Howard's six RBIs lead Phillies over Fish 10-6

Posted by Kieran Carobine, Wed, September 08, 2010 11:25 PM | Comments: 0
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The Phillies, nay, the first place Phillies scored early and often on the Florida Marlins’ team tonight. The Phils scored in six of the eight innings they brought hitters to the plate. They were led by Ryan Howard and his six RBIs. It was Howard’s third career six RBI game and second this season. Howard also belted his 28th home run of the season and 250th for his career. He is now only one homer shy of tying Pat Burrell for third on the Phillies’ all time home run list. The Phillies as a team pounded out 17 hits, tying their season high.

The final score to tonight’s affair was 10-6. That’s what the box score will say. Just don’t go thinking Cole Hamels (10-10, 3.06) had anything to do with those Marlins’ runs. Hamels pitched a great game going seven innings and not allowing a run. He lowered his ERA to 3.06 and extended his scoreless streak to 25 innings. That is the most by any Phillies pitcher since Randy Wolf threw 27 in 2002.

Hamels came into the game without picking up a win against the Marlins in his last 10 starts. He had been 0-6 with a 4.62 ERA dating back to September 22nd of 2006.

Playing in first place for the first time since May 30th, the Phillies are looking to have another hot September leading into the playoffs. Every starter, including Hamels, had a hit for the Fightins. Five of those hitters had more than one hit. Even Ross Gload and Wilson Valdez had a hit tonight filling in.

Valdez came into the game in the fourth inning replacing Jimmy Rollins. After doubling and scoring on a Carlos Ruiz single Rollins slowly walked back to the dugout. After talking with Charlie Manuel he didn’t take the field for the top of the next inning.

Phillies Nation’s own Pat Gallen, who was at Citizens Bank tonight, says it is only a tight hamstring and is listed as day to day. Gallen also said Rollins was not feeling well before the game and didn’t take part in batting practice. He went on to say this was caused by dehydration, something that others on the team have been dealing with as well.

Rollins has already spent time on the DL twice this season.

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  • Posts: 0 NickFromGermantown

    What an easy game to watch. Hamels and the offense were a treat. I’m glad that Rollins’ issue doesn’t look so bad. Robertson’s excuse for mop up was rather awful, especially given that most of us just wanted to sign High Hopes and be on our way. Regardless, good game. After this much needed day off, let’s keep ‘em coming!

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The best record in the national league.
    Thats what its about.

  • Posts: 0 biz

    Howards 5 off the RBI lead after missing almost 20 games and then losing his swing for another week. Basically, he missed all of August. Simply amazing. Howard’s detractors are clueless. The man is the biggest producer in baseball.

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  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The guy with 100 RBI has played 1 more game and is hitting .340.
    Some of the Howard bashers go way over board. But some of the backers also go to far. Batting 4th for the phillies gives you some built in numbers just by walking to the plate. Whats shocking is he only has 40 walks this year. But that probably says alot about Werth.
    This year in the national league he is in the group right behind votto Pujos and Gonzalez. Thats where he is supposed to be though. Or in the top group.

    As for the haters. You cant hate a guy who produces down the stretch for a team in the pennant race. This is when it counts and hes stepping up. Alberts team is faltering so is vottos. Its about winning and about winning in Sept. If howard continues going as he has been in Sept he is probably underpaid because he is going to carry a team into the playoffs. Lets see where the team and howard are at the end of the season. Thus far I give him a B for 2010. Final grade could be higher or lower.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Howard shouldnt have an OPS .036 lower than werths and the same as Dan Ugglas. If he would not swing at the pitch in the dirt. I think youd have the best hitter in baeball.

  • Posts: 0 biz

    Andrew, His OPS will be higher than Werth’s when the season is over.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    See the thing is while he is like the 7th best hitter in the NL so far.
    Come friday I want him in the lineup over Pujos,votto, Gonzalez SD or Gonzalez colorado. I consider all 4 of them better hitters than howard.
    But Ill take Howard the rest of the way. I think that matters more than being MVP. Its an intersting dichotomy for me. I think my point is that Howard is the perfect player for this team as long as they are perenial contenders.

