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Free Agency: Day 2

Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, November 08, 2010 03:19 PM | Comments: 45
2010-11 Free Agency, Analysis, News, Opinion, Posts

-Guess you can’t say you didn’t see this coming, but according to ESPNBoston.com, Jayson Werth is being courted by the Boston Red Sox. The Sawx are dying for offense this year after struggling for much of the 2010 season and Werth is a tools player who fits the bill. Monetarily, the Red Sox are unafraid to add big contracts and will likely have to do so to bring in Werth. We’ll keep up with this situation, but obviously Werth will let this one play out until he has several offers on the table in front of him to choose from.

-Dave Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News talked about adding bullpen help on Friday and included names like Scott Downs and Jason Frasor of Toronto, Matt Guerrier and Jon Rauch of Minnesota, and several others. Yesterday, I brought up the bullpen situation with Contreras and Durbin hitting free agency. Would you like to see them try and sign a big name or should they go with youngsters and hope they strike gold? As we found out with Danys Baez, going for a name isn’t always the way.

-Over the weekend, Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com had an idea. And it’s not as crazy as you might think. He mentions a name some of you may know well – Andrew McCutchen from the Pittsburgh Pirates. He’s a 24-year old outfielder who will soon be in line for a major raise. It’s seems unlikely the cheap-as-dirt Pirates will be able to keep him. Would he be a fit in Philly? Salisbury points to a trade of Dom Brown for McCutchen, a guy who has already tasted success as a big leaguer on a daily basis. Verrrry interesting thought.

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  • NO WAY TO THE BROWN TRADE!!

     
  • Ryan Howard surprised Eagles tailgaters yesterday. Did he make peace with fans? http://bit.ly/d1ugOv

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    What about Victorino, Kendrick, Mayberry and Bastardo for McCutchen?

     
  • Posts: 0 Keegan

    I recently downloaded this game for my Touch called 9 innings pro baseball 2011. Its a fun enough game, but the stats are totally off the wall. The have Jamie Moyer throwing 95 (I kid you not) and I’ve had Baez touch 98 with his FB. I laughed real hard.

    LOVE the mcCutchen idea. LOVE. Also like all the names Murphy threw out. All are consistent enough relievers that would be a benefit to any team.

     
  • Posts: 0 JIMMY HINNER

    SEE THEM ALL JASON THEN COME HOME TO THE PHIGHTEN PHILLIES

     
  • Posts: 0 Josh

    Can’t trade Brown now. They have put too much time and effort into making this guy the next star player for this team to trade him now. He was the one untouchable in the Lee, Halladay, Oswalt trades so they have to give him a chance to show why he was off limits for so long.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I would do the Andrew McCutcheon for Dom Brown trade in a heartbeat. ….

    As of now, Brown has really not proven himself at the major league level…and McCutcheon has.

    In fact, if you do that deal….you can move Vic in an attempt to re-sign Jayson.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dan

    So I understand that McCutchen trade. I also like that he is proven and that he is a very good player with room to grow. One thing to keep in mind though that the Pirates would maybe think about such a trade for the same reasons that the Phillies want to keep Brown.

    Brown is a cheap controllable player for a very long time. McCutchen is due for a payday and while in a couple years we may be in a better place to absorb the increase in salary, Dom Brown is cheaper for longer.

    It’s unlikely but a trade similar to the one that Bart threw out would be much better for the Phils overall. The Pirates get multiple cheaper options to spread out that financial commitment and the Phils get the one superior player. I think it would take different and better parts to take McCutchen but that is a different situation.

     
  • Posts: 0 Rob K

    While I love jason Werth as a Phillie, our money is spent better elsewhere. The Dodgers of the 60′s were great at knowing when a player “needed” to be traded……..same here in the Free Agency Era. 15-17 million can be spent more wisely in other areas.

     
  • Posts: 0 Shane

    ^This!

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    I’d have to make the McCutcheon for Brown deal. You give up a potential stud in RF, but your getting a heck of a CF.

