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Rotation is Set; Who's Excited?

Posted by Pat Gallen, Wed, September 29, 2010 08:57 AM | Comments: 0
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A week or so ago, Dave Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News mapped out the Phillies possibilities for the NLDS. Open door #1 and you’ll start the divisional series on Wednesday October 6 with two off days during a five game series. Door #2 gave you a later start, but with less off days in between. The choice was clear.

We now know that Charlie Manuel and Rich Dubee, among others, have chosen to go with the early Wednesday start. It’s was really the only call because it allows the Phillies to use Roy Halladay, Cole Hamels, and Roy Oswalt throughout the five games without using a fourth starter. Manuel has said all along that his strength is pitching, so he’ll ride with what got him here.

Here is a look at the schedule from here until the postseason. How can that not get you excited? Three pitchers who combined to go 20-7 in 33 starts since Roy Oswalt’s acquisition in July get to pitch over and over and over again.

NLDS

Oct. 6 – Game 1 – Halladay
Oct. 7 – Off
Oct. 8 – Game 2 – Hamels
Oct. 9 – Off
Oct. 10 – Game 3 – Oswalt
Oct. 11 – Game 4 – Halladay (Normal Rest)
Oct. 12 – Off
Oct. 13 – Game 5 – Hamels (Normal Rest)

NLCS

Oct. 16 – Game 1 – Halladay
Oct. 17 – Game 2 – Hamels
Oct. 18 – Off
Oct. 19 – Game 3 – Oswalt
Oct. 20 – Game 4 – Blanton
Oct. 21 – Game 5 – Halladay
Oct. 22 – Off
Oct. 23 – Game 6 – Hamels
Oct. 24 – Game 7 – Oswalt

World Series

Oct. 27 – Game 1 – Halladay
Oct. 28 – Game 2 – Hamels
Oct. 29 – Off
Oct. 30 – Game 3 – Oswalt
Oct. 31 – Game 4 – Blanton
Nov. 1 – Game 5 – Halladay
Nov. 2 – Off
Nov. 3 – Game 6 – Hamels
Nov. 4 – Game 7 – Oswalt

It also appears that we’ve seen the last of the Big 3 in the regular season. Halladay last pitched on Monday in the clincher meaning he’ll get eight days to rest. You have to wonder, and this is not a push of the panic button by any means, but will that throw Halladay off kilter? He’s a creature of habit, perhaps more than any other Phillies player. Will an eight-day layoff hurt him or help him? Just playing devils advocate.

If you watched any baseball last night, you’ll know that the Cincinnati Reds are now in after their division-clinching victory. San Francisco also won to take a two-game lead in the NL West over the Padres. In the race for second place, the Giants are a half game up on wild-card leader Atlanta. Cincinnati is a game back.

So, if the playoffs ended right now, the Reds would be the Phillies first round opponent. During the regular season, the Phils went 5-2 over Cincy, including a four-game sweep at Citizens Bank Park in July.

Cincinnati or San Francisco? Who would you rather see? The Reds have a potent offense with a middle-of-the-road rotation. The Giants have great arms at the top – one of the only teams that can rival the Phillies – but lack offense.

UPDATE, 9:25 am: A comment from a Phillies Nation fan on twitter sparked this. If Hamels were to pitch Game 2 of the NLCS, he would be doing so on short rest. If Oswalt were to stay in the Game 3 NLCS slot, He’d be pitching on eight days rest. The solution: flip Hamels to a possible Game 3 start in the NLCS and Oswalt to Game 2. However, that point would be moot should the Phillies wrap up the opening series in less than five games. This layout is simply to say that each pitcher could get a maximum number of starts throughout the postseason.

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  • Posts: 0 mtuske

    I would rather see the Reds. I’m not sure but I think Doc has never beaten the Giants.

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Scared about the Giants, especially in a short best of 5 series… Lincecum, Cain, and a red-hot Sanchez can match our Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt trio. I hope the Padres win the Wild Card, or that we face the Reds. I much rather face the Giants in a longer, best of 7 series.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    I hope our bats are alive and well for the playoffs. The rotation looks good.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Did anyone else think that the Rays/Yankees celebrating postseason berths (berths? a grammatial abortion, I’m sure) was kind of lame?

     
  • Posts: 0 Bacardipr05

    I think between the Giants and the Reds I would rather the Reds. We can be in deep trouble in a short series against the Giants. There trio matches ours inch by inch. I dont want to face the Giants folks. Although i think we may have the slight overall edge over them i dont like the odds.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Actually, I am against wild celebrations at this point in the process. I get why the Phils let loose….after the season they had….and the unbelieveable comeback in the standings….with all the injuries.

    But now…let’s scale that back…til we get the final prize..

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt Kwasiborski

    Yes, it was a hangover game but games like last night scare me in the playoffs. I mean we have given up a total of 5 hits in 18 innings, yet split two games with the Nats (could be anyone really). While I know our C lineup is why we struggled but I can see the A lineup struggle just as much against Lincecum/Cain or Hudson/Hanson no matter how well H2O is pitching. Not to put a damper on our expectations but we didn’t clinch a WS berth just yet.

     
  • JRoll is baaaaaaa-aaaack …. but won’t be 100 percent “until February.” http://tinyurl.com/23tworc

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Thank God for Wilson Valdez. That’s all I have to say.