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    I predict that Howard will hit near 40 bombs and drive in close to 115. Perhaps I am too optimistic but what the hell.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    12 homers in 21 games?

    that would be historic

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    I’m not sure what to think about dehydration? Really?

    Well deserved day off, everyone rest, take it easy. Drink plenty of fluids!

    Big stretch coming up, if the Phils can come up with a decent road trip – taking 4 of 6, I would hope that they would retain first place and the best record. The Braves have 7 games left to complete 20 in row. These are home games but we all know they play St. Louis for 4 which could be devastating for both clubs. If the Cards even lose 2 and Cincy regains their legs just a little, that division is pretty well sealed. As a matter of fact, the Cards stand little or no chance at all. They play everyday for the remainder of the regular season. After the 4 games with the Braves, they still have huge (home) series vs the Padres and finish the regular season with a (home) 4 games series vs the Rockies. I’m thinking the Reds have that division for sure.

    Even if the Reds are swept in this 4 game series by the Rockies tonight, they then play Pittsburgh, Arizona, Houston and Milwaukee in 19 out of their last 22 games. Wow, you talk about setting the table! The Reds are an amazing 25-7 vs those teams. The Reds bellied up to the Cards going 6-12 vs them but, winning the games vs the slugs of their division has put them in the spot where they need to be. Really, to cap it off, the Reds were 12-4 this year vs the Cubs. Except for the Cards, they dominated the Central division and are honestly in coast mode with a 6 game lead and 23 left to play. If anyone ever needed proof that flattening the slugs when you play them will help you in the long run, here you are.

    If the Braves lose 2, they would probably have to sweep the next series with the Nats to have a respectable 5-2 homestand to keep pace with the Phils. The Braves are 6-6 vs the Natsies. Although we cannot expect much, at least the Nats should take 1 of those games.

    So, perhaps we should revisit the respect that the Reds are getting on this site. How exactly did they fare vs teams that are in playoff contention this year?

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    I will answer my own question.

    The Reds were 21-33 vs teams that are either in a pennant race or on the cusp. In other words, teams with winning records. The Phils on the other hand are 32-21 vs teams with winning records.

    The kicker: the Phils are 12-13 vs the Cubs, Houston the Brewers and Pittsburgh with their only winning record vs the Brewers (5-1). You take out the games vs Brew crew and we are a pathetic 7-12 vs the teams that the Reds feasted on this year.

    WTF does that mean???

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    What are you not sure about with dehydration? It’s a very real thing and can come on without even really realizing it. Muscle-tightening is a classic symptom.


    Yeah, I was at the game too and that 8th inning was a joke. This guy Robertson had NOTHING, ZERO. I’ve never heard so many cheers for a manager who comes out to remove a pitcher as I did for Charlie when he took out Robertson. Herndon did a nice job and fortunately Madson didn’t throw that many pitches.

    Thank the good Lord for this off day though. The Phils need it badly. Time to catch their breath and then focus on the Mutts.

  • Posts: 0 bfo_33

    I know they are saying Rollins has a tender hamstring, but that looked like a calf strain to me. Hope I’m wrong, love Rolllins in the 5 or 6 hole.

    I’m not a Vic fan, but he has done an excellent job in lead-off over the past 3 days. It looks like he has changed his approach to hitting, when a mistake pitch comes, he’ll try to go yard, otherwise taking what he is given, just trying to get on base. If he can keep that mentality (and not try to be Ryan Howard), we’ll be in great shape.

    A very nice catch by Werth early in the game (don’t remember if it was the first or 2nd inning). Made up for a mostly bad day at the plate.

    Phils don’t play well at Citi-Field – hope to go 2-1 there. Facing a rookie Fri – for some reason, these guys always give the Phils a hard time. At least he’s mostly a fastball pitcher, rh, and only throws in the low 90s. Halladay going against him, should take that game. KK agaisnt Pelfry looks bad on paper, then Oswalt/Neise.

    The next Marlins series is going to be interesting. Last night was one of the few times I’ve seen Utley react to getting hit – he looked pissed. While they won’t risk the outcome of a game, wouldn’t be surprised if Ramirez or Morrison get thrown at.