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    If you can have McCutcheon and Werth you really solve the issue against lefties.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    I would do the Brown-McCutchen deal in a heatbeat. Have you seen that guy play? He is a true leadoff hitter. Think of a more improved, modernized version of a young Jimmy Rollins that plays Center Field

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    We would actually have to give up more than just Brown most likely too, and I’d still do it.

     
  • Posts: 0 MikeB.

    I do not like the thought of a Brown for McCutcheon deal but you would be crazy to pass up the opportunity to get a proven, still young yet player for an unproven player at the Major Leagues level.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Also…

    trade Lidge if you can. Madson as closer, sign a veteran back end reliever like Qualls or Balfour.

    I fully am in support of bringing in a lefty like Feliciano or Affeldt, because you need two lefties. ALso, fully in favor of reserving one or two bullpen spots for young relievers from our own system.

    The top two would be SCott Mathieson and Justin DeFratus

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    McCutcheon for Domonic Brown? The Pirates would be flat out insane to make that deal. Maybe for Jim Brown. If Jim Salisbury is reporting it, then I’m sure the rumor has a lot of teeth…..not. The Pirates could pluck the three best prospects from any team’s farm system for McCutcheon. The guy is a beast. I love this time of year and hate it at the same time. Its a time to dream and a time to watch a lot of dumb crap get thrown up against the wall.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    That would also be the last straw for Pirates fans though. That guy is liek all they have right now – though the rumours state this year that the Pirates WILL spend money on good players in FA

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Dipsy,

    Trade Victorino to team A for the best prospects you can get who go to the pirates. Trade Ibanez for any prospects you can get who go to the Pirates(I know it’s not a lot, but it could be something). Add Singleton for McCutcheon.

    Sign, Werth and Crawford.

    Wake up psujoe, wake up, LOL.

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Too many OFs. Just sign Werth and Diaz(to platoon with Brown).

    LF – Werth, CF, McCutcheon, RF Brown/Diaz.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Also, the Phillies Have made contact with Lee’s agent.

    From My Fox Philly

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Of course they have made contact with Lee’s agent. So have 29 other teams. It means nothing.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    I know, just trying to rile up some people

     
  • Posts: 0 Scotch Man

    Since when was Danys Baez a name? He was a mediocre closer at best. I’d like to see them ink Durbin and Contreras. Downs is attractive too. Plenty better than Romero anyways.

    As for Werthless, good riddance! He’d fit in just fine on that team full of overpaid and overrated doucebags. I’d enjoy the opportunity to watch him drop to his knees to swing at crap and then stare at strike 3 right down the pike. A perfect way to follow up Ortiz whiffing. Though I suppose he’s quite an improvement over Mr. AA Batteries.

    As for McCutchen for Brown? AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN!

     
  • Posts: 0 Pat Gallen

    Scotch Man, would you also enjoy watching him launch 40 homers over the Green Monster? Cause it would happen.

    And this McCutchen for Brown thing would OBVIOUSLY include more than Brown.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    @psuJoe – Joe…lets not get too fancy. Vic for the prospects. Take the prospects and throw in Brown and get McCutcheon. There ya go. RE: Ibanez. I would let him go to any team that would pay half of his contract for absolutely nothing. APTBNL (a player to be named later), maybe. Salisbury Steak has me all worked up with this McCutcheon thing. Thinking about reminds me when I was in high school and someone would tell me that a hot chick I liked MIGHT be at the same party I’m going to (and then never shows up). You know its bull but you keep looking for her anyway.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    And if he doesn’t launch them OVER the Green Monster, they’re doubles and he leads the AL in THAT offensive category…

     
  • Posts: 0 Scotch Man

    If Werth hits 40 dingers next season, I pledge to chug a bottle of Cutty Sarc after eating a large pizza with sardines!

     
  • Posts: 0 Bob Myers

    McCutchen is an incredible athlete all the way around. Visited a Pirates Game and saw him leap about 9 feet in the air to hit home plate as he scored a run.

