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The Greatest Phillie: 2000-2010

Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, January 17, 2011 06:55 PM | Comments: 42
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Let’s discuss. It’s the slow time of year, so we want to get the baseball juices flowing. What would be better than to talk about the greatest Phillies players of 2000-2010? It’s a conversation piece with no right or wrong answer – only solid arguments backed by fact and opinion.

So tell us: who was the best Phillies player between 2000 – 2010? Yes, that’s 11 years (no, I was not a math major) but who cares. Have fun with it.

The best argument for the greatest Phillie of the decade gets a free t-shirt from Phillies Nation!

  1. Scott Rolen: Was here just 2 1/2 years, but was amazing defensively and put up solid numbers. Rubbed people the wrong way and left on bad terms.
  2. Bobby Abreu: Great offensive player, but played RF like it was little league. One of the best lefty hitters in team history was here until 2006.
  3. Pat Burrell: Pat the Bat always seemed to underachieve but in several season put up some monster numbers. Always a fan favorite, both on the field and at the pub.
  4. Jim Thome: Only spent 2 1/2 incredible seasons in Philly. Beloved by all, one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. Also helped usher in a new way of free-agent spending for a once frugal franchise. He was the one who helped open up the wallets in 2003.
  5. Chase Utley: One of the best second basemen in league history, offensively and defensively. One of the hardest workers we’ve ever seen in this town. Can basically do no wrong and has put up great numbers since joining the team full-time in 2005. Chase, you are the man.
  6. Ryan Howard: A power hitter through and through, Howard has put the Phillies on his back late in the season on more than one occasion. Perhaps the greatest masher in team history. An MVP and ROY.
  7. Jimmy Rollins: The heart and soul of this franchise for a decade; has seen his play decline on the wrong side of 30. Still, as he goes, so does this team. Also an MVP.
  8. Cole Hamels: Nearly single-handedly won the Phillies their first title in 28 years. One of the greatest playoffs we’ve seen by a pitcher in a long time. Had bad year in between four very good ones. Becoming an elite lefty in the game.

Who was the greatest Phillie of the past decade?

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  • Posts: 1 footballfan531

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    Chase Utley: In the 2007 season, Utley helped the Phillies win the National League East Division Title, while winning a Silver Slugger award. In 2008, Utley helped the Phillies win the World Series. Following the season Utley won “This Year in Baseball Awards” Postseason Moment of the Year. In 2009, Chase Utley scored over 100 runs for the fourth consecutive season. He was named by a group of panels which include Hall of Famers and major baseball award winners as the sixth best player currently in baseball. On October 28 against the New York Yankees in the 2009 World Series, Chase Utley broke the record for most consecutive games reaching base in the playoffs with 26. From 2006 to 2009, Utley leads second basemen in runs, hits, runs batted in, on base percentage and slugging percentage. He is second in home runs, third in doubles and walks.

     
  • Posts: 9 philsphan914

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    My vote came down to Ryan Howard & Chase Utley. In the end, I chose Ryan Howard. I made this decision for many reasons. The first reason is his 2006 season. Howard’s 2006 season would have proved to be one of the greatest seasons ever had Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa never taken steroids. Howard hit 58 home runs! 3 away from tying what I consider the true all-time record of 61 by Maris. In that same year, he hit .313 and drove in 149 runs. He did all of that while getting 108 walks giving him a .425 OBP. This was possibly the greatest hitting season ever by any Phillie. He broke Schmidt’s team home run record of 49 home runs by 9. He also won MVP. A second reason is his year right before this one: his Rookie Year. In 2005, he drove in 62 runs, hit .288 and hit 22 home runs in just over a half of a season. He won the ROY award making him only the 2nd player (at the time) to win ROY & MVP honors back to back. The other was Cal Ripkin Jr. With the exception of his rookie year, Howard has never finished outside the top ten for MVP. He has a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 10th place finish. He replaced a fan favorite in Thome, hasn’t abandoned the team like Scott Rolen and even though people get on him, he always finishes with very strong numbers (obviously based on the MVP voting). he also has very good postseason numbers (with the exception of a few series). If you took his bad series out, he’d have insane postseason numbers. He was HUGE in this team winning it’s second World Series, and he gets it done every single regular season.

     
    • Posts: 9 philsphan914

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      Mike Schmidt actually hit 48 home runs, not 49, for the previous Phillies home run record. Meaning Howard beat his total by 10. Sorry for my mistake. And in 2005, he drove in 63 runs, not 62.

       
  • Posts: 9 philsphan914

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    In 2005, he drove in 63* runs.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    Seriously?? Scott Rolen actually made the nomination list?

     
  • Posts: 222 tavian

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    I chose Rollins largely because he was here for the entire decade and has been productive for most of that time. If Howard were here longer, as well as Utley, they would have surpassed Rollins in my book.

     
  • Posts: 1 twosixseven

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    There’s no question: Jimmy Rollins is the greatest Phillies player from 2000-2010, if not of all time. Statiscally speaking, his numbers are only average, although as a leadoff hitter, his home run totals are above average. But what he lacks in statistics, he more than makes up for with his intensity and thousand-watt smile. No one player exemplifies the attitude of the current crop of Phillies more than Jimmy. His glove and range are almost unmatched in all of MLB baseball today. He can single-handedly put this team on his back and carry them, whether it be with his bat, glove or speed on the basepaths. And his determination and belief that his team is the “team to beat” is the attitude with which this teams owes it’s mantra to. In my opinion, Jimmy has far passed the expectations of everyone in the Deleware Valley, and hopefully will have many more seasons to prove that he is the greatest Phillie of all time.