    Ryan Howard had 8 hr in Sept 09, 11 in 08, and 11 in 07. Unlikey to get 12 more hr, but another 6-10 is well within reason. He’ll probably finish at 36/110, a very nice year considering he missed a month.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Utley totally looked pissed. Real pissed. Playing in Citi will be good for the Phils. They can practice taking pitches and working walks and Raul…my lord..the way he has been gapping the ball he can run forever (for him) at Citi. I am a believer that large ball parks help the team with the better pitcher. So that would be us. Go Phils.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Phillistein

    Man – we are one banged up team. See Howard get thrown out last night? He’s still gimpy. Lidge elbow; Polanco elbow, Jimmy (can’t believe I’m pulling for a hammy here instead of a calf injury).

    Werth has been an iron man this year. It would be great if we could put some distance between us and the Braves and in the WC. However, don’t see that happening. Still alot of baseball; this time next month it will be series time!!!

    Keep the spit, glue and scotch tape handy – they’re going to need it!

  • Posts: 0 Phillistein

    Phila are going to miss Dickey at Citi. Good!!!

    He pitched last night.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Thank goodness we have Wilson Valdez right now.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    Maybe Mike Sweeney plays first base tomorrow night and Howard’s available to come in the game or pinch hit if needed?

    I know it’s not likely, but I’d like to see Howard take a seat for his ankle’s sake. Sweeney or Gload, whatever, but I just like to see the camera on Mike Sweeney, see what he

    As for Rollins, he’s valuable in that five- or six-spot, but of all the replacements this year, Valdez has had the most experience and he’s proven his worth filling in for Rollins already. Give that hamstring a rest and give Valdez some playing time.

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    So glad today is an off-day! Howard should be careful with that ankle and Jimmy with his legs… and Lidge and Polanco with their elbows. If we want to make it to the postseason and go deep once again, we’re gonna need them all in top form and healthy. If we gotta give Gload or Valdez –even Dobbs– a start this weekend, so be it.

    And how about Cole Hamels… after his previous start he had a 3.18 ERA and I asked you guys if you think that he’ll finish the season over/under 3.05? One start later he’s at 3.06! Of course we can’t expect him to continue throwing shutouts every single time, but DAMN.. there’s a decent chance that he could finish his season with an ERA below 3.00! I predicted 2.99 before the season started… Just to think that CC Sabathia is the favorite to win the AL Cy Young when his numbers are notably inferior to Cole’s

    CC 3.14 ERA
    Cole 3.06 ERA

    CC 1.21 WHIP
    Cole 1.16 WHIP

    CC 170 Ks
    Cole 188 Ks

    CC .241 BAA
    Cole .234 BAA

    CC 66 BBs
    Cole 54 BBs

    Obviously, I’m rooting for Felix Hernandez in the AL but CC will probably have 20 or more wins and take home the prize… which is $tupid.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    CC has a designated hitter to deal with.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 bfo_33

    Including that in, CC and Hamels are basically the same. Both fine pitchers, but neither are the best in their leagues (Should be King Felix and Roy Halladay for Cy Youngs). It’ll be interesting to see if the voters let win totals cloud their judgement.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Nice comparison, Manny.

    I’m going to echo a lot of things that have already been said… looked like a calf but I also felt like it might not have been a pull or a strain because at one point it looked like he got a little more giddy up (maybe it was just a cramp that he was able to run through). Sometimes, you’re able to pull/run through those cramps and it’s actually better.

    Howard is the best run producer in baseball… the guys on MLB Network said it best, “It seems like every HR he hits is a 3 run HR.” That’s what he does… he drives in runs. The guy is a career .315/.424/691 in September/October… there is no one better when it matters and that’s the guy I want. I don’t understand how anyone can bash the man… all he does is work to get better. He’s hitting .281 and that would be higher if not for a terrible slump coming off the DL (have to expect that, somewhat, right? He is human…). In fact, if he’s hitting .281 right now, chances are he’ll be hitting .300+ by the time the season is over with 35 HR and 120 RBI. Fastest EVER to 250 HR… I’m sorry, Votto is a nice player but until he has a few years of 100+ RBI under his belt, there is nobody else I would want playing first base… besides Pujols.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I’ll take Ryan Howard….and all his so-call “flaws”….every day of the week.

