Davey Lopes Will Not Return

Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, November 01, 2010 03:56 PM | Comments: 87
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File this one under some sad news for the Phillies. Davey Lopes will not return in 2011 as the Phillies first base coach, according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com. Lopes has spent the last four season with the club.

Lopes, 65 apparently was in a contractual dispute with the team and felt under-appreciated saying,

“We just had a difference of opinion on what I felt my worth was,” Lopes said by telephone. “That’s all. It was a really tough decision because I loved my time in Philadelphia, I loved working for [manager] Charlie Manuel, and I have the utmost respect for everyone in that organization.”

In his four years in Philadelphia, the Phillies led the National League in stolen base percentage each season. Lopes was a running guru and he will clearly be missed on the basepaths. He also had a great rapport with speedsters like Shane Victorino and Jimmy Rollins. No word yet on a replacement.

UPDATE, 5:15 pm:

Phillies Senior Vice President and General Manager Ruben Amaro Jr. made the following statement today regarding Davey Lopes:

“I found out about Davey’s decision today and clearly we are disappointed that he will not be a Phillie next season. We were hopeful that he would have remained with us as he did a fine job with our baserunners and our outfielders for the last four years.  Going forward, we will immediately begin a search for his replacement.”

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  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Just stop Jay
    Here is the only stat that matters

    Pat the Bat is the holder of 2 world series rings.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    And jay ill be here all off season
    Wasnt trying to mess with you.
    If it came off that way

  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    the braves and phils played the giants the best..they just rolled over the Rangers….good pitching almost always beats good hitting…still the Phils had plenty of chances…in my eyes we beat ourselves…not to take anything from the Giants…

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Rowand gets his second ring, neither of them as a Phillie. I thought he made a foolish decision going for the 5 yr 60m- but gave up being a WFC for us, I guess not.

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Did Cliff’s stock fall?

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    103 days seems like a long time. Many feet of snow to shovel before then. !!*%$#*(^%*)!!

  • Posts: 0 Manny

    RENTERIA MVP! So happy for the guy!

  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    I dont think so Lefty…its like saying Halladay stock fell since he gave up 2 to Cody Ross…He should of been pulled

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Wishful thinking bacardi, it was just wishful thinking. Not that we need him anymore but since RAJ said he was going to contact his agent…

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Cliffs stock didnt fall as far his contract.
    Rowand didnt earn this ring. The team slourished when he was benched.
    I forgot about him. Add his contract to the Zito one.
    Its amazing what the Giants did here. I am guessing they are thier highest paid pitcher and position player. By a good deal.

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Wow so that’s at least four guys with 2 rings, anyone else on that team have one from another team? I count Uribe,Rowand,Burell and Renteria.

  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    yeah they’ll be paying Rowand for two more years too.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Zito made $16,500,00.00
    Rowand made $13,600.000.00

    That may be the most amazing thing.

    If they were philly players wed be moaning so much we wouldnt even care about winning the series.

  • Posts: 0 jeff

    goodbye davey, keep getting rid of the garbage. how did he help us again. oh we were so great stealing bases I forgot. He is garbage.

    Wow the Giants won with scrubs. I still would take Ross over Howie in a big spot.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Wow Jeff
    Out of line. I was going to agree with your Ross statement.
    If you dont like Lopez state why. You will be the only one I think.
    We got all off season now and new year in 2011. So settle in and lets discuss. Without calling everyone and everything garbage.
    Heck I may even send an article on why Howard is over paid. Just so you can have a full on discussion about it. But lets be decent.

  • Posts: 0 biz

    Zito made $16,500,00.00
    Rowand made $13,600.000.00


    30,100,000 for absolute trash.

  • Posts: 0 biz


    No point in being decent with Jeff. He’s a scumbag. Everybody sucks, everybody’s garbage, at least, if they’re non-white. Utley seems to get a pass on everything. Yeah, I’m pretty much calling him a racist, bottom-feeder. I just hope he dies in the off season so we’re spared this 6 month dance again.

  • Posts: 0 Ryan H.

    remember the people that wanted Josh Hamilton because he was so clutch. whatever happened to those people? dude his .100 in the series. 2 for 20.

  • Posts: 0 Kate

    Let’s not talk about Josh Hamilton choking in the clutch. We’ve got plenty of our own chokers.

    The Rangers did great this year. If Nolan Ryan can manage to hold onto Cliff Lee (and if Ron Washington can stay clean), they might well be building up to a great run of seasons coming up.

    At least no one can say Cliff Lee would have won us the World Series this year.

  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Rowand had his jaw broken early in the year by a pitch and he never came back fully. Once I found that out, I more empathized with his lackluster performance than castigated him or called him ‘trash’.

