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Phillies Drop Brewers Finale, 6-2

Posted by Pat Gallen, Sun, September 05, 2010 07:11 PM | Comments: 0
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Randy Wolf shut down the Phillies over 6 2/3 innings in the Brewers 6-2 win. Kyle Kendrick has not looked good in his last few starts. Today he allowed five runs in four innings, dropping his record to 9-8. The Phillies runs came in the second inning, as Carlos Ruiz brought home two runs with a double. For Milwaukee, Prince Fielder’s first inning homer was the difference.

Have a great holiday weekend and enjoy the doubleheader tomorrow against the Marlins!

 
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  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The Rockies just completed the sweep of the Padres. The padres are 0-10 in thier last 10.
    The rockies keep coming and they are home for thier next 10.
    I actually feel bad for thier fans.
    Almost ready to say
    Pillies reds giants rockies as the 4 playoff teams.
    Phils will get at least 2 off the Marlins. I am hoping for 3.
    Tomorrow the Marlins are pitching a guy who is 0-0 with 5-4 record and a 4.14 ERa in the minors vs worley. Then roy #2 for the nightcap. I am liking the phils chances. Hope worley is good.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    Bad game was there today, first time I have seen them lose in Philly since last year Baltimore game. Very dissapointing, I know they can not win every game but not being to rock Wolf today was a shame, he reallly is not that good. Oh well, need to get 3 out of 4 against the fish. Dispite having to pitch 5 innings today the pen had a pretty easy day, Mattheson only guy to go more than one inning, and no JC, Madson, Lidge. Should be good for Worley start if he can only go 5 or 6. I have stated before the Phillies need to win 4 of 6 against the braves and they will be fine.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    I am a Randy Wolf hater. He is a pompous ass from Pepperdine and has an inflated opinion of himself. Fans here were really too good to him and I cannot like the guy no matter how much I try. Anytime he beats the Phils is a bad time. Our offense stinks right now. We will hopefully be able to turn it around against the Marlins. As for Kendrick — my crystal ball sees a place for him as a spot starter and long reliever. He just isn’t good enough to be a starter. He really needs another good pitch. Sinker, sinker, sinker sinker, change, sinker, sinker, sinker. And little strike-out ability. Just not good enough.

     
  • Posts: 0 JAY-AKA-PHILLYBOY

    I agree bart about kk,you cant be a major league pitcher with the pitches he has,hitters lick there chops when they face him!Wish jamie was healthy,MUCH RATHER HIM BE OUT THERE!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 biz

    Jay,

    Jamie Moyer is worthless come August and September. He done a decent job these last few years up until the All Star break. 99.9% of Phillies fans were calling for his head at this time last year, and the this time the year before. He can’t go a full season at his age.

    & Andrew,

    I don’t know why you keep leaving the Braves out of the Playoff picture. Both the Giants and the Rox will not pass them. The Braves have been solid all year and aren’t go to fall down. They’re 4.5 up on the giants and what, 6 on the Rox? Not gonna happen. The WC comes from the NL East, my friend.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    So I was doing some forcasting, and there is a way that the last three games against the Braves in October the rotation could be Doc on friday Cole on Saturday and Roy2 on Sunday last day of the year. This would also set up a playoff rotation if they make it in of Doc Cole Roy 2 Big Joe. Looking at it though there is one bad thing setting that up When ATL plays in Philly the rotation would be Doc, KK or some spot guy or Worley is a real deal,Roy 2. This would give Roy 2 6 starts Doc, Cole, and Blanton 5 starts 3 starts need to be filled with KK or insert spot stater here. And like I said one of those 3 starts is against the Braves at home. Would be nice to be 2 games up on the Braves on Sept 20 so that start would not matter that much. Also this gives Cole an extra day of before his last two starts. The other way I figure out has the last 3 games be Doc roy 2 then Blanton. There is really on 3 starts were we need a 5th starter, what do you all think of that

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    KK is NOT a major league starter let alone a 5th starter on this team. He absolutely is terrible, that mortar shot from Fielder hit probably put someone in the hospital it was hit so hard.

    Kyle has given up 18 runs in his last 4 starts, 20.2 innings. 32 hits! And oh yes, this happens to be crunch time for a team that needs to show it’s mettle.

    Look, I know we need offense badly and I know the Phils left men in scoring position again and again vs that stud Wolf (are you kidding me?). In case anyone else was there, I was the idiot in left field yelling “Guys, its Randy Wolf!” Rollins and Howard were actually double clutching when Wolf would throw that slop – 66 mph curve ball and a slider in the high 70′s – his fast ball as usual was in the mid 80′s and Howard just couldn’t find it. Howard’s error in the 9th, really helped to kill any steam we were feeling. One very bright spot was Werth’s outfield assist. That was a beauty.

