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Free Agent Option: Xavier Nady

Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, December 06, 2010 12:56 PM | Comments: 121
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Now that Jayson Werth has moved on to the Washington Nationals, it’s time for the Phillies to get serious about landing a replacement for the vacancy in right field.

Just two years removed from 25 home runs and 97 RBI, outfielder Xavier Nady is looking for a home. He put those numbers together with the Pirates and Yankees in 2008, then lost nearly the entire 2009 season after undergoing Tommy John surgery. Nady’s 2010 season was a disappointment, although it was not unexpected, as he hit just .256 with six home runs in 347 plate appearances with the Chicago Cubs.

At 32-years old, Nady could be a cheap reclamation project even though Phillies supporters don’t want to take a step backward with the offense. Going from Werth to a Nady/Brown platoon would certainly equal such a move in the wrong direction, but for the price Nady would come at, it wouldn’t be the world’s worst move. Nady has some pop and after a full season to heal from the elbow reconstruction, perhaps he’ll be able to find that once again.

Playing for an awful Cubs team certainly didn’t help his value, either. Hitting within an offense that ranked 10th in runs and 10th in OPS could have been part of the reason Nady’s numbers were sapped. He also may not have been completely healthy. Whatever the case, he won’t be asking for very much on the open market and could be a viable option to platoon.

How is he against lefties you ask? Nady hits .297 for his career against southpaws with a decent .818 OPS. Not Werth-like, but not bad either.

Chances: Two out of 10 Ruben Head’s for Xavier Nady as a Phillie. I wouldn’t mind the cheap signing, but he’s a major fallback option and shouldn’t be looked at as anything more than a platoon player with the hope that he could surprise you and find the talent he flashed a few seasons ago.

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  • Posts: 0 George

    Geoff, according to sources, the Phils did make a serious offer to Werth. It’s just that the Nats made a totally insane offer. I still don’t think the Phils would offer Beltre what he’s asking for because they already have a good third baseman, and Utley is perfectly capable of playing second. And Dipsy, maybe Utley did start at third, but was probably moved over for a good reason–like maybe his arm wasn’t strong enough. The Phils certainly didn’t have any third basemen at the time, and were signing major league busts like David Bell, and would have probably welcomed Utley if he could have cut it at third.

    No GM in his right mind would switch everyone’s roles unless he absolutely had to. The Phils don’t have to; they just need a right-handed bat.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    It looks like the 5/90 was a little high (I had heard Heyman’s report a few weeks ago.

    From MLTR (updated today):

    Adrian Beltre’s agent Scott Boras is seeking five years and north of $70MM, tweets ESPN’s Buster Olney. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports chimes in with five years, $85MM. In mid-November, SI’s Jon Heyman had suggested a five-year, $90MM target.

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bart Shart

    Magglio Ordonez might work for us, if the price is right. He can hit.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Yes to Ordonez. Worth considering.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    My most reasonable solution barring a shockbuster move is Franceour/Brown platoon. Franceour has a big arm, big power, just needs to get a manager who can correct his approach at the plate.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    From what I’ve read, Amaro IS trying to get rid of Ibanez. I wish him luck. He may have to pay all of the salary plus some bribe money to convince Raul to waive his no-trade, and he’ll maybe get back someone who’ll be a potential AAA journeyman.

    But at least he’s trying.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Don M- I’m not fussed as long as it’s a guy suited to the role and not another Wes Helms. I don’t think Ben Fran is anywhere near good enough and consistent enough a hitter to be in the heart of the line-up so if we’re talking a one year solution that’s cheap I’m trading for Josh Willingham.

    If it’s a free agent I’m wondering why Magglio Ordonez isn’t signed and it’s probably contractual so between Scott Hairston, Austin Kearns, Milleadge, Nady, Francour and Jermaine Dye I’m going for Francour.

    This teams got to start learning to hit with less and start playing a style that moves runners on outs. I don’t think paying big and making a headline trade to replace Werth’s production is the answer.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I’ll take Ordonez. I mean, if you stop and think about this guy is the realistic answer. A pedigreed hitter, coming off an injury, right handed, might be able to signed to a one year deal. You know he can still hit. Its so logical. But I fear he’s going back to Detroit. I hope not. Guerrero is another guy in the same category, albeit a little higher priced. Can play an outfield position decently and could be gotten for probably a two, maybe one, year deal.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Ibanez isn’t going anywhere now otherwise it’s going to be one UGLY empty outfield this year.

    I don’t care about correcting Francour’s approach or giving Willingham a place he can show he can do it on a winner, or Milleadge who could stay here for years like Werth… I just care about a guy who right now can hit the ball with power into the outfield with runners in scoring position and occasionally go deep. We need our Aubrey Huff (and I mean when the Giants got him not re-signed him)

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Ordonez is worth considering, but given his age could be a right-handed Ibanez. If the solution is short term, it should at least be cheap; if it’s not, the Phils need someone younger.