    I think Rowand will be back somewhat, still a lot of baseball in that gamer. But, Cody will either be back on the bench or playing backup on another team before the year is out. Definitely he’ll forever be a trivia question from this point on. Lifetime journeyman OF, with a career BA of .265 and a hop/skip that looks like something my 4 year old grand daughter would do – oh yes, did I mention before that he wears panty hose? Nice touch.

  • Posts: 0 brooks

    BTW – think about how the Giants got to the Post season.
    – Lincecum? Very subpar year for him although in September he pitched his best ball for the season
    – their best hitter, Pablo Sandoval? Extremely flat season, he wasn’t even starting third base in September
    – Betsy Ross? No, Betsy was still on the bench
    – Zito? No, what a miserable season he had.
    – Uribe? Renteria? Edgar was on the DL for most of the year (he played in 72 regular season games)

    – Pat Burrell & Aubrey Huff took them through the month of September along with Cain (he went 5-0 in Sept) & Lincecum (5-1 in Sept with a 1.94 era) and 2 more important notes: the collapse of the Padres as well as the Rockies.

    I know some of you are thinking ‘well the 07 Phils would not have gotten to the Post Season without help from the Muts collapse’ – true, true – but the 2007 Phillies had quite a bit more promise than the 2010 into 11 Giants.

    My point, the Giants WILL NOT be back with this same cast of misfits. They may show up in the Post Season again but they certainly will not go as far.

  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    My last statement about Moyer. Its really not Moyer that I disliked. Its the fact that he was pitching on that gift two year contract that was bestowed upon him for a good 2008 season. Ruben’s mistake. He was overpaid and often ineffective. If he was making 3m a year, you would not have heard a peep out of me. Perhaps everytime I let Moyer have it I should have been focused on Ruben instead.

    The Dipsy

  • Posts: 0 brooks

    I’m glad he is not going to be starting for the Phils anylonger. I’m also glad the last game I saw Jamie pitch was in Yankee stadium – that was a classic. I don’t think it would be detrimental to see Moyer in a Phils uniform, as a pitching coach. But, perhaps Jamie believes there is more in the tank.

  • Posts: 0 Greg

    NO! not Lopes!. This is retarded. and for a contract dispute? Bring him back!
    Moyer… great guy, great presence, but let’s be honest, he’s too old to be expected to take on 20% of the starts on a playoff caliber team with a diminishing offense. He will definitely be missed, but Kendrick has proved to be an able replacement and 5th starter.

  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Moyer for President.

  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    I agree with Brooks.
    I am almost 99% sure I will pick the rockies to win the West next year.
    Giants will go down as a 1 hit wonder.
    But what a hit.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    I think that biggest impact of losing Davey will be in the clubhouse- it’s obvious that the players respected him and listened to him. If I would have guessed that one of our “base coaches” was going to be let go, I would have guessed Perlozzo was that guy. I think that Davey is a good teacher. I think that we rarely take bad risks between first and second base and he’s definitely a huge reason why. Davey took very calculated risks and that manifested itself in a very high success rate… maybe we could benefit from having someone in there who is a little more aggressive… I don’t know. I kind of lean the other way – better to be safe than sorry. I think that we would all like to see more bunting… more hit and runs and maybe we can find someone who can teach that and someone who is willing to be a little more aggressive.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    Can you tell that I’m conflicted on this one? I really think that Davey Lopes was a great coach… not sure how you can spin this one in a positive light.

  • I think losing Davy is a big loss and think he did a great job with the baserunners and stealing. But in the big picture, I think you can find a servicable replacement for him. As long as they go out and get another basestealing coach.
    I just wished he had retired instead of leaving cause the Phillies would not pony up another million or two for him. I think this is a lose they can over come. But by no means does that mean I wanted to see him go, or think that he did not do a great job, dispite being a Dodger I grew to like the guy.
    He did say winning the WS in 2008 was a bigger deal then the one he won as a Dodger, so with that I love the guy, anything the disses the Dodgers is ok in ;m;y book

  • Posts: 0 Phan in the outfield

    Finding a “serviceable replacement” doesn’t make sense to me. I keep hearing this same arguement for losing Werth. I thought the point of replacing someone was to improve. Lacking the ability to do so, you keep the ‘bird in the hand’. Is everyone so used to mediocrity that losing something that actually works well is meaningless? I really don’t understand the FO at all. They’re refusing to reward a coach & a player who’ve done the hard work & put in the time for them. — Eh, let it go, there’s better out there & they’ll come here! — Why would anyone want to be w/the Phillies when they won’t reward time & effort, they just dump you.

    I was hoping for the best during the off-season. Unfortunately It seems this may be the beginning of other questionable decisions. This news upset me.

