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Then its a done deal if he goes with Boras. I wasnt hoping they would be a chance to resign him.

Even though I don’t think Werth is personally responsible, as inconsistent as the Phils’ lineup has been maybe it’s time for a big shake-up.

Boras usually gets top dollar for his clients, so Werth is probably gone. I just hope the team can come up with a good alternative, because Brown doesn’t appear to be ready.

Who cares? I have always felt that Werth was overrated by more than a few young beard loving Phillies fans. ;-)

And I can’t understand why Manuel keeps putting Werth in the 5th spot of the lineup (behind Howard) when he has the worst BA in the majors with RISP and leads the team in strikeouts. Put “Mr. Clutch” Ruiz there instead.

I am willing to state right now that next year….when the Phillies don’t have Werth….and have this gaping hole in their line-up….that most people that are bashing and trashing him now…are gonna be whining and complaining that the Phillies didn’t do enough to keep him.

Chuck I agree…Old man Ibanez, Maybe im Ready Brown and Victorino…next year….when Ibanez goes into his long long hitting droughts..then they will say dam I wish we had Werth in here..

WHO PHUCKIN CARES? Not signing here. Was never gonna sign here. He’s got one big contract and he’s gonna bleed any team that signs him. So what? Thats how it works. We can make do with a platoon. Werth is no superstar.

The Dipsy

Dipsy, YOU wanted him. How many contract scenarios have you suggested since last off-season?

I agree, though. This is his one shot at a big contract to set up himself and his family. And good for him. I guarantee you that all of you would do the same thing if you were in his shoes.

No matter what he does…I’ll always be a fan.

Sooooo…. platoon??? Who????

Chuck….you are thinking of someone else….I think. I did and do want Jayson to stay, but at fair value. I think I mentioned at one point that they could keep him if the Phils configured his contract a certain way but I wrote that last season or this off season. What is Werth “worth” in pure reality in Dipsyland? 5/42.5 or 3/30

The Dipsy

I’m not thinking of anybody else. Perhaps I perceived your plethora (like that word?) of contract ideas as really wanting him to stay.

What’s he worth? I don’t really know. Looks like it’s gonna be more than we all think or that the Phillies are willing to pay. By possibly hiring Bor-ass you know he’s looking for EVERY dollar.

I’d offer him 4/50 with a 5th year club option. And I think he would turn that down cause I think he really thinks ….and maybe rightfully so…that he can get more.

Chuck…he’s totally turning that down. There are no outfielders available in FA this year. I would like to go on record as saying that if Werth hires Boras while this season is still going on, that it would be a bush, classless move. Worry about a pennant, sh!tstick, and take care of your money in the offseason. Now, I’m getting worked up. I understand why his power numbers are down now. It must be hard to see a baseball when you have dollar signs blocking your pupils.

The Dipsy

As do I Chuck. Perhaps he can be had for a bit cheaper than Werth. Maybe enjoying his teammates, playing in a great town with great fans and a chance to win a WS would appeal to him? Am I F’d up to think that way?

The Dipsy

AND he can play LF, RF, 1B, 3B. How sweet is that? You could basically rotate Ibanez, Brown, Cuddyer. Put him at 3rd and spell Chase. I like it a lot.

The Dipsy

(btw I guarantee you that NJ will find some emminently plausible reason why this could NEVER happen and Andrew would just find it stupid)

P.S. No way Werth gets Holliday money. Holliday is a stud. A hitter you can build your lineup around. You shine that spotlight on Werth and he would wither away.

The Dipsy

Holliday’s not worth what he’s being paid, though.

Whats up guys , had to work all day didn’t see game. Too busy to jump
on NATION. Just read entire game day thread and checked box score
on yahoo. Listened to sports talk on the way home in car and I would say it was about 90% negative with a few people spouting the big picture argument with the braves losing and the current west coast trip.
Not much i can add that wasn’t said on gamed thread. I am very concerned though lookin forward. I think this team is what it is offensively. I dont see a switch being thrown. Pitching is better in the playoffs and i’m worried. For us winning the W.S is all that matters. I know the other N.L teams have flaws too so i’m not saying were not gonna make it . Its just that theyre all having subpar offensive years at the same time except for a few.—–be back soon for game —– peace !

Don’t need a long term answer right now. Ibanez comes off after next year. Handling next year would be just fine. I would love to trade Vic if Werth could stay on this planet as far as his price tag.

The Dispy

Boras = bye bye Werth. I like the idea of platooning Ibanez and Ben Fran. They were on fire before Charlie stopped doing it.

I read on mlbtraderumors that one GM interested in Werth doubts he can be effective in a less imposing lineup than Philly. hmmm.

Maglio Ordonez coming off the ankle injury? Too expensive?

Cuddyer is an option only if his option isn’t picked up. If he’s worth even considering at $10.5 million per, then Werth would HAVE to expect and probably WILL get more. Heck, an ancient Ibanez will be making $11 million! I’m not sure how Dipsy arrives at his values, but anyone would pay more than $30/ 3 years for an outfielder with Jayson’s numbers.

And yes, it is possible that Werth could resign, even with Boras as his agent. It’s happened before. He’s even said in the past that he wants to play for the Phils. But something about the timing of this whole thing either indicates otherwise, or that the Phils have already made an inadequate offer or told Werth they can’t afford him, and now he feels he should have the best agent he can to negotiate with other teams.

Also, I disagree that Howard was greedy. He didn’t ask for an extension; the Phils simply gave him one. Sure, maybe he was greedy for taking it, but I doubt there’s a person on this site who wouldn’t have done the same thing.

WERTH IS A SUPERSTAR dispy. I don’t know why everyone is sour, hes too expensive because he’s a 5 tool outfielder! Werth is better than Rowand, Burrell, and HE WILL BE SUCH A PHILLY KILLER if we dont sign him.

Please stay Werth, we love you

2011*

Sad note to cap off a good day.

Come to Boston baby. It will make my world around Fenway in 2011 sooooo much better.

Next season will be Domonic Brown’s chance to show why he is the Phillies top prospect and heir apparent to Right Field. :-)