, Citizens Bank Park
Weather:
Clear, 66
TV: CSN
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Four up with 11 to play. The Phillies can take a commanding five game lead in the National League East tonight with a win behind Roy Halladay. Atlanta is going to get sick of seeing aces real quick.

Halladay wants to join some elite company in Phillies history this evening. With a victory, he’ll get his 20th, putting him in a class with Steve Carlton, Chris Short, and Robin Roberts as the only pitchers since 1917 to have 20 wins or more for the club. Quite an honor.

Atlanta, in their quest for a playoff berth, is countering with 22-year old rookie Mike Minor. You’d think they would have set up the rotation in a way that would make this a series, but the Phillies have a clear advantage right now. As Charlie Manuel likes to say, it’s all about the here and now, he won’t look ahead and neither will the lot of these guys.

In his pre-game presser, he talked highly of Wilson Valdez. The 32-year old shortstop has done an admirable job of filling in for Jimmy Rollins, no matter how depressing his 19 double-plays are. As Rollins continues to heal slowly – there is no timetable yet for his return, but Manuel did say he’s getting better – Valdez will be called upon keep the defense in order. Can’t heap enough praise onto him.

Today’s lineup: Victorino CF, Polanco 3B, Utley 2B, Howard 1B, Werth RF, Ibanez LF, Ruiz C, Valdez SS, Halladay P

Victory LagerYour gameday beer: Wild Goose Pumpkin Patch

This Maryland-based fall brew was ranked among the 10 best pumpkin beers by beerinfo.com, and tis the season. Beer Advocate gives it a solid B rating, so this is a fine brew to pick up while you enjoy the autumn breeze flowing through the open windows. Nose and flavors consist of cinnamon, allspice, nutmeg, toasted grains, some sweet malt. Your usual pumpkin ale spice profile, but a tad muted. Makes it slightly easier to drink than Punkin Ale by Dogfish, in my opinion. - Pat Gallen
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  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    WHooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  • HELLLLLLLLL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    the nfl sucks and isnt comparable

    willie Mays and Ted williams would be more dominant now I think

    with the lack of fundamentals most posess

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    1982 was a long time ago

    congrats doc

    now lets ease his load

     
  • Posts: 0 jeff

    nlf sucks. lol. number one rated sport. you have no idea who will win. i could of told you in baseball who would be there. i love this game but in no way it doesnt compare.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Andrew my memory of those days is a little fuzzy about W.J., but I do remember the two of them were going back and forth start to start.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    sarge asks roy about umps squeezing him

    roy wont touch it with a 10 foot pole

    guys a winner and smart

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Helllll Yeah JPB!

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    YEah great win…I would like to see the Phils deliver the knockout blow..they had plenty of chances….cant leave them Braves stick around…if we can get the sweep this will leave them a lil flat and give us a lil room for error…we still have a difficult schedule ahead of us….

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    20 wins for Doc Halladay. Amazing

    The Fightin’s win 9 straight. Undefeated aces since….

    It’s Impossible…

     
  • Posts: 0 Scott in D.C.

    That really should do it for the division. What a season.

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    Tomorrows the encore. The knockout punch.

    Roy Oswalt

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    I am right, the magic number post-halladay is 6?

    FOUR. 4 is the new magic number this time tomorrow

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    If memory serves me
    Ryan got there first. but got hurt and Carlton over took him and did hold the record for a bit. And they traded it back and fourth some.
    But then Ryan just kept going and going. Was amazing

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Doc is deserving of the CY this year.

    What do these names have in common?

    R. Clemens, R. Johnson, P. Martinez, and G. Perry -

    The only four pitchers to win a CY in both leagues.

     
  • Posts: 0 miked63

    jeff , the NFL of course except for Jim Brown , he would be great today.But baseball is different , Bob Gibson , Carlton , Seaver , Nolan Ryan , Whitey Ford , Sandy Koufax , believe me they would dominate today , maybe more. Theres guys in the big leagues now that wouldn’t have even been in the league 20-30 years ago because of expansion.
    As far as position players , come on , Willie Mays is still the best all around baseball player theyre ever was , the names i listed at 10:08 barely scratch the surface of all the great players from the 50′s ti’ll now
    that ABSOLUTELY would post even better numbers cause theres guys pitching today that dont even belong in the bigs

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Nolan was amazing, his endurance is untouchable. He still looks like he could pitch.

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    Taxed bullpen for the Braves. Wagner gonna go 3?

     
  • Posts: 0 Desibrave

    Lefty, I don’;t think Clemens deserves to be named along with the rest of those greats,

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    I agree with you there Desi.

    Steroids should never disgrace the hall

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    he was naming winners of cy in 2 leagues
    not naming greats

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Desi,
    i wasn’t stating an opinion. It’s just fact. If they take it away one day, they do. But what if they find that Dale Murphy was roided up too?
    The problem is we don’t know all of them, so we can’t take the records from some of them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cy_Young_Award

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    MikeD is spot on correct Jeff, in fact i think some of those hitters would be better today, taking advantage of the faster fastballers. Could you imagine if Henry Aaron got to face Jonathan Broxton?