    I’ll be there tomorrow night looking Roy2 to continue his mastery. Does anyone know the Phils record for double headers? I don’t believe its all that good.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    If the Phillies can take two out of four from the Fish, and then win each series, with on sweep of the Nats, that would give them 95 wins, It is going to come down to winning 4 of 6 from the Braves, Like I listed on my last post, that Tuesday game is going to be a tough win. And to do any of this the offense needs a consistant streach like in the first 3 weeks of the season. Howard looked a little lost against the 66-75 mph thowing lefty on the mound today. Needs to go on the Ryan September run, Chase hit the ball hard and looks like his timing is almost there. Can not let down against the poor teams that are coming up, the Mets seem to be laying down, but the Fish are always out to ruin someones season. And the Nats are on a slippery slop, but can not take them lightly.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    I do remember a sweep against the Mets I think it was in September, but it might have been June, last year went to the day game on Sunday and listened to the night cap on the Radio as I drove back to Vermont.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    Trying to find record in double headers and sometimes I hate all search engines.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bob

    Sounds like the Phils lost…..

    Is anyone seriously surprised by KK’s outing? He is a 5th starter and he’s doing what 5th starters do. Mixed results, today again was bad KK.

    KK was bad, the offense was bad.

    1 loss but not the end of the world.

    Gained a game this weekend in the NL East race and at worst 2 up in the Wild Card.

    2 of 3 the rest of the way will win the NL East.

     
  • Posts: 0 Scott in D.C.

    Kendrick’s performance was not unexpected. But it could have been overcome with some timely hitting. That’s what’s concerning. As I said in the gameday thread, the Phils were lucky to take the first two games. They were gifts. I’m just not super-confident going into this series against the Fish.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    I feel that way because the Giants and Rockies are good teams. That i fear and are playing well. The Braves are mediocre team thats caught a ton of breaks. Including todays rain delay which they squandered.
    They won 3 out of 4 against a Mets team that wants to lose.
    Outside that series. Been suspect for a couple of weeks. They have 4 against the Cardinals who have something to play for and 6 vs the Phillies. Thats 10 tough ones. The braves also have a 9 game road trip sept 17-26. They may still make the wild card. But that isnt even good for the phils because it means the Reds get a very easy first round series. We shall see though. Sorry I am defiantely not drinking the braves koolaid.
    By the way I respected the Padres record and bullpen. But I did point out that their starting pitching outside Latos has been very mediocre. I am not that suprised about them either. They may right that ship yet. If I had to bet 50 dollars Id put it on the Padres in the playoffs over the braves.
    as for the Phils setting up the staff. I dont see the last 3 games being do or die for the Phils. Hopefully will be able to pitch Worley KK and blanton types and get the pitching really set for the playoffs.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The braves are 3.5 up in the WC over the Giants who are winning again. Probably goes to 3. If Lincecum is back to himself look out for them.
    And 6.5 against a red hot rockies team abotu to do a 10 game home stand.
    It will be interesting though. love the baseball pennant race. It dwarfs all other sports.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    I would like the last three games not to be importent, but I do not see having a 4 game lead going into that series. I see being even to 2 up tops. Doc on Friday, Cole on Saturday, does set up for the playoffs, if they are making it in. Braves are on the Road more than the PHillies, so that is good, a sweep of the Braves here in 2 weeks would go a long way, but Like I said no matter how you figure it, that middle game of that series is going to be KK or someone equally as questionable.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    I like it better when there is alot of people on here, oh well hope everyone has a nice day off tomorrow

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Tommorow Phillie play at 1 and 7
    Navy football at 4 on ESPN.
    Check it out they are very good this year and Ricky dobbs is a legitimate heisman candidate. Great story for Navy. Next year at this time he will be serving this country somewhere on a ship. He has a 5 year obligation. He went to the Naval Academy to get his family some benefits. Great kid.
    Tomorrow is my nirvana if Navy wins and he gets 3 TDs and the phils sweep.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Kyle hasnt been so hot we all know he is a fifth or six starter. However his last 3 starts have been awful. We dont expect to throw gems every time but to have a quality start once in a while. If we acquire another starter next year he will most likely be back in the minors or used as a injury reserve guy. Blanton and Kyle having a few quality starts might be the difference in this year tight tight pennant race. Some people on here are still waiting on a Braves collapse guess what folks it isnt going to happen.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    I don’t think they will collapse, but they do notplay well on the road, a sweep tomorrow will be tough with Woorly going in the first game unless the offense comes out to play. Like I have been saying it is going to come down to the 6 games against ATL 4 out of 6 for the Phillies will give them the division, 3 out of four against the Fish into the day off will be a big push for the last 20 games

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The starter from the marlins for game 1 has worse minor league stats that worley. Now I have no clue what that means. I couldnt pick either out of a line up. Just putting it out there.

