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Free Agent Option: Xavier Nady

Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, December 06, 2010 12:56 PM | Comments: 121
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Now that Jayson Werth has moved on to the Washington Nationals, it’s time for the Phillies to get serious about landing a replacement for the vacancy in right field.

Just two years removed from 25 home runs and 97 RBI, outfielder Xavier Nady is looking for a home. He put those numbers together with the Pirates and Yankees in 2008, then lost nearly the entire 2009 season after undergoing Tommy John surgery. Nady’s 2010 season was a disappointment, although it was not unexpected, as he hit just .256 with six home runs in 347 plate appearances with the Chicago Cubs.

At 32-years old, Nady could be a cheap reclamation project even though Phillies supporters don’t want to take a step backward with the offense. Going from Werth to a Nady/Brown platoon would certainly equal such a move in the wrong direction, but for the price Nady would come at, it wouldn’t be the world’s worst move. Nady has some pop and after a full season to heal from the elbow reconstruction, perhaps he’ll be able to find that once again.

Playing for an awful Cubs team certainly didn’t help his value, either. Hitting within an offense that ranked 10th in runs and 10th in OPS could have been part of the reason Nady’s numbers were sapped. He also may not have been completely healthy. Whatever the case, he won’t be asking for very much on the open market and could be a viable option to platoon.

How is he against lefties you ask? Nady hits .297 for his career against southpaws with a decent .818 OPS. Not Werth-like, but not bad either.

Chances: Two out of 10 Ruben Head’s for Xavier Nady as a Phillie. I wouldn’t mind the cheap signing, but he’s a major fallback option and shouldn’t be looked at as anything more than a platoon player with the hope that he could surprise you and find the talent he flashed a few seasons ago.

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  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Minor league deal…

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    No.

    I’d rather have Matt Diaz.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I loved the Nady idea a couple of months back as a guy the Phillies could use in right this year before moving him to left as Brown takes becomes an everyday player BUT… Nady pure and simple doesn’t have the body and he all but said he can’t play everyday during this year and it’s not doesn’t look promising for him getting back to the point he can be an everyday contributor on a winner. Sad really.

    If the rumors are to be believed the Phils aren’t going to bring in anything more than a very short-term solution at most.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Shane will be worn out by Memorial Day if he has to cover the ground between Ibanez and Nady. Yikes.

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff Y.

    Need a right handed bat in the line-up.

     
  • Posts: 0 BirmCori

    Ted – Shane is going to be exhausted having to cover Left AND Right this year!

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Well, that idea that Dipsy floated a while ago is an interesting one…

    Put Chase Utley in left field which could extend his career and strengthen his offensive skills. It would require moving Raul, but if that hypothetically happened then you could move Polanco to 3rd and go after Beltre, thus providing that RH power bat.

    A lot of ifs, however, with this scenario…

     
  • Posts: 0 Pat Gallen

    Chase Utley CANNOT play the outfield. He does not have the arm for it and is too good of a defensive second baseman.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Chuck I assume you mean move Polly to second right. How much would Beltre cost? He’s rumored to have turned down 5/64 from the A’s. Could we get hime for 3/45?

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Yes, a LOT of ifs…

    For one thing, no one knows if Utley would be any good in left. For another, Raul may not be moveable. For a third, it might cost too much to keep Beltre from signing elsewhere.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    @Pat. I guarantee you that with two weeks of practice Chase Utley would be a better LF that Raul Ibanez. As for no arm, didn’t Chase start out playing third? I am sure there are a lesser arms playing LF throughout the major leagues. Additionally, Polanco at 2nd becomes a defensive upgrade from Chase. Not everbody has that luxury. Beltre would be totally sick in CBP, provided he can stay healthy. I think it’s should be explored if Beltre’s numbers are right.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Unfortunately, I got to the party late and just got to post Werth-comments a day late .. .but im still over there if people are still talking about that

    ..
    I agree that Utley should stay put at 2b for now… and that would be an absolute worst-case-scenario/ last resort kind of move to pull utley from 2b and move him to the OF … I always thought they would move him to 1b, but with the Howard extension last year, that won’t happen either.

    The utley to the OF thing is a mimimum of 3-4 years away from having any chance

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    OR put Beltre in LF. There is a reason that it is considered the least demanding defensive position on the field.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Beltre is looking for 5/90. It’s safe to say that he won’t be playing in Philly next season…

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    The A’s just pulled an offer of 5/64 for Beltre, Ted.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Beltre only plays big in Contract years… and it would be much easier to replace a LF than to move Utley, move Polanco, AND get a 3b

    it hurts the entire team by making everyone change their routine.

    ….
    The only thing hurting the Phillies at this moment is the question of WHO BATS 5th?

    I would have to assume that Victorino bats leadoff and Rollins-Ibanez bat 5th-or-6th depending on pitching matchups…

    Francisco and Ruiz are both nice 7-hitters, 8-hitters, but to break up too many Lefties in a row,

    My batting order right now would be: (assuming D.Brown isn’t ready for The Show full time yet)

    Vic
    Polly
    Utley
    Howard
    Rollins
    Francisco
    Ibanez
    Ruiz
    Kendrick

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Beltre is a good option but before trying to figure out where he could play, I ask again, how much does he want? At his age to turn down 5/64-

    I don’t know maybe the Lerner family and the Rox have changed everything now.

