NLCS Gameday: Phillies vs. Giants, Game 4

Posted by Michael Baumann, Wed, October 20, 2010 05:19 PM | Comments: 757
2010 Gameday, Posts

Philadelphia Phillies (1-2) at San Francisco Giants (2-1)
San Francisco Giants

Joe Blanton (0-0, 0.00 ERA) vs. Madison Bumgarner (1-0, 3.00)

Time: 7:57, AT&T Park
Weather: Sunny, 62
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As demoralizing as yesterday afternoon’s loss was, a 2-1 deficit is hardly the end of the world. After all, this was exactly the position in which the Phillies found themselves through three games in the 1993 NLCS, against a far superior Braves team–and we all know how that ended. Tonight, the Phils take another crack at San Francisco, and the national audience gets its first chance to see Joe Blanton.

Blanton, for his part, recovered in a big way after a rocky start to the season. In the Big Easy’s last 20 starts, he’s 8-1 with a 3.81 ERA. For his postseason career, Blanton’s 2-0 with a 3.89 ERA in eight appearances. What’s more, he’s been a Cody Ross killer (who’d'a thought that would become important?). According to ESPN’s Stats & Info blog, Ross is 3-for-11 in his career against the former Kentucky Wildcat, but has struck out in each of his last four plate appearances.

Opposing Blanton will be Madison Bumgarner, a 21-year-old lefty out of Hickory, N.C. Bumgarner, a former top-10 pick, had the dubious distinction of being about the fifth-most-hyped rookie to make his debut in the NL at age 20 this season. If you’ve got a name like Madison Bumgarner, you either get stuffed in a locker every day of your life or you grow up to be a total badass. That Bumgarner started and won a postseason clincher on the road against Derek Lowe, 10 weeks after turning 21, suggests the latter. Still, he’s only pitched 121 major league innings, so he’s far from a known quantity.

In other interesting news, Raul Ibanez has been relieved of his place in the starting lineup. After leading the Phillies in most offensive categories in the NLDS, Ibanez has gone 0-for-11 against San Francisco. With Madison Bumgarner, a lefty who relies on power breaking stuff, on the hill, Uncle Cholly has seen fit to remove his aging left fielder and replace him with righthanded-hitting Ben Francisco. The former Cleveland Indian had a .284/.344/.557 slash line against lefties this season and was hit in the head in his only plate appearance thus far this postseason.

Game 2 Lineup: Victorino CF, Utley 2B, Polanco 3B, Howard 1B, Werth RF, Rollins SS, Francisco LF, Ruiz C, Blanton P

Victory Lager

Your gameday beer: Left Hand Sawtooth Ale

Seems to me like this postseason’s narrative has been the performance of various lefthanded pitchers. All due respect to Roy Halladay and Tim Lincecum, we’ve been hearing a lot about the continued domiance of Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels, and the emergence of Jonathan Sanchez, C.J. Wilson (today’s shellacking notwithstanding), and Bumgarner (God willing, ditto). With that in mind, today’s offering comes form Left Hand Brewing Company in Longmont, Colorado. This is a solid, medium-bodied American ale that took home bronze in its category at the 2008 Great American Beer Festival. You won’t stop going to bars that won’t stock it, but if you try it, I dare you not to like it.

- PG

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Michael is a graduate student at Temple University who lost his childlike innocence when, at the age of 6, his dad let him stay up for the end of Game 6 of the 1993 World Series. Unsettled by the Phillies' recent success, he has threatened over the years to leave the team he loves if they don't start losing again, but has so far been unable to follow through. Michael spent 4 years as an undercover agent in Braves territory at the University of South Carolina, where he covered football and soccer for The Daily Gamecock before moving back up north. He began writing for The Phrontiersman in June 2009 before moving to Phillies Nation in January 2010.

  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    Bravo Man…you S*CK. What’s over is the Braves season…you coughed up a chance at the division like the p*ssies that you are, and without Cox you are not gonna be back there anytime soon. Your pitching is even more overrated, chippers ready to go to pasture and I don’t think Braves win 85 games next year.

    Meanwhile, Phils win the division again.

    So piss off, Bravo Man.

  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    this sucks so bad…they spent ALL that money on this team and this overpaid lineup is laying a big fat egg…they need some youth injected into this lineup…they got old fast…

    meantime, lets hope this bunch of bats can put together one last run, the pitching has mostly been good..

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    We can STILL win this series……….STILL !!!! We can bitch and cry, or we can wait until tomorrow. Halladay will not be beat twice by Lincicum. We will win tomorrow.

  • Posts: 0 Terri

    This is ALL Charlie’s fault. I am filled with so much anger right now, can’t even think straight.

  • Posts: 0 Kate


    Halladay’s on a mission tomorrow. This series is coming home.

