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Gameday: Phillies (96-64) at Braves (90-70)

Posted by Michael Baumann, Sat, October 02, 2010 01:28 PM | Comments: 293
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Philadelphia Phillies (96-64) at Atlanta Braves (90-70)Atlanta Braves

Vance Worley (1-1, 2.25 ERA) vs. Tommy Hanson (10-11, 3.41 ERA)

Time: 4:10 p.m., Turner Field
Weather:
Partly Cloudy, 67
TV: Fox
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Last night’s meaningless game, along with San Diego’s season-saving victory over the Giants, turned out not to be entirely meaningless after all. The Braves’ embarrassing 11-5 defeat dropped their playoff probability from 96.1 percent to 85.1, and raised the Padres’ from 7.6 to 20.6 percent. With every game, it seems, this Wild Card race is getting more and more interesting. A repeat of last night’s results (an Atlanta loss and a San Diego win) would drop the Braves into a tie with the Padres, only a game behind San Francisco.

For the Phillies’ part, a victory this afternoon would tie the team’s third-highest all-time win total, set in 1993. If they finish the sweep, not only would the Phillies’ 98 wins be the most since 1977, when they won 101, but they’d win the division by eight games, their widest margin of victory in the division since 1976, when they outpaced the second-place Pirates by nine games.

For the first time in their head-to-head stretch run meetings, the Braves will have a distinct advantage in the starting pitching matchup, sending Tommy Hanson, who finished third in NL Rookie of the Year voting last season, behind Chris Coghlan and J.A. Happ, to face rookie righthander Vance Worley.

Worley, who turned 23 last week, is a former third-round pick out of Long Beach State whose major league career comprises eight innings and only 129 pitches. This afternoon he will make his fifth major league appearance and second major league start. Worley allowed two runs in five innings and took the loss in the first game of a doubleheader against Florida on September 6. Apart from that, he has thrice pitched scoreless relief innings this season. Today’s tilt will be Worley’s first road appearance in a Phillies uniform.

Today’s Lineup: Rollins SS, Polanco 3B, Utley 2B, Howard 1B, Ibanez LF, Victorino CF, Brown RF, Schneider C, Worley P

Victory Lager

Your gameday beer: Sam Adams Octoberfest
Not only is it now October, but today, as it happens, is the 32nd anniversary of the Bucky Dent home run. So in honor of a time when we felt bad for Red Sox fans, let’s throw back a seasonal Sam Adams offering. A couple interesting notes about that game: Dent only hit 40 regular-season home runs in his 12-year career, including the three-run jack off Mike Torrez in that one-game playoff. Torrez, for his part, is most famous for 1) giving up Dent’s homer, and 2) beaning Dickie Thon in 1984. However, he was the first of only four starting pitchers in the division play era to be traded and win a World Series game in the same season. The last two men to do it? Joe Blanton in 2008 and Cliff Lee in 2009. -by Michael

GO PHILLIES!

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Michael Baumann has written 229 articles on Phillies Nation.

Michael is a graduate student at Temple University who lost his childlike innocence when, at the age of 6, his dad let him stay up for the end of Game 6 of the 1993 World Series. Unsettled by the Phillies' recent success, he has threatened over the years to leave the team he loves if they don't start losing again, but has so far been unable to follow through. Michael spent 4 years as an undercover agent in Braves territory at the University of South Carolina, where he covered football and soccer for The Daily Gamecock before moving back up north. He began writing for The Phrontiersman in June 2009 before moving to Phillies Nation in January 2010.

 
 
  • NO THAT SITE IS RIGHT!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    @Jay: If the Padres win tomorrow, the West ends in a tie.

     
  • TRACEY-WONT MATTER IF BRAVES LOSE…….

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Timmy is as good as Roy and been good lately is all

    Need to gracefully lose tomorrow

    almost have to

     
  • YES -THEN THEY PLAY TO DETERMINE DIVISION WINNER AND WILD CARD…..

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    2 playoff teams wont play off for the division
    neither team would even field the game

    ok need the phillies to end so we get the whole low down

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    Yes, it will matter. The Phillies play the Wild Card. Who is the Wild Card if the Padres win and the Braves lose?

     
  • On Sunday. . .

    If the Phillies lose and the Padres lose, the Phillies will play the Reds.

    If the Phillies win and the Padres win, the Phillies will play the Giants.

    Now, here is where it gets complicated.

    If the Phillies win and the Padres lose, the Padres and Braves will play a one-game playoff at Turner Field on Monday. If the Padres win that game, the Phillies will play the Padres. If the Braves win, the Phillies will play the Reds.

    If the Phillies lose and the Padres win, the Phillies will have to wait until Tuesday to find out who they play. First, the Padres and Giants will play a one-game playoff on Monday to determine the NL West winner. The loser of that game will then fly country to play the Braves on Tuesday to determine the Wild Card winner. If the Braves win the playoff, the Phillies play the Reds. If the Padres win the playoff, the Phillies play the Padres.

    Got that?

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    Hmn… looking at the rules for division ties…
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/division_ties.shtml

     
  • YES THEY WILL PLAY ANDREW!!

     
  • IF PADS AND GIANTS FINISHED TIED,AND BRAVES LOSE-THEY PLAY AGAIN TO SEE WHO WINS DIVISION!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    It’s such a mess right now that they haven’t even announced game time for games to be played on Wednesday!

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Wait, how does the Phils-Braves matter for the Giants-Padres fight for the NL West crown?