    Don M- I like Ordonez too.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Beltre is among the best defensive 3b in baseball… LF is for guys like Burrell, Ibanez, Gary Sheffield, etc

    Also, the point of not keeping Werth is because they are trying to get away from a team full of $15 M per season players… they need some of these younger guys to keep developing

    Polanco, Utley, Howard is still as good a 2-3-4 in the lineup as there is in Baseball

     
  • Posts: 0 Pat Gallen

    Dipsy, you put guys in the outfield when they can no longer play their position in the infield at a high level. Chase Utley is not that guy. Maybe down the road, yes, it’ll happen. But for now you don’t take a high-level 2B and put him in RF because of short term needs.

    I like the Beltre Idea and moving Polanco (somewhere)…I’ll be working on a post on that for tomorrow, just haven’t had the time.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    The A’s were about $26 million off the mark according to my calculations. Beltre wants a “Torii Hunter deal”, which is 5/$90 million. He’s represented by Boras, and after seeing what happened yesterday, I think there’s a good chance he’ll get something close to that.

    I’m Ted Bell

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Don’t be surprised if they pull something out of their rear ends. RAJ’s trademark is to do something that borders outrageous.

    Short of that, just bring in one of these Franceour, Diaz, Nady guys – theyre all the same category of player basically.

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Thanks Ted, too much to be moving all the pieces around I think.

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    In such a terrible market for SS, I’d trade Rollins (even if it means eating some money), move Polly over to short and then use that money to sign Beltre (who would rake in CBP and make up for Polly’s lack of range at SS).

    Anything but Franceour. Dear god please not Jeff Francoeur.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Beltre is not going to be a Phillie, he turned us down and he will sign at his natural gold glove position of 3rd base somewhere.

    Utley’s not an outfielder, were not talking about Chuck Knobly here being moved to left cause he can’t make the throw to 1st… Utley is the Phillies 2nd basemen until he probably isn’t a Phillie.

    Have to say I’d be scared of a line-up that has Vic up top and Rollins and Francisco behind Howard which offers no protection with probably the easiest outs in the line-up.

    The Phillies need a right handed corner outfielder that can hit for power and drive in runs to give Howard some protection and add a consistent RBI guy behind the heart of the line-up instead of free swingers.

    I would much rather try something like with Utley the only guy I think can protect Howard at this point.

    Rollins
    Francisco
    Howard
    Utley
    Polanco
    Ibanez
    Victorino
    Ruiz

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    The thing is though…if yiou are really thinking about moving Utley from 2B, then you might as well just trade him because it would be easier. That is the agenda that I am promoting here. Chase Utley is the personification of how this team is getting old.

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    Ted – Beltre’s looking for 5/$70, not $90. He’s not that crazy.

    NJ – Protection doesn’t exist, stop making lineups based on that fallacy.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Short of a trademark RAJ surprise blockbuster, just go for Franceour or Diaz.

    You might as well trade Utley if you are gonna move him off 2B, it’d be easier. I would gladly promote that agenda, because he is the personification of the “aging star” whos body is breaking down before he thought it would. I may actually be able to get him out soon.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    OR you can put guys in the OF when you have a glut of players that can play the IF at a high level. Polanco and Beltre would be those. Utley can always come back to 2B. It not a demotion or a recognition that he can’t play 2B anymore, its just an attempt to get the most bats in the lineup.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    If they let Werth go without a real offer then they won’t sign Beltre. Who is only good in contract years. Two years ago his contract was an albatross and Seattle couldn’t wait to get rid of him

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    Dipsy, this isn’t Baseball Mogul, where you can haphazardly throw excess talent in the OF and expect good things to happen. Putting an IF with no experience in the outfield would be terrible for our pitching staff, as more fly balls drop for hits and runners advance more bases due to a lack of arms. Honestly, your Manny idea was better, which is saying a lot for both this idea and your overall sanity.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I have to say as ugly as it sounds a guy who can drive in runs like Jeff Francour or Josh Willingham is a necessary evil. As much as we want to put the best producer in the vacant hole the priority is finding guys to protect the guys we need to produce.