    F*ck those umps. I saw the way it was being called when Victorino walked and was called out.

    By the time they started taking the same pitches away from the Giants they were taking from our guys, it was too late.

    Phils in seven.


  • Posts: 0 jt

    Not giving the ball to doc today was a terrible move on colly part his loyalty cost us…any other manager that has a choice between blanton and hallady goes with the obvious…jeltz should go to charlie.

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    Charlie did what he thought was best. He was wrong. It’s that simple.
    We can still win this and do not be surprised if we do. However, we really need to tinker with the lineup this off season. We simply have too many old bats in there, and that includes both Rollins and Ibanez.

  • Posts: 0 jeff of Nova



  • Posts: 0 wxdavid

    the signs have been there for DAYS

  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    I’m with you Kate…trying to pick up on your optimism.

    Flyers did it earlier this year, now it’s the Phils turn. One game at a time.

  • Posts: 0 jeff

    I dont think I will get that image of utley with his head down. bad very bad.

    Charlie has no idea how to manage pitchers. They said doc went to him. he wanted the ball. give him the f u c k i n g ball.


  • Posts: 0 brooks

    So the Giants beat Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt – what we thought was our ticket into the WS and another world championship. Of course, lack of offense killed the Phils but tonight, the Giants got to Roy2 without really a problem.
    What now? Halladay pitches tomorrow night but Cholly already said this game was pivotal – this was crucial – does that mean they gave up?

  • Posts: 0 biz


    Chuck refused to pull Durbin when he was getting smacked around. He sure wasn’t going to pull Roy2 after a dribbler and an opposite field slap.

    Chuckles has no clue. Never has. Never will. But these guys wont play for anyone else, to listen to some knuckleheads tell it. Nope. They will only play for Cholly. Cause he’s their guy. And they love him. And he’s a players kinda manager. And they love him. Yep. They’d walk through walls for him. Cause they love him. They wouldn’t play for anyone else. Only for Charlie. Without Charlie they’d be scrapping to get to .500. Yep. That’s it.

  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    The Giants just seem to have that extra Magic ours is running low….

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    Geoff —- you are right. we do indeed need a youth injection in this old lineup.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    This is NOT Charlie’s fault.

    No one else could have led this team to the playoffs this year.

    I blame the offense for not producing despite the horrendous plate and first base ump and then the rest of the blame falls on the failure of the umps. Aside from Durbin, our pitching was great.

    Bottom line, it falls all on our offense, but the umps had a hand in it as well.

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    Lack of offense killed us so far. We are swinging old bats.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    No way are we wasting Roy Halladay on three days’ rest on a non-elimination game. Charlie was right when he made the call and he’s still right.

  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    Biz…lay off Chuck a bit. What, you want Bowa to come back? A screamer yeller who put way too much pressure on the guys? Charlie has his flaws, but he also has a WS, NL Pennant, 4 division titles…he’s not the players out there who aren’t delivering (Utley).

  • Posts: 0 Mike from VA

    Next year will be AWESOME, they have WERTH LEAVING, and they’ll get new faces, the pitching staff will be together and AWESOME (DOC, ROY2, COLE, JOE, and Worley? ( i like that kid)) the offense will get better, they wont accept this season, and there cant be as much injuries as this year… if you think about it’s a MIRACLE they got far… Hope they win one for Doc then go balls out 6 and 7 for fans, simply put, THEY GOT TO WANT IT

  • Posts: 0 jeff of Nova

    Bart I agree about the tinkering

    but that will not happen.

    Charlie is a hitter he mismanages pitching more than any manager in Baseball

    You Dump

    Time to get younger

  • Posts: 0 jeff

    ASIDE from durbin. Blanton was average at best. oswalt looked like s h i t. etc

  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Kate you can’t say that Roy2 was anything great tonight, Oswalt blew it.

  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    i dont they gave up Brooks its just not going our way…i dont think the Phils are just going say whatever we have no chance…they will fight…even if they going to lose the series they going to make the Giants earn it..

  • Posts: 0 biz

    This is NOT Charlie’s fault.

    No one else could have led this team to the playoffs this year.


    Yes, this team is a bunch of nobodies, right? lol

    I always laugh when I see someone say this.

  • Posts: 0 AGH

    I think the last two seasons have demonstrated how much luck is involved in winning a World Series. That 2008 team caught a ton of breaks. This team does just enough to lose to an opponent with far less talent. Too many peaks and valleys in 2010.

    Next year doesn’t look any more promising from a roster standpoint (losing Werth), but maybe we catch lightning in a bottle (like the Red Sox in 2004 and 2007).

  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    Bats were a little better tonite…

    This is baseball, 3 game sweeps happen all the time. This can still happen. Just let Halladay get the Phils back to CBP, we’ll see…

  • Posts: 0 Terri

    We had the lead, TWICE I think, but Bad BP decision cost us.