    I thought that if the Padres win, regardless of the Phils game, they’ll tie the Giants and would have to play them again for the NL West crown on MOnday.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    @ Tracey the Giants are the WC

     
  • WE WILL PLAY THE GIANTS ONLY IF WE WIN AND THE PADS WIN TOMORROW!!!! THATS THE ONLY WAY IT WILL HAPPEN!!!!!!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    @Manny: Yeah, that’s what I thought. I’m looking at the rules, and they have a complex calculation based on how the teams played during the year to decide who is the division winner and who is the Wild Card if there is a tie in a division like that.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    why would 2 playoff teams play an extra game?
    makes 0 sense
    thats simply not happening

     
  • YOU ARE RIGHT MANNY!

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    the giants and the padres wont play
    unless the loser has to play the braves and the losers out
    there has to be a consequence or you simply forfeit

     
  • THEY HAVE 2 ANDREW-FOR SEEDING!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Terri

     
  • GUYS ITS NOT THAT HARD!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    i assure you the giants would not burn timmy if they are clinched in the playoffs

    we may call them retarded but they arent really

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Oh ok.. I guess that makes sense. If the Padres win, then there’s a tie in the NL west… but they wouldn’t play on Monday if the Braves lose because in that case the only teams left are Padres and Giants.. no need to play an extra game. I think I got it.

    So, let’s hope we lose tomorrow? Lol

     
  • TERRI-TY SAME THING I POSTED!

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    No, Andrew, that’s not the reason. The rule is that if there is a division tie and one of the teams would be the Wild Card, the tie is broken based who who won more games in head-to-head competition. Padres have beaten Giants head-to-head this year.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    • If the Padres and Phillies win Sunday: The Padres win the NL West and the Giants are the wild card.

    The phillies cannot win tomorrow
    we play before them too

    I think. gonna eat dinner and come back

    Timmy has won the last 2 Cy Youngs. him on Wed fully rested is not good

     
  • Posts: 0 Tracey

    Ah, here’s a site that lays out the rule clearly:
    “If the Padres win Sunday and the Braves lose, the Padres and Giants would tie for the National League West title, but the Padres would get the N.L. West seed in the playoffs by virtue of their 13-5 head-to-head edge on the Giants this season. ”
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/oct/02/padres-win-pull-within-one-giants/

     
  • WE CAN STILL WIN AND NOT FACE THE GIANTS-THE PADS WOULD HAVE TO LOSE THOUGH……

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    Oh damnnnnnnnnnn the Phils play at 1:30… Giants-Pads at 4….

    So we’ll probably try to win regardless!? Yikes… Then we gotta hope the Giants beat the Padres. Holy crap.

     
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. Awesome (and scary)

     
  • RIGHT MANNY!!

     
  • REGARLESS…..I’M WATCHING THE EAGLES AT 4—-LOL

     
  • Playoff implications: Hamels will probably pitch two innings. Oswalt one. Lidge one too.

     
  • Charlie said most of his regulars will be in the lineup for at least a few at-bats.

     
  • Posts: 0 biz

    LOL

    I’d like to see the Phillies finish the sweep and the giants get the win. Braves/Pads playoff giving us either the Pads or the Reds.

    Outside of the Phillies, these teams are pretty mediocre.

     
  • Phillies will at least be tied for best regular season record in MLB. One win or Yankee loss and they’ll be tops by themselves.

     
  • Posts: 0 Al

    We can still play the Giants if we lose. If the Braves and Padres win, and the Padres win the playoff with the Giants, then the Giants travel to Atlanta to play for the wild card. If the Giants win that, then we still play them in the first round. If that were the scenario, the Giants will likely use Sanchez and Bumgarner against the Padres, and then it would be Lincecum’s turn in the rotation to face the Braves. Granted, this would probably be the best-case scenario, since we would only see Lincecum once in the NLDS unless he pitches on short rest.

     
  • If 3-way NL tie, either SD or SF could have 4 games in 4 cities in 4 days: Sun in SF, Mon in SD, Tue in Atl, Wed in Phil.

     
  • BOTTOM LINE-YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    raul ibanez is hot, i love it. this team is hot, can’t cool down

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Once the Giants cant start timmy in a game 1 they are over
    thats the only thing that matters about them

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Not going to dwell on this but simply put under no circumatance can the phillies win tomorrow.
    Better start the scrubs tomorrow old man.

    1. The Phillies play the Reds if the Braves and Giants win Sunday.

    2. The Phillies play the Giants if the Braves and Giants lose Sunday.

    3. It’s TBA if the Braves and Padres win Sunday.

    4. It’s TBA if the Braves and Padres lose Sunday.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Who really cares who we play??

    All these teams…Atlanta, San Diego, San Francisco, Cincinnati….ALL of them are capable of being in the playoffs….and being a formidable opponent for the Phils.

    They are major league baseball teams that have competed all season long. There’s a reson they’ve gotten to this point in the year…they are all good teams.

    The Phillies can beat any of them.

     
  • Posts: 0 Tony

    It’s ludicrous how much fear there is of Lincecum here.

    We have THREE guys as good as Lincecum. Have no fear.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Sorry Andrew….WRONG

    You ALWAYS pull for the Phillies to win. I don’t give a f*ck who we play in the first, second or 83rd round.

    Any Phillies fan that roots AGAINST the Phillies…..in ANY game….should have his/her fan card revoked.

     
  • #2 IS WRONG ANDREW….

     
  • NO-i am sry thats right…….

     
  • Let the chips fall where they fall-BUT ANDREW WE CAN STILL WIN AND NOT FACE THE GIANTS IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY……..

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    And are you people THAT scared of the Giants??

    WE either face them in round 1…or probably round 2.

    There’s an EXCELLENT chance that the Phillies will have to play the Giants at some point.

    So just deal with it and embrace it. Enjoy playoff baseball.

    But to root AGAINST your team…just to possibly set up match-ups that maybe YOU as a fan prefer…that’s just asanine.

     
 
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