    RAJ needs to do a little ‘Cardinal-ing’ and find some short-term solutions that allow the key components to not be handcuffed before the longer-term moves can be made.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Polanco and Utley are widely regarded as the two best hitters on the team …. meaning that you need to get them to plate as many times as possible

    Batting them 4th, 5th solves the issue of having threats behind Howard… but with a game on the line and the top of the order coming up

    I would MUCH rather Polanco batting than Francisco…. MUCH rather Utley than Howard, etc


    I think people are forgetting how good Jimmy Rollins is when healthy… I get this feeling that people are ready to write him off .. when really, he’s like 32-years-old. plays an AMAZAING defensive SS, and …when healthy… has one of the most dangerous bats on the team too

    One of the ways to keep him healthier, in my mind, is to take a few of the at-bats, and trips around the bases away from him… try to keep his legs a little more fresh, which would hopefully allow him to be more a threat when he does get on …

    no right or wrong answer there, its just a Chicken-or the Egg scenario

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    NJ – much like protection, RBIs are overvalued and don’t talk at all about the true worth of a player. Franceour can’t get on base to save his life and Willingham might be too expensive, talent wise, to acquire through trade.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    However…Franceour is still only 26, which means he could possible be “fixed” …not too bad…

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    This is a team that scored three runs or less in half of their games last season and has just lost one of their better offensive players. These names that are bouncing around (Nady, Diaz, Franceour, Hairston, etc.) are not impact players. It’s time for RAJ to do something creative, because this lineup will struggle even more in 2011 as it stands now.

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    If there is one guy that handle Manny Ramirez.. its Charlie Manuel.. that said, I can’t possibly imagine that Ruben would ever bring him in

    but he can still mash.. would love this ballpark… but would his horrible defense cancel out any benfit his bat would bring

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    @Publius – A donkey can play LF. I know. I’m a donkey and I played it. If Chase gets in the position now and plays it in spring training he will be a better LFer than Ibanez. Do you disagree? Yes, and when you have a physically gifted guy, you can put him in the OF because he has enough athletic ability to do it. Its not like you are asking Chase to replace a good fielder. Try this on for size: 3B Beltre 2B Polanco LF Utley or 3B Polanco 2B Utley LF Ibanez…what combination do you like better defensively?

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Don M – Manny’s O will always cancel out his D.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Josh

    In the case of guys like Diaz and Nady, you have to ask: Are they any better than what we already have? I think its clear that neither of these guys are.

    The Phillies already have a pretty good 4th OF/platoon player in BenFran. While I understand that both corner OF spots may benefit from a platoon situation, I think it makes more sense to add a guy who offers value as more than just a platoon corner OF. I’d like to see someone with a little more defensive versatility (play both INF and OF).

    We have seen just about everyone in this lineup get hurt over the last two years. The Phills don’t need to load the bench with one dimensional players.

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    Actually no it won’t….even in Fenway in 2007, with the short LF wall, Manny was only a 1 win player because his defense was so bad. Add 3 years of age and a bigger field, I would be surprised if Manny would come away as more than a 1 win player, which can be found cheaper elsewhere.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Whats a “1 Win” player?

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Manny is a DH, it is not a serious plan at all to try and sign him. This has less chance of happening than any other move that you could even possibly come up with.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Lefty, I did indeed mean Polanco to second. And I get it that moving Chase out there is not gonna happen….right now.

    But getting a guy like Beltre into this lineup would be ridiculously good.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    And by DH I don’t mean Designated Hitter.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I agree RBI’s can be overvalued greatly but right now I’m not looking for the Phils to add a great player so much as a guy who’s a right handed bat that can hit the ball into the outfield with authority and get some runs home. That’s not Ben Fran.

    On the outfield defensively you don’t just put guys in the outfield, you still have to put someone in a position that works for his defensive ability and experience. You prioritize catcher, SS, 2nd base and CF and you don’t move a guy out of that position unless he’s a liability.

    There’s also this myth about having a one dimensional player in left and you need a gold glover in right. It doesn’t matter the legs or fielding ability for the guy in RF so much as you need a guy with a strong enough arm to make the throw to 3rd. For us right now it’s that guy with ability to drive in 80-90 runs batting behind Howard that isn’t a glorified top of the order hitter like Rollins, Victorino or Ben Fran

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Don, we talked about that very thing a few weeks ago…..Charlie being the ONE guy that could help/deal with Manny.

    BUT….

    I really don’t want all his baggage on this team.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    If I’m looking at the bigger picture I’m hoping to hell Minnesota are cash strapped and Jason Kubel or Michael Cuddyer aren’t re-signed next year so you start this year with say

    Ibanez/Vic/Willingham

    and start next year with

    Kubel or Cuddyer/Vic/Brown

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    You know looking at Jeff Francours numbers he’s not going to walk a lot but he’s got a ballistic missile in RF and he has ALWAYS driven in runs when he’s had the chance.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    NJ, i got confused by that …. so who is your answer in RF?

    The thinking is that you can get away with a short-term solution until D.Brown is ready to play full-time, which in my opinion will be 2012

    At that point, Ibanez is gone, so the extra Left-Handed bat of Brown isn’t as much of an issue, so long as the other OF hits Righty


    My ideal player is Magglio Ordonez, a career .312 hitter, has gone 20,30+ HRs multiple times in his career…. wouldn’t be looking for anything too long since he’s already 36 or 37 … he’s the type of “puzzle piece” player the Phillies should target

    They don’t need to overspend for another “superstar” like Beltre, who, once he signs his big contract, will probably stop trying…

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    I say “NAY” to Nady. I like Willingham and Diaz better. And also, I hate to say it, Manny Ramirez might NOT be a bad one-year gamble.

     
 
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