     
  • Posts: 0 jeremy

    Lehigh Valley Manager Dave Huppert has been informed that he will no longer be managing the team after their last game this year, after 3 horrible seasons this is not surprising. It was obvious something was up as he had said he was not asked to join the phillies for the final month as an assistant as he had in seasons past.

     
  • Posts: 0 jeremy

    Also his comments earlier this year refering to minor league vet’s as “whores for hire” probably didn’t help either

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Wow did he really say that jeremy…im up for Worley i hope he does well…and Scott as well to…

     
  • Posts: 0 mikemike

    Watch my braves now, I told you in the beginning the braves win the divison,but was wrong thought the marlins would get second and phillies third, braves win this divison by 5 games at least, with kendrick and fat joe thats a lot of losses in the last 25 games.

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    I cannot find anything about double header records for the Phils either

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Brooks – do you really think double header records mean anything? Looking forward to seeing Worley today.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Did anyone hear Buster Olney on Mike and Mike this morning? He’s very optimistic about the Phils and puts them as the best team in the NL without taking a moment to think…

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    On the AAA team you don’t expect a contender if you want a real Championship calibre team in the majors but the AAA organisation needs to do a much better job of making the team a viable place to mentor the kids coming through.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    AAA teams seems to be full of AAAA players, has beens and never wases. AAA seems to be a 50 game stop for a lot of minor league players on the fast track. Maybe a chance to see a little bit better brand of breaking stuff for hitters. I don’t put much stock in AAA anymore. NJ – Can you tell me what you know about Austin Hyatt and Jesus Sanchez. I know where they came from but I wonder why they are not regarded in the same way as Shreve, Cosart, etc. Your thoughts?

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    It’s hard to win both ends of a doubleheader. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, doubleheaders are swept only 26.2% of the time.

    And for those of you who can remember SCHEDULED doubleheaders….here’s an interesting little article. So much for the terminology “twin bill” , “nightcap” , “twi-night”. Gone. Obsolete……Sad.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_11_59/ai_66011141/?tag=content;col1

     
  • Posts: 0 The Wolf Pack were Jerkoffs

    The Wolf Pack were jerkoffs.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I don’t know anymore on those guys than what I’ve read through our usual sources. Hyatt’s put up great numbers and Sanchez really has a buzz going since he switched to pitching. To be honest my view on our system is we have a hell of a lot of players who can come up and help this team as support players around the big bats and pitchers (or as trade bait), rather than future studs but I think that’s the right attitude for the organisation right now.

    I really want to see Matheison, Herndon and Bastardo become regulars as soon as possible in the pen so we can a plan start to develop for all these young starter/relievers.

    As much as I like getting all giddy over prospects could star like Trevor May or Singleton I wanna see who separates themeselves from the bunch out of the rest to be major leaguers and not just prospects, too hard to tell right now.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Chuck,
    Thanks for the link. Good stuff, I remeber when Wilbur Wood lost both ends of the twin bill.

    “Lets play two” Ernie Banks

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    That should have read – remember- Better get a cup of coffee before posting again.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Those A guys look like they can be 3-4-5 starter types. Hyatt looks like a monster and Singleton better switch positions if he expects to play up here. That guy is gonna get traded which is fine. I really wanna see them get two more good drafts. Anthony Hewitt. Whew. What a disaster.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 bostonkate

    Worley has some good stuff. I’m bummed I won’t be around to see this game.

    Do the phils generally do good with doubleheaders?

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    Thanks for the link Chuck – nice read.
    @Dip – you’re right, it doesn’t matter how well the Phils have ever fared with double headers, as long as they win 1, we should be satisfied (we can only hope for both ends).

    The information is about as useless as predicting a momentum swing after a big win or projecting a lineup that we all know will never happen, right? Just chatter.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I don’t think there’s any way Singleton reaches the majors as a Phillie but fingers crossed he can give us a Brett Wallace trade bait scenario.