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    Please realize that Francoeur wasn’t good enough to play for the Mets. Stop trying to see the “bright side.” He is an awful player that can’t get on base at anything CLOSE to an acceptable rate (barely managed a .300 OBP in 2010). Brown patrolling RF and facing lefties would be preferable (and cheaper!) than Francoeur.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Jeff Franceour has hit more than 20 HRs ONCE in his career … and has a career SLG% of .425 …

    I wouldn’t list BIG POWER as a reason to get him.. but since he’s young and has plenty of natural talent.. I wouldn’t be opposed to seeing what he can do with Charlie Manuel behind him

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    Dipsy your right on Ordonez but Vlad can’t play the field, he’s played just 20 games not as a DH in the last two years.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Vladdy CAN’T play OF anymore … I would LOVE HIS BAT, as he’s like Hall of Fame talent on offense, but he can’t play the OF, so that takes every NL team out of play for him

    Magglio can at least play the OF..

    If they want to save money and use the platoon this year, I can’t blame them though because I think D.Brown needs to play a lot, at least all the time against RHP and he needs to get some LHP at bats too

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Ok, well you want someone with that big power who hits right handed? and is consistent and can play in the field…

    then you need to free up some money…and assuming raul cannot be moved, who do you trade? That hits left or switch…

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Guerrero is seeking two years, and may get it from the Rangers. He’s also no longer a real outfielder.

    Really, there just isn’t much out there. We’ll have to hope Brown/Francisco can hold down the fort, and that the key guys rebound from last year.

    At least there are now three really good pitchers in the rotation, something that the Phils didn’t have in ’07, ’08, or ’09, so they may not need as many runs.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Vlad is a butcher in the field…plain and simple. If we think Raul sucks (which I haven’t said…but someone else….ahem… has) out there and Burrell a few years ago….what would we think watching Guerrero??

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Ordonez would be a great option, better than Beltre and moving everyone around. I’d point out that despite his age, we really need to take advantage of our window of opportunity that would appear to be closing in the next few seasons. We can’t afford to wait around too long.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Besides the hype on his arm… how good is franceour in RF?

    He’s listed again as their prime target, so I wouldn’t be surprised, or disappointed if they get him..

    They know a whole lot more than we do about what players will fit into their lineup, and fill their needs… so whatever addition they make, I trust it

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I’ve actually been impressed with Raul in LF over the past two years…. he got KILLED by fans on here before he ever played a game for us… and I think he’s definitely been better than advertised in LF

    he’s never going to win the Gold Glove, but he hasn’t been the butcher everyone was convinced he would be.

    Thats my whole point on Magglio … we have ONE YEAR with these Top 3 Pitchers … with Jimmy Rollins definitely here.. etc.. I want to go for it again, and you can get Magglio for 1-2 years, instead of Werth,etc for 5-6-7

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I’ve seen Ibanez get to some balls and make some plays that Pat Burrell NEVER would have made.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I think the appeal of Francour is he could be signed to a one year deal and could ft behind Howard as a guy who can hit the ball over the infield and drive in 80-90 runs in an almost everyday role in this line-up although his other numbers may not be impressive.

    He may not have a massive HR total but he has the power to drive in runs by getting the ball deep enough to move and score runners.

    I’m fed up of seeing the Phils get runners into scoring position early in innings and just make outs. Francour will go up there and at least put the ball in the outfield which is the appeal.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    You know if Ordonez could be had I think I’ll just go ahead and say I think we all agree we’ll take him in the blink of an eye on a one or moderate two year deal.

     
  • Posts: 0 Publius

    NJ Francoeur makes more outs than any other Phillie currently in the lineup, hence his stupid low OBP. He had a good rookie season and that’s it. His only consistent ability is to make outs.

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    I totally get that, I don’t care how many outs he makes if is role is to drive in runs or advance runners in scoring position

    Outs can be productive, that’s the reason the Giants beat us because they could get guys from 1st to 2nd on groundouts or 2nd to 3rd on flyouts. The Phillies did not move their runners and didn’t run and ended up looking like a lame duck.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    I don’t think there is any way that TAJ won’t land a big RH bat. He almost has to. He has the “Big Three” for just one more year and you kinda have to go for it, not that they haven’t the last few years. I think that Amaro is going to start looking at Upton, and for all the obvious reasons. Curiously, I don’t think it would take a ton more that DBrown to get him. If ther DBacks are gonna have a firesale, lets strap on our gasmasks.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    You’re joking, right?? Not a ton more than Brown?? It would take Brown and a few others to get Upton here. I don’t think Arizona is gonna move him in some sort of firesale.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    Chuck – Excuse me…not a firesale. I misspoike. But why would they wanna trade that guy? Its makes no sense. How about: Brown, Mathieson, Worley?