    Did they give all the money they want to spend to Howard? I If so, I can’t say what a poor decision I think it is. I keep hearing they’re “building a team around him”. But if age & money are really the issues this team so often claims they are, then that logic escapes me. Why spend that kind of money on and build a team around a 31 yr old & then acquire expensive pitchers who’re even older? Current ages & pay below:

    J. Blanton 29 $3mil (b’day 12/11)
    R. Halladay 33 $15,750,000
    R. Oswalt 33 $15mil
    B. Lidge 33 $12mil
    P, Polanco 35 $5,166,666
    R. Howard 30 $19mil (b’day 11/19)
    J. Rollins 31 $8.5mil
    C. Utley 31 $15,285,714 (b’day 12/17)
    R. Ibanez 38 $12,166,666
    S. Victorino 29 $5mil (b’day 11/30)

    B. Francisco 29 $420k

    I saw at another site that Lopes was asking $100 – $150k. Given the salaries above, I’m frankly stunned they wouldn’t afford that.

    And if ‘youth’ & lower paychecks are the goal – then RAJ has definitely gone in the wrong direction. They’ll also need to find another excuse for not re-signing Werth b/c that doesn’t work.

  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    They pay Ryan Howard roughly $30,600 PER PLATE APPEARANCE. The fact that they can’t find another $100,000 (which is less than what they pay Howard for one game) for a coach that has had a visible impact on the team is inexcusable.

    I’m Ted Bell.

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  • Posts: 0 Brian Sr. of CO

    @Andrew, keep in mind, jeff is a moron! He can’t be out of line if he’s a moron. So much for that dynasty honestly. I have seen a vast range of posts from Davey Lopes is the best 1st base coach in baseball, to not caring if Werth goes because Geoff Jenkins was the primary starter in 2008. Well first, Davey lopes IS a GREAT 1st base coach. 2nd, How did Jenkins play this season?…exactly.

    I don’t know what to expect this season. J-Roll is declining, true he get some clutch hits, but by in large, offensively, he is declining pretty steadily, not to mention injury concerns. Raul is well, OLD, Utley had an OK regular season, and a bad post season, will he come back strong? I hope so. Werth will probably be gone, so what power do we have from the right side of the plate? All signs point to replacing Werth with Dom Brown. Not so sure Dom Brown is ready to fill Werth’s shoes, besides yet another lefty. I would rather see Raul gone, put Dom Brown in left and try to keep Werth. The bullpen needs work. Baez is flat out bad, Herndon is in the same boat. JC Romero was hot and cold, one day, lights out, the next day, a 5 run lead isnt safe. Nate Robertson was probably the worst on the team. Contreras strarted very well, and over all, he and Durbin were probably the most reliable. Once Madson went back to his set up role, he ended up doing fine, he is HORRIBLE as a closer. Can’t sugar coat it, he is flat out HORRIBLE as a closer. Lidge, after a very shaky start and injuries,for the first few months, came back pretty decent over all. FAR better than 2009 Lidge.

    Starting Pitching. Halladay was Halladay. Cole Hamels was amazing after a not so pretty start. I was scared to see Oswalt after #1 looking at his numbers historically against the NL East, and #2 his start in Washington, but WOW. Great pick up. Blanton had a mediocre year. Kendrick overall SUCKS except for those game which he was just re-called from the minors going back out there to “prove he belongs”. The problem is, GREAT pitching alone does not win games. If the Phillies only score 1 or 2 runs a game for long periods of time, losses happen. We can not expect #1 our pitching to win 90+ games. #2 If Raul has a similar year, Werth is gone, and Dom Brown has a similar year to Raul, that could be trouble.

    Obviously, health is a HUGE factor which hurt the beginning of the season, but if we do not stengthen the bullpen, and get a Right Handed power bat, it could bring trouble next season, can we expect the Phillies to finish the 2011 regular season in similar fashion as 2010? HIGHLY doubtful honestly.

  • Posts: 0 Archer

    Ruben Amaro can’t pay a pittance to Davey Lopes, but he can pay the world to Ryan “I’m overpaid” Howard. Coaching is THE key to success in professional sports. The Phillies will be less without Davey Lopes. Say goodbye to the Phils. Ruben Amaro, overrated and resting on his Stanford degree, will be the architect of the Phillies demise. Oh, and by the way, two points makes a line; Ryan Howard will continue to strike out and underperform in the playoffs. Only his apologists will continue to sing psalms in tribute to him.

  • Posts: 0 The Original Chuck P

    “Say good bye to the Phils.”

    Vegas disagrees… 6-1 odds to win the World Series (second best odds behind the Yankees).

    History disagrees… 3x defending NLE champs, WS appearances in 2 out of the last 3 years, #1 prospect in BA coming up, best record in MLB in 2010, H20 back for a full season (essentially guarantees us a postseason berth)

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