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Wow. 8.9?? He barely did anything noticeable. Not to say he was bad or unimpressive… just that there really isn’t a whole lot to say about him. So if he has a good year in 2011 he’d get something more than an 8.9? That’s superstar territory.

I can’t really say much about Domonic Brown. He didn’t do much, and when he had a chance, what he did do wasn’t very good. I get it, I get it, he’s young & he didn’t have enough time on the field. But for crying out loud — he just didn’t live up to the hype. It would be hard to. So an 8.9, even a 7.6 seems over the top to me.

bfo: Seriously, as if the amount of money the FO might possibly pay Werth would even visit the same country as what they gave Howard. Any “mistakes” made there wouldn’t be on the same level. I also can’t believe you’d even try to use – 0.931 OPS against righties, 0.881 against lefties – those numbers as a comparison against what Werth has done for several yrs in Phila. That’s crazy. I mean be reasonable.

“Grading based on potential” LOL. Priceless.

If they graded based on potential in high school, I wouldn’t be paying off my college loans right now.

This grading system is garbage.

Not that I really care about the grading system cause in the end it’s very subjective… and I usually don’t comment on this type of posts… but the minute I saw a 8.9 for Dom Brown I felt compelled to do so.

His grading is WAY TOO HIGH — WAY TO HIGH !!!!. Although I hope he deserves this type of grade next year and I will be rooting for him every game. Do not grade on potential, as it sometimes jinxes a player and many players NEVER lived up to potential.

I like the year in review summaries, but the grading system isn’t worth much.

Phan, being reasonable is not my strong point. I do agree that one season’s stats are subject to a lot of variation – Werth in 2007-2009 had over 1.000 OPS against lefties. Just like his RISP in 2010, probably an anomaly (although his ops against righties has gone up every year since 2007 – probably due to seeing more righties).

I disagree that Werth’s contract will be in another country, though – from what I’ve read, he’s looking for 4 yr/$75M with a 5th year option/buyout. While most of the people on this site are more concerned about on the field performance, for the Phils, it’s total return on investment. Between his monster home runs and gentle giant personality, Howard is very marketable to casual fans. Werth probably could be if he wanted to, but chose not to be. In merchandise,…, Howard’s contract will pay off for the Phils.

In my perfect world, Ibanez is traded (maybe packaged with one of the 1st baseman prospects so we get something in return and don’t have to eat any salary), Werth is resigned, Brown goes to left as an everyday player, and Ben Fran is the 4th outfielder. I don’t think that will happen, though.

By the end of the season, I think Brown’s offensive numbers will be close to Werth’s. The biggest issue I see with losing Werth is the lack of a back-up centerfielder. With the way he plays, Vic is going to at least need some down time, and will likely hit the 15 day dl at least once. As the roster stands now, it would probably be Ben Fran in center, which would make for an ugly defense.

I really can’t even really properly comment because this is such a joke.

8.9?

hahaha that is a joke

Mike Stanton was in the minors when Dom Brown was proclaimed #1 in the Minors. The reason Stanton’s numbers were better than Dom’s were solely due to the fact that Stanton played every day, as opposed to Dom’s Bench role. The grading’s seem fair to me. They aren’t based on his MAJOR League Contribution, but how well he did as a Double-A player to get to the Major’s in fewer than four months.

who cares what he did in double-a….
why don’t we throw in spring training numbers then too?
he doesn’t deserve a, 8.9
that’s insane

nooo way.
they had a prolific offense this year (lineup wise) and you saw what happened….how many games did Cole lose 1-0? and Doc shoulda had 25-28 wins.

They need a righty with pop…and that righty is Jayson Werth.

The Yanks have been said NOT to go hard at him..they are throwing all their eggs in the Cliff Lee basket (and they’ll get him)….even though I’m sure RAJ will at least talk to Cliff.

They have the money…and I think Crawford goes to the Angels…and I think JW comes down to the Sox and Phils…

and Jayson sees that green monster and says..oh boy, my homerun totals might go down…

right no, I’d say its 70/30 Jayson comes back…

I think they dangle Raul out there, see if he has any takers…

but a platoon of Dom (who is still a pup) and Ben in right field would not be good…

who protects Ryan? Jimmy? Shane? Ben?

not to mention Dom is lefty…
so at times your order would go
chase ryan dom raul? all lefties??

they need jayson back and they know it

So grade him separately for the minors and majors.

I did see a lot of potential for greatness in Domonic Brown. I still do.

That doesn’t negate the fact that he made mistakes on defense that no one else (not named Chase Utley playing in the NLCS) would have made and that he hasn’t yet learned how to work against a Major League pitcher. How many ABs did he go deep into this year? I’d like to see those numbers. At least Howard (for all his potential, he didn’t have a great year by his own standards) and Ibanez managed full counts a good deal of the time before striking out.

Anyone notice how many times Ibanez went 0-2 and then more often than not worked it up to a full count? That’s a guy who knows what he’s doing from experience.

Domonic Brown (2010 minor league): I’d give him at least a 9.8.
Domonic Brown (2010 major league): A 6, at best.

He’ll get better with more experience.

Pat: If that’s the case, then please give Antonio Bastardo an 8 or higher…

The grade has to be based on his performance in 2010. What he did in 2010 was tear up double A.

He gets a gold star from me.

Anyone else receive their 2011 invoice? $2 increase accross the board… Oh well. Probably a good post would be “What to look forward to in 2011″.

1) Starting pitching has the entire season
can we really expect more of the same from Halladay?
Has Cole found consistency??
What will Oswalt do on the Phils for an entire season?
2) Does Ryan Howard know what he’s doing at the plate yet?
3) Do we try to temper our expectations with D Brown???
4) What will Rube do to replenish -
RH Power hitter
BP middle relief
BP closer
5) Will Cholly be able to do something in LF??

These are my burning questions. Without Jayson Werth, without some stability in the BP – there are too many ifs. The entire team (except for Werth and Choochie) played on a different level offensively this year than we’ve seen in the last 4, frankly, they sucked.. They were so middle of the road, not a team that looked capable of going into the post season let alone taking the grail again. I have more thoughts on Ryan Howard but I will reserve them till a later post.

RAJ will surprise us this winter. I’m not saying we will all like what he does, but it’s sure to catch us off guard. It’s what he does.

He was damn near a 10 in the minors, this grade is accurate.

His sample size from MLB is very small. And he had some big RBI’s, if you’ll recall. Remember his first AB? An off the wall, RBI double.

Do I think he may be overhyped? Yeah, but there is reason for that hype. He looks an awful lot like Darryl Strawberry.

You entertain us, we entertain you, it’s only fair.

thanks for it