    I’m really interested in relievers like Stuttes, Schwimmer more than the starters right now since there are roles for these guys since we have a locked in set-up crew and these guys can be broken in without too many expectations. As much as I love Chad Durbin I’m hoping he’ll sign a multi-year eight digit deal as a free agent because behind Madson and Lidge, maybe Contreras and Romero returning with their deals re-negotiated we need to get innings under these kids belts so they can take over the more prominent roles with major league experience and not being throw in the deep end.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    I love Chad and think he is a great roll reliever, but I do not think there is a huge market for his type, not for big money anyway. I think the Phillies will try to sign him again, at about what he is making now, 2 3 year deal for 2.5-3 million a year. I really do not think any one is going to over pay for 5 years for a middle reliever. Well maybe the Mets but I do not think Chad would want to pitch there.
    What is the chance we see dom Brown in both games today, giving either Wreth or Vic and Raul a little rest. Both righties for the Fish today, So do you sit Wreth for one game, and Vic or Raul for a game. I think the kid should play two. You know Chooch will have one off, and maybe Polly one game off. But I think Chase, JRoll, and Howard are the only locks to play 2

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    I don’t look for the Phils to gain any ground against the Marlins. Even if they sweep, it won’t gain them much, I’m afraid, because the Braves are playing the Pirates.

    It seems to me the Braves are always playing scrubs when the Phils aren’t.

     
  • Posts: 0 biz

    Re: Playoff rotation. There is absolutely no way we can use a 4 man rotation. This team has 3 very good, excellent, fantastic, stud starters. We also have 2 god awful starters. Blanton has an ERA over 5 after 2 dozen games. That’s absolutely putrid. Just when you think he may be finding his form that has made him a mediocre pitcher, he has a 4 inning, 6 run outing where he serves up 2 or 3 taters. In the post season, he shouldn’t sniff a start. The Roys and/or Cole will have to go on short rest. Typically, there is a day off between the home/road trip. The guys will have to pitch in 3 days rest instead of 4. That’s how you win in the playoffs. Doc will be up for it, so will Oswalt. Cole? I hope so, but we may not need him if Doc and Oswalt throw twice. We can’t afford to throw a game away on that fat loser.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    It all depends if certain teams are giving out deals to non-closing relievers, if teams are looking Chad could easily get $9m/3 but I doubt any teams are going to go past two years on almost any pitcher not named Cliff Lee…

     
  • Posts: 0 BravoMan

    Buster Olney said the Braves were the best team in the NL a month ago. He said it on a Braves radio station. So, how reliable is Olney with his opinions? I just read that and had to respond because it’s so funny.

    George, cry me a river why don’t ya.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    The only way your not starting Blanton in a second round game is if the Phils are down 2-0 and it’s looking desperate.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Buster Olney is the most reliable voice in baseball…

     
  • Posts: 0 biz

    Shag beta,

    I hope they sit Vic for a game. I love the little guy, but he is horrendous as a lefty.

    Also, I was up in Vermont the past 4 days. It was awesome. I was able to get 1210 at night up there and listen to the games. AMAZING! If I can ever start tele-commuting I’ll be living in the Burlington area.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shag beta sigma delta

    Blanton has had one bad start in Colorodo in his last 4 or 5. He will be fine. Cole is not going on short rest, and at Doc’s age I do not see it either unless it is desperation. He is here for 3 years not one, and Charlie did not even pitch Lee on short rest last year, and he had to know he may be gone after that. And all you will jump all over Cole for not going on short rest, but in 2 +3 years when he is still pitching like an Ace you like it. Guys his age have been on a pitch count since he was in HS. And over using guys is what happened to Wood, Pryor and the type. Roy 2 probably would not go on short rest either. Now if it is a must win, then year either Roy may go on short rest. But I do not see that, there is no way if the rotation is set up that you do not win 2 out of three with Doc, Cole and Roy 2.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    BravoMan…what’s the Phillies record over the past month or so?

    Since July 22 it’s 30-13.

    The Braves record over the same 43 game stretch is 24-19. Not terrible.

    But over that span of time, the Phillies went from being 7 games out to being just one behind.

    So there’s a reason why Olney probably said what he said about the Phillies.

    I’m not guaranteeing anything on here….because baseball is a cruel game sometimes….anything can happen. But I’m fairly certain that all NL contending teams are aware of and concerned about the way the Phillies are playing right now.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Buster Olney pretty much said the Yanks are the team in the AL and because the Phils are getting hot there’s no team in the NL who could really go blow for blow with a how Phillies team.

     
 
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