    Of course, it’s probably all rumors, and I have no ability to see into Dominic Brown’s development. Didn’t see enough of him to get a clear picture. I think all Brown proved was that he’s major league material. He certainly has a long way to go to prove he will be exceptionally good.

    Keep the rumors coming, cause I miss baseball!

     
  • Posts: 0 pheeling it

    Shane is the best centerfielder, the only cheap phillie left, why would we get ride of him?

    Brown and a young minor pitcher for Mccutchen and a bullpen. If I could figure out how to spell his name. He is the righty lead-off we need. I would love to see him everyday in right field.

     
  • Posts: 0 The BIG Man

    Yeah Pat, Werth ain’t launching 40 hr’s in Fenway. He couldn’t hit 40 at CBP. Although I would love to see Scotch Man chug a bottle of Cutty Sarc after eating a large pizza with sardines!

     
  • You guys would give up brown that fast………didnt the m’s want him last year for cliff lee and the phillies said no way,so you think they would say yes for mccutchen!……….NOT HAPPENING!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 mike

    i make that trade right now

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken

    Ok you trade Brown what do you do when Raul is off the books next year?? We are back a square one.

     
  • Posts: 0 bsizzle

    McCutchen is what, a super two? So he’s going to become eligible for arbitration next offseason I think? If the Pirates can’t afford to pay to keep McCutchen through his arb years, that franchise deserves to be contracted. I usually like how Salisbury thinks, but I’m sorry that’s just ridiculous. I say that as a baseball fan.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    You mean the Blue Jays? Yes, we said no way because they wanted Drabek and Happ also. Derrr.

    The Dipsy

     
  • DIPSY-I SWEAR WE TALKED TO THE MARINERS ALSO WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO TRADE HIM EARLIER LAST YEAR,BUT THEY WANTED BROWN AND THE PHILLIES FRONT OFFICE SAID NO WAY!!

     
  • HERE IS A LTTLE BIT FROM A ARTICLE I FOUND DIPSY-There was some talk last night that the Phillies, who still have Class AAA outfielder Domonic Brown in the fold after not parting with him in last winter’s blockbuster Lee-Halladay swap, might try to get in on the Lee bidding. Re-acquiring Lee would make GM Ruben Amaro Jr. an early candidate for sainthood in Philly, where fans revere the lefty pitcher and are still upset the team did not hold on to him for a 1-2 punch with Halladay.

     
  • BUT ONCE THEY TALKED ABOUT IT THEY DECIDED NOT TO GO THAT ROUTE!

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Any team’s decision to sign (or NOT sign) Jayson Werth has absolutely nothing to do with what he’ll do in 2011. It does have a lot to do with what he’ll do in 2015, however…

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Fan

    MLB network says Phillies have intentions to make a run at Cliff Lee which I think is a good move because you can never have to much pitching look at the Giants

     
  • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

    McCutcheon is eligible for arbitration in 2013 and free agent in 2016. It is going to take a lot more than just Brown to get him. He is a proven major league player. Brown is still a prospect. And while McCutcheon is good I don’t think it answers the question about a power RH batter.

     
  • Posts: 0 Sam

    NOOOOOOO Brown Trade, If we can get McCutcheon in left that would be sweet tho after ibanez is gone. Look at the speed and tools in the outfield: Mcutchen, Brown, And Victorino…..Salivation my friends lol

     
  • Posts: 0 Bruce

    Nothing like reporting rumors to start a reaction with wannabe traders here (chuckles). Brown for McCutcheon (roaring with laughter)? That’s a good one. Looking forward to seeing Brown in RF next season. I am confident he will gradually make an impact for the Phillies next season. After all, he is a 5-tool prospect with power. Werth who? Hope he plays for a A.L. team (Boston?).

     
  • Posts: 0 jimbo

    you people are idiots. pirates are not going to trade cutch. they are finally doing things the right way and building from within via prospects. i swear you all live in a fantasy world.

     
 
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