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Andrew- Our defense is amazing. Did you see my post last night after I got back home from CBP?

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    I love the fact that I missed most of the game, cause I had a class that lasted from 6:00-8:40 pm. Then I had to get dinner…I never miss games, this is an outrage.

     
  • Posts: 0 Desibrave

    Issue is not about Steroids…, It is about Lieing to congress.., Huge mistake by Clemens

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    Desi, I hope you realize that we will have genetically enhanced super-atheletes in the future. And yes…I am serious. And no…I’m not crazy or dumb.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    Actually, yes I am dumb. I spelled athlete wrong.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    I am very happy, somewhat loaded and going to have a peaceful and restful night’s sleep knowing the Phils won and Doc got his 20th. Everything is brighter and sweeter when the Phils win.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    I don’t like Clemens either. But I am not sure congress should be investigating this. I would hope they would have more important things to do.

     
  • Posts: 0 miked63

    I tell you guys , I love this game so much , you see how I gave Jeff a long response , its not cause i’m going after jeff its cause I could talk about baseball history forever. You guys ever just sit at a bar during a baseball game with complete strangers and talk baseball ? I’ve done it for hours at my favorite watering holes. I’m just thankfull I’m old enough to have seen some of the greats , Mays was done when i saw him in 72 , but I saw all the great players from the 70′s on. I really do think guys like Dimaggio , Ted Williams Lou Gehrig and co. even from the 40′s would still be great today. Baseballs the only major sport where you can make the comparison. I think you can do the same thing with the NBA , the great players from the 60′s and after would still be great today.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    You go miked.

     
  • Posts: 0 Desibrave

    Ryan, good point. I always wonder about that.., Also humans will be able to pick and choose the chromosomal structure of their offsprings , if they want a doctor, or an athlete or an architect etc..

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Braves are dangerously close to being knocked out of the playoffs completely. Now tied in the loss column with SF, SD, and only one game in front of Col. – Once those teams make up the games they have in hand, Braves may be done. Hard to believe.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    Although I do disagree about Mays. In my opinion, Roberto Clemente was the best of all time.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The braves dont have the horses

    its like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

    For phils sake be easiest if SF and col didnt make it.

    Its all about the defense. Especially c 2b ss cf

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    Desi it’s terrible. There will be economic disparity and everything. Only those able to afford the operations would be able to have their children worthy of becoming pro.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Clemente doesnt have the numbers to be compared as an all time ruth mays cobb level

     
  • Posts: 0 Desibrave

    Well lefty, I agree about that but those teams in west play each other a lot the rest of the way so they will be knocking each other out..,

    Braves gotta sweep nats and marlins which i think is a tough proposition, but what the heck, I am ok if they win or lose as long as they keep fighting like they are doing in this series with two rookie pitchers on the mound going against two solid philly starters

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    Anyway, I miss Bravoman. I wish he was here to be a laughing stock yet again. =(

     
  • Posts: 0 Desibrave

    Well rockies down 0-3 against DBacks.. Former brave Kelly johnson hit a 2 run homer ;)

     
  • Posts: 0 Scott in D.C.

    I’m with Desi … Clemens deserves to go down. Whatever your politics, we can all agree that lying to Congress is diabolically defiant.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ryan

    Alert: The Twins are losing 4-2 in the 8th. If they lose, the Phillies will have the 2nd best record in baseball.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    I agree with lefty

    The politicians grandstanding was a disgrace. they should be arrested not Clemens. They had no business having hearings on a game.
    Why not hearings on WWE?

    clemens shouldnt ever make the hall thats his punishment

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    I never saw him play, it was a little before my time, but I’d put Ted Williams up as THE best. He missed so much of the prime of his career to the war, if not for that he may have had the all time HR record.

    Willie Mays was exceptional, Aaron, Clemente, DiMaggio etc. all the rest of the greats, it’s hard to say one is better than the other.

    Mike- I love to talk baseball with strangers, I’m doing it right now LOL

     
  • Posts: 0 miked63

    @lefty —— They didn’t have the guns years ago but i’ve heard players from years ago say they didn’t need a gun to know Koufax threw 100mph in the fiftys. Theres always been pitchers that could throw mid 90′s and up goin way back. You don’t have to be a roided up monster.
    Look at the skinny kid in SF Lincecum , look at Oswalt .Some people (not sayin you jeff ) have this idea that pitchers just started throwin hard in the last 20 years or so its nuts. Bob Gibson ( 2.00 career era)
    would put you on your a$$ if you crowded the plate and he threw in the high 90′s , imagine that chin music. Players excepted it as part of the game from the 80′s back , they werent a bunch of babys rushing the mound. —- ok , sorry i’m done now i cant help myself baseball does that to me

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    I love baseball.

    Phillies baseball.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Juan Marichal charged the mound bat swinging lol
    Late 50s or 60s

     
  • Posts: 0 miked63

    @ryan LOL bro ——– stay in school its the most important time of your life right now

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    It’s okay Mike- you’re right . They didn’t even measure the pitchers back then. Bob Gibson was a mean SOB. He was fantastic in the 67 series v the Sawx. I was in 5th grade and my teacher was from Boston so she let us watch!

     
 
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