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Lefty

    Looks like a concensus on Ordonez. Dipsy I think you were touting him too, before you went on that insane Manny rant.

    Get It Done Ruben! (Like he really reads or cares about my posts)

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    I’d do that deal in a minute. But don’t you think it would take more than that? How excited is Arizona gonna be to get Mathieson and Worley?

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    RAJ can keep the big 3 together for the year after this one by exercising Oswalt’s option.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Upton would cost too much in salary.. I think people are forgetting that the Phillies want as much YOUNG, CONTROLABLE TALENT as possible …

    they can’t afford to have everyone on their team making $10-$20 M per year… not if any of us want to be able to afford tickets, unlike Yankme fans

     
  • Posts: 0 NJ

    If Arizona isn’t excited about Justin Upton who is on an insanely friendly deal then why should we be…?

     
  • Posts: 0 Dave

    Dipsy…if you were the AZ GM, would YOU trade away Upton for Brown, Mathieson and Worley? I think you’d have to add another Brown type player to the mix.

     
  • Posts: 0 The Dipsy

    @Dave. I don’t know. I have no idea what the AZ GM is thinking, Did you see what Boston gave up for Gonzalez? @DonM – Upton’s contract is cheap.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Dave, exactly my point. Arizona would have to be blown away.

     
  • Posts: 0 jt

    no ordonez we already got an old player were stuck with in raul no more then a 1 year deal if we were to pick him up.

     
  • ANYBODY BUT FRENCHY…………………

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Arizona is not marketing Upton to dump salary, they’re marketing him because he’ll get the biggest return among players they can move. He’s a rising star with a very team friendly contract that runs through 2015 – they could fill a lot of holes by trading him. If they want two young major league ready players along with two blue chip prospects (as was originally reported) the Phillies have no shot at him. None.

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    This is “cheap”….???

    $6.75 million in 2012, $9.75 million in 2013, $14.25 million in 2014 and $14.5 million in 2015.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    If you want the Phillies to be able to keep Chase Utley and Cole Hamels past their current deals .. you can’t go blowing money on random multi-millon dollar players. .

    Upton, a career .272 hitter.. with career highs of 26 HRs, 86 RBI.. is good, not great

    and not worth trading the farm for. This wouldn’t ever happen anyway, so THIS GUY is done with the pros/cons of this pipe dream deal

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Don M. -

    All you have to do is look at the Werth contract to see what a bargain Upton’s contract is. I guarantee you that Upton’s 2011-2015 numbers will eclipse anything that Werth does.

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 psujoe

    Don M.

    Upton is under contract for 5 years $50 million. That’s cheap. Cost certainty will cost in talent.

    2011 $4.25
    2012 $6.75
    2013 $9.75
    2014 $14.25
    2015 $14.50

    That’s why I’d try like heck to land him.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    That’s why it comes back to Ruben maybe NOT overwhelming everybody with some big name…just for the sake of it.

    Getting guys like Diaz, Ordonez, Francoeur for a year or two might just be what we need RIGHT NOW.

    Like I said last week…sometimes doing nothing, or doing what seems to be very little, can actually pay the biggest dividends. It’s not always the sexy names that help win champoinships.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ted Bell

    Good, but not great?? Upton is 22 freakin’ years old. He’s a week younger than our top prospect, and he already has over 1700 PAs. He’s developing at the major league level. Most players are still in the minors at his age. Our two biggest stars didn’t establish themselves in the majors until they were 25…Upton is years ahead of their development.

    I’m Ted Bell.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Id trade some package spearheaded by Brown for Upton no worries. Then I’d turn around and trade one of Ibanez (doubtful), Victorino, Rollins, Blanton, or Utley.

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Any of them will do. Rollins I’d keep thoough because I think he has one more supberb year left in him if healthy. The others, I’m not so sure.

     
  • Posts: 0 bebin

    Chase Will not be moved to LF that would just be idiotic…..If they wanted to put polanco at 2nd and find a replacement at 3rd why wouldn’t they have traded for Reynolds…he’s def really good defensively…and although he is a hack at the plate he does do well when he is healthy.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dave

    Here’s what I read on Justin Upton this morning. AZ’s GM basically says he wants 2 Justin Upton’s in return PLUS other stuff.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove10/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=5888891

     
  • Posts: 0 Geoff

    Yeah that wont happen…which is why I’d be ok with a Franceour signing.

     
 
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