  • Posts: 0 miked63

    If it was all hands on deck why did Durbin see the mound at all. I know he’s had his moments but his stuff is just not good enough , 88 mph fastball that doesnt move , when he gets behind and his curves not effective he has to come in and he gets hammered. I know I said it three times but that decision cost the game , that and two of our big guys not producing tonite , jimmy and chase. At least jimmy had the big hit sunday whats chace done the whole series ? Ryan and Werth did theyre thing. We dont deserve to win leaving Werth on 2nd with no outs and not scoring

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart


  • Posts: 0 Mike from VA

    Atleast Eagles are 4-2 :D

  • Posts: 0 Ryan H.

    AGH. : right on man. so much luck. ball bounces this way or that way. even with the word “clutch” there’s really no such thing. it’s all luck. that’s why teams don’t go to three straight WS berths. there’s a reason it hasn’t happened since the 40′s. luck.


  • Posts: 0 MikeB.

    The umpire was unbelievably bad with the balls and strikes calls tonight and I mean atrocious but Durbin blew this game for the Phillies plain and simple. Do not want to read about how great of a middle reliever this guy is. He usually manages to give up runs when he comes in.

  • Posts: 0 Troutman

    What. A. Pathetic. Mess. Going to lose this series in 5 to a team that shouldn’t be on the same field with them. Lack of heart. Lack of brains. Really a terrible end to the season.

  • Posts: 0 Ryan H.

    no super gripes with oswalt out there. if it was a home game it woulda been lidge. but you don’t use your closer in a tie game in the 9th on the road. that’s baseball 101. and I’d rather send Wilson Valdez out there to pitch than JC or KK.


  • Posts: 0 Adam

    That game just had a losing feel. Every night there are parts of the lineup that are just black holes. Runner on second nobody out in the 8th. You have to bunt or Jimmy must pull the ball…instead….Jimmy special….weak popout. So frustrating.

    I can’t see the Phillies lineup doing anything tomorrow with Lincecum but don’t see how the Halladay loses tomorrow. If it goes back to Philadelphia there is a chance.

    It is so frustrating when your team loses to an inferior team. I think Ruben has some work to do for next year. Firstly, there is no way in hell they can lose Werth. He is just so valuable in the middle of the lineup.

    As a final thought…what are the percentages in the playoffs of lead-off walks scoring? It must be like 95%.

  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Not only that Terri – the Phils once again left a bunch of runners on base. Werth on second and nobody out. Couldn’t even move him to third??? Really?

  • Posts: 0 jeff of Nova

    I gotta tell you the part that worries me is the Roy2 pitching part

    Now the middle of the order has confidence that they can get to him if they face him again. This was not an elimination game so you don’t pull him out there should of put out Romero or KK.

    Now Roy gets the loss and hoping he is still able to go the distance in Game 6 if Doc can get us there

  • Posts: 0 AC in NJ

    Mike B hit the nail on the head. I hope the execs at MLB grade these sh*t umpires for what they are worth – NOT MUCH. These guys should not work the WS, let alone regular season games.

  • Posts: 0 SAM

    The Giants have too much fire … they want this really bad. If you looked a Madson’s face when he was pitching tonight … that was determination. I haven’t seen much of that coming from the rest of the team. These guys were last years National League Champs so, what the hell is wrong with them? It’s do or die tomorrow and I don’t want to sound negative but … how often do these things come out in favor of the Phils when they have their backs against the wall? I wish they would rise to the occassion and show the Giants what they’re made of.

  • Posts: 0 MikeB.

    Those two at bats by Francisco and Ruiz in the 8th inning were just really poor swinging at all of those outside pitches.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    F*ck the Eagles and their pet animal-abuser.

    The baseball season’s not over yet.

    As for Charlie, I point you to the DL list for the season. It was amazing that we even got into the playoffs this year with everyone but Werth and Ibanez spending significant amounts of time on the DL. Show the old man some respect. Without his leadership, our season ended somewhere in September.

    Bad offense, bad umps, that’s what cost us.

    Blanton did everything he could, but the writing was on the wall with the terrible calling behind the plate and the missed call on the balk.

    We’re lighting Timmy up tomorrow.


  • Posts: 0 jt

    The giants got more heart and jut want it moe the 08 phillies would of found a way to win this game…they do need to get ssome youth in there we will have brown in rf next year but I wouldn’t mind seeing ibanez go either and even rollins…utley looks lost out there I expected more from him but just not meant to be.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    Mike, what the hell was Chooch supposed to do? Some of those low outside balls were being called strikes.

  • Posts: 0 Roseanne Barr

    Oh, say can you see…………………………………..

  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart


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