    I said earlier in the season when Howard was struggling with the power but hitting for average….and everyone on here was bashing him…that ….BARRING AN INJURY…..he would end up with a .285-.295 avg, 40+ HR and 130-140 RBI.

    There were some that poo-pooed that prediction and laughed at me..but the numbers don’t lie. Without that injury (basically missing all of August if you count the DL time and the time to find his stroke again) he would be right there.

  • Posts: 0 biz

    Despite missing almost a month, Howard is 5 back from the RBI lead. I predict he finishes with the lead once again. The 4th time in 5 years.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Power numbers are down across major league baseball (with the exception of one guy… Jose Bautista)… he’s still driving in runs and that’s what really matters, isn’t is?

    This is what drives me nuts… we kill everyone. Think about it… I can list 9 guys that have been an absolutely integral part of this historic team that would have every reason to feel wronged by our fan base; Howard, Rollins, Werth, Raul, Vic, Madson, Lidge, Manuel and Hamels. And the sad part is that there are probably a dozen guys whose fingers are cramping just reading this who can’t wait to craft a reply. Wake up… this is the best era in Phillies history. Every one of these guys deserves to be enshrined and for some reason we won’t give them any credit until they’re long gone.

    But I digress… I’m having a discussion with a couple of friends about that Hamels/CC comparison who are “poo-pooing” me about that comparison (I got a 3 word reply, “What about wins?”). These are the same guys that said Jamie Moyer was a bum in 2008 in the midst of a 16 win season…

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Original: those aren’t your friends!!!!!

    And don’t forget to add Chooch to that list.. not too long ago he would be boo’d constantly…

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    And you left out Utley…Mr. Untouchable by our fanbase. Yet he’s had his struggles as much if not more than some of the guys you listed.

    Makes me crazy!!

    As far as the “wins” argument for pitchers….I guess a guy has to have a certain number AT LEAST….15,18 maybe?….in order to even be considered for a Cy Young. Wins are truly overrated and ERA and WHIP are truly underrated.

  • Posts: 0 Phillistein

    Yo Original Chuck P

    It is unfortunate the willingness of some (many) of our phans to turn on the players after a bad week, month or even season. regardless of what they’ve done in the past.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    I mean, it’s ok to get on guys when they’re not getting it done (Howard needs to do this… Rollins should try to be a little more patient…) but that’s not what happens. It’s always a vicious attack that ends up with someone suggesting that we replace or look for an alternative. No one is exempt from criticism but give these guys the credit and trust that they’ve earned…

  • Posts: 0 bfo_33

    There is occasional venting on a blog (which for some of us who no longer live in Philly may be the only outlet), then there is booing at the ballpark. I doubt Howard, Utley, Raul,… read this, but they hear the boos.

    I’ve been a Phils fan since the mid 70s, and through that entire time, there is only one guy on the Phils who deserved the boos he got – Adam Eaton. Schmidt had his terrible slumps, Von Hayes was never the player we thought he’d be (nor was Lance Parrish, Juan Samuel, Greg Jeffries, Travis Lee,….), Charlie Hayes wasn’t Mike Schmidt, wild thing lost it in the playoffs, Burrell barely cleared the Mendoza line,….., but the effort was always there. Eaton was the only guy who “seemed” completely indifferent to his performance or the outcome of the game. He deserved every boo he got, and a few more. Other than that, I don’t understand booing your own players when they are playing hard.

    I agree completely that this is by far the golden era of the Phils, have another year or 2 before the line-up starts to significantly turn over. While there are guys that can be frustrating, don’t seem to maximize their skills at times, to a man, this team plays hard every night, and I’ll be telling my grandchildren about the current team.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    J.D. Drew deserved it.


  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Of course, he got it more AFTER he left.

  • Posts: 0 bfo_33

    Stephen also deserves it for being his brother – but JD never signed so I didn’t count him.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Mike Schmidt… greatest third baseman of all time… wasn’t appreciated until after he was gone. It’s like we can’t see the big picture… we’re watching history every night. These guys… this team… is special. They all have their flaws but they pick each other up and never lay down and we should get that more than any other city. The faithful fans that had to endure the Phold (1964 collapse) and the darker times get somewhat of a free pass but even they should be able to see the big picture… we have a real shot at being the first NL team since 1942-44 to make it to the WS 3 consecutive years. Are you kidding me?