     
  • Posts: 0 jeff

    who cares if we lose for the rest of the season. oswalt stays in last night we win. rest is so important for these guys. dont worry about doc getting alot of time of. he works hard in his sessions and will throw more. we need him to be very very fresh. he got tired at the end. you can see by the homers. thats not him. this is the best thing we could of asked for. to have a full week off to rest players.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    I care if we lose the rest of the season. Here’s why-

    We have a chance to remove a scary SF Giants team from our playoff schedule possibilities by winning the series against the Braves and knocking them out of WC contention. Then we may have a chance to face the weaker Padres.

     
  • Posts: 0 Nunzio Scholeri

    From Todd Zolecki at Phillies.com:

    “They also suggested lefty Jamie Moyer, who has not pitched since July because of a left elbow injury, could be ready to pitch in the later rounds of the postseason. But Moyer just started throwing off a mound, and he only has thrown four-seam fastballs, which he does not throw in games. He is a ways away from returning.”

    Not sure how you’d end up using him (lefty arm out of the pen? long relief?), but boy would that be a helluva comeback story. I don’t want anyone holding the Phillies down, so I wouldn’t want this unless he was genuinely in pitching shape by then, but I can guarantee you that for this guy who contributed so much early in the season and then had to sit on the bench for months watching his team battle its way to the playoffs, no one would want to contribute more than Jamie.

     
  • Posts: 0 jeff

    did not make sense. if we knock the braves out this weekend then the padres and giants are in. regardless the giants and braves are going to get in and the padres are done. i dont care who we face. we are the best team. rest is what we need not to sweep at this point.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Rest is good. But it needs to be balanced with some level of momentum. Too much of a layoff isn’t the best either.

     
  • Tomorrow the SFGiants could clinch NL West, and same day NLDS “A” could be locked in as Reds at Phillies

     
  • Posts: 0 jeff

    playoffs are a different animal. we know how to win. 11 straight was scary me that we would cool off. rest rest rest. these pitchers are tired. doc will pick it back up again in game one and be well rested.

     
  • Posts: 0 Kate

    I’m with you, Nunzio. I’d love to see Jamie make an appearance in the postseason, but only if he’s able to do so. He needs to conference with Dubes and Charlie and keep trying to get himself ready. It’s pretty amazing that there’s even talk of Jamie Moyer right now, a testament to his dedication and work ethic. I’d like to see them let him out to face a batter or two (maybe with bases empty and two outs, perhaps against a guy who’s cold?).

    But I trust Charlie and Dubes to do the right thing for the team.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    There should be no mention of Jamie Moyer and the 2010 postseason roster. Or the 2011 Phillies roster.

    Thank you Mr. Moyer for all you have done. Really. It’s remarkable….and we all appreciate it. You will forever be a Phillie.

    Now please step aside.

     
  • Posts: 0 BigDADDy33

    TURN IT AROUND – What team really wants to face the Phillies?

     
  • Posts: 0 SandPhlea

    This article confuses me. Wouldn’t the division winner with the best record (Phillies) play the wild card in the first round? And what does “Cincinnati is a game back” mean? You mean Padres are a game back (in the loss column).

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Jeff,
    As usual you are reading things that don’t exist and not making any sense yourself when you post.
    Your original statement before explaining that you want the team to get proper rest was “who cares if we lose the rest of the season” my reponse was “I do”. But at no point did I say we shouldn’t continue to rest our key players, like we did last night.

    Braves magic number for WC is 4 with 4 left. Padres have 5 games left. So while it is not likely that we can stop them, mathematically we still can. Then you went on to say the following-

    “did not make sense. if we knock the braves out this weekend then the padres and giants are in. regardless the giants and braves are going to get in and the padres are done.” Huh?

    Read that again buddy you contradict yourself in your own statement. I’ll give you benefit of the doubt, maybe you’re at work and had to post fast, or whatever. But still at least take the time to read before you post a dispute to my statement. I did not say anything about not giving our guys the proper rest they need.
    I said “I care if we win”, and gave my reason. And as remote as the possibility is, I want Brian Bocock and every other fill-in fighting to help us beat the Braves.

     
  • Posts: 0 eSey31594

    I am happy to see that Kendrick is not in the rotation and that they are going to be down to a 4 man rotation.

     
  • Posts: 0 MikeB.

    I have to agree with Chuck in regards to jamie Moyer. If Moyer is not ready to resign himself to strictly coaching, than it would be best if he just took his pitching services somewhere else considering his increasing age and coming off of elbow problems. I find it hard to believe that they would consider using him in the post season. His usual handicapping the team right off the bat when starting by 3, 4 or more runs wears thin and must get demoralizing to the Phillies on and off offense.

     
  • Posts: 0 Nunzio Scholeri

    MikeB, you obviously weren’t paying any freakin’ attention when Moyer was pitching earlier this season. Ugh.

    Do I want him starting in the postseason? Of course not. He won’t be ready. An appearance or two would be incredible, but admittedly unlikely.

    As far as next year… if he’ll sign to a cheap 1 year deal, he’s got a good shot of still being better than Kendrick, and we’ll need a 5th starter, so… who knows.

     
 
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