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Mike Schmidt never really endeared himself to the fans the way most of these present Phillies do. Schmitty still to this day can come off as surly and unfriendly.

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    Freddy Garcia deserved it.

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Our often citicized first baseman, does a lot of things wrong. He strikes out alot, he should walk more, he should try to take balls the opposite way against the shift, he shouldn’t swing at balls in the dirt, he should do this and he should do that———

    But when speaking in terms of THE greatest power hitters in the history of baseball, Ryan Howard is number one, in one category.
    We are watching history, and I am thankful for it.


  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    People didn’t like Schmitty that much because he had the bad habit of making the hardest things look easy and effortless, like he wasn’t even trying. Hitting a homer was so easy that when he struck out it must have been due to lack of effort. And he just didn’t have a Philly personality. He wasn’t blue collar and he wasn’t a grinder. Unlike Bowa, Dykstra, Utley, Iverson, BDawk, etc. whom the fans really took to because of their approach and demeanor, Schmidt will always reside with McNabb, Richie Allen, and Werth, because of their perceived aloofness and their detached personalities.

    In Philly, when the former group used to fail at least they gave it the old college try. When the latter group failed it was because they just didn’t give enough of a shit or something.

    But that’s Philly.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    I was at the Vet many times when Schmidt was booed. I never truly understood it.

    But I could rationalize it. The man was so great that he made everything look easy. He never looked like he was hustling, he was gifted and didn’t have to. The great diving stops you’ve seen other third basemen make, he didn’t have to. He got to them with his incredible athleticism and quickness on his feet. He used his head where others needed to use their body. He was- quite simply- amazing.

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Dipsy, I didn’t see your post while posting mine, but I think we sort of said the same thing!

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Yuppers. Great minds think alike I always say.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    I would definitely say this current run, since 07 is what will be deemed the “Golden Age” of the Philadelphia Phillies.

    On the other hand, it’s actually a little difficult for me now to consider this as one of the best teams I’ve seen play. Especially since we all had been smack in the middle of one of the most baffling offensive droughts I could never have imagined (I’m sure some of you recall my excessive whining). Prior to mid-May and most importantly from late- August until hopefully the end of the year, this team has once again shown the baseball world who needs to be reconned with.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Philly is unique with this sort of thing….and I love it. It’s what makes our great city what it is.

  • Posts: 0 Phillistein

    Well Chuck – guess you and I have to agree to disagree. I don’t love it – I think it makes us look ridiculous. What I really disagree with is the feeling around the country that this trait is unique to Philly. I was born and raised in NYC. I’m old enough to have seen Mantle towards the end of his career – and they BOOED him!!!

    I guess it goes hand in hand with passion. The more passionate the fan base the more likely it is that they’ll boo.

    I will NEVER understand booing Schmidt; one of the best 3rd sackers in the history of the game. (I lived in NYC when he played)

  • Posts: 0 Phillistein

    Oops – forgot!

    I too agree with this might be the golden age of Phillies baseball. I realize that those late 70′s and early 80′s teams had a great run. But there is something about THIS team. Maybe it’s because the core came up Phillies. Maybe it’s the way they play; how they pull for one another.

    The 93 team was fun, but shorter lived and certainly less successful. That group was totally whacked!!! (remember, they were in 1st when the strike hit in 93 – and then – that was that!)

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    When Thome was here and hurt, I couldn’t believe he was booed. Judging by the look on his face, he couldn’t either.

    I grew up in Baltimore when it was pretty cheap to go and lived pretty much in the lf bleachers at 33rd and Md. Honestly, I don’t remember fans booing our own.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    It’s not just the booing. It’s the WAY it’s done that gives Philly its own unique style.

    I don’t boo when I go to games. I really try to cut these players some slack and support them. But I appreciate the passion.

    I’ll tell you this, too. I’d rather have passionate loud fans booing in Philly than those way-to-polite, sit-on-your-behind-and-clap fans in St Louis. Games there remind me of Bingo night at the local fire hall.

  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    94 was the strike year Philistein

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Jim Thome should NEVER have been booed.

    But then neither should the Pope or Santa Claus.

    Was Mother Theresa booed here once??

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