     
  • Posts: 1 davew19061

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    Well it was really tough, I narrowed it down to either Utley, Howard or Rollins! Chase Utley though has been a mainstay on this Phillies team and has never disappointed. Granted he has been riddled with some injuries recently. But the fact of the matter, he has scored over 100 runs in 4 consecutive seasons! He plays one of the best second bases and has made countless unbelievable plays! Chase Utley has been considered the best second baseman in the major leagues for the past 5 seasons hands down until maybe last season when Robinson Cano solidified himself as the best. But definitely in the National League thats for sure. Not to mention Utley has been elected to the All-Star game for the past 6 seasons i believe, although last year could not play due to injury. He is hands down the best Phillie during the past decade!

     
  • Posts: 5229 Lefty

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    Pat your 11 year math is fine, it’s who you left off the list that’s a problem.

    Since we’re including 2010 in this equation then the answer is simple. The greatest Phillie for the last ten years not only pitched 2 no-hitters in one year, one of them was a perfect game, and the other was in the postseason. Considering that the Phillies once went 57 years without a pitcher hurling even one no hitter, I nominate Roy Halladay as the greatest Phillie in this 11 year period. The last time a pitcher threw two no hitters in a single year was 1972 Nolan Ryan- that’s 38 years ago. The last pitcher to do it in the National League was 1938 (J Vander Meer), that’s only 72 years! The last time anyone threw a no no in the postseason was 1956, in fact the ONLY other pitcher to do it was Don Larsen in 56. There is simply no doubt in my mind that the greatest Phillie of this time period, maybe of any time period is Doc Halladay. My size is XL thank you.

     
    • Posts: 5229 Lefty

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      Shoot! My math is worse than yours, Correction, Nolan Ryan pitched two in 1973, not 72

       
  • Posts: 2 Mike F.

    CLIFF LEE haha jkjk

     
  • Posts: 122 Jay aka Phillyboy

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    THE BIG PIECE!!!!!!!!!!RYAN HOWARD HANDS DOWN,NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!!!!!

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    This one is very tough for me, because my brain wants to say JRoll, he has been here for the entire time, with Chase, Ryan, and Cole, only being here for half of that time or less. So the realist in me wants to to throw my vote to Jimmy, Yet my eye’s mind I want to lean toward Howard slightly over Chase, mostly because you watch the big man play in September of ’07,’08,09 even last year before he got hurt, and he carried with this team to their first playoff in a long time, and part of it is “Get me up to the plate Boys!” that is just a classic line and then to pull through. He is a man among boys. And Chase is just been the MAN. So which way do you go. Really Jimmy played very good on bad teams for 6 of those years, so does that count as much as what the other guys did on playoff teams. I think I just answered my only question, because I am going to go with No, I think, wait maybe it should count more because he produced on bad teams. Man I am confused. Well it is time to vote and the answer is Ryan Howard

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    it does not surprise me that Chase is leading the way, though I disagree that it should be either Ryan or JRoll. But I am surprise the Big guy is not even close.

     
  • Posts: 17 derekcarstairs

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    I think that Rollins, Utley and Howard are the only three serious candidates. They have been here through all of the glory years and represent the heart of the team during the glory years.

    I voted for Rollins, but Utley is a good choice. I wouldn’t vote for Howard because he’s almost one-dimensional (but what a dimension it is).

    I chose Rollins over Utley because he’s been a regular since 2001 and because he plays a more important position. Utley is clearly superior to Rollins offensively.

    (BTW, these things are usually done by decade. 2000-2010 is an 11-year period. The decade is 2000-2009.)

     
    • Posts: 17 derekcarstairs

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      Sorry, Pat. I should have read your post, instead of skim it. You did acknowledge the 11-year period. Since 2010 is one of the glory years, why not include it?

       
      • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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        Not only did you not read the post but a decade does not start on 00, really the decade is 2001-2010. The first year was not 0 it was 1, so really 2011 is the first year of the second decade of the 21st century, just like the twenty first century started in 2001 not 2000. I know this is a sprots blog but this drives me crazy, it is like saying you have been alive for ten years when you are nine. a decade is 1901-1910 1-10 is how we count not 0-9.

         
      • Posts: 17 derekcarstairs

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        betasigmadeltashag – Not so. The decades of this century are 2000-2009, 2010-2019, 2020-2029,etc. If what you are saying were correct, the decade known as the Roaring Twenties would include 1930.

         
  • Posts: 19 yrsoprano

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    I voted for Cole Hamels because he pitched the team to a world championship. What? Does he have to do it 5 years straight to be credited for that feat? Not Halladay, not Lee have done that to date. And, Cole’s not even the ace on this team because of one sub-par season. Another discussion for another day.

    Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins had an awesome decade of winning and consistency. I think of Rollins through the 2000s being the emotional leader of the team and Utley as the quiet backbone. Day in and day out, they came to the plate and did their job and gave this team a winning attitude that can never be denied.

     
  • Posts: 147 Don M

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    This pains me… since Rollins is my favorite player on the team. I really, really wanted to choose him. But I didn’t . . I think his positive attitude, his hustle (usually), great defense, and pure sense of leadership are what makes him my favorite player.. but I didn’t choose him as the GREATEST. so first i’ll go with who else I did not choose:

    Rolen – great player defensively, very good player offensively, but neither of those two(+) seasons stand out.

    Jim Thome – gets credit for turning Philadelphia into an attractive destination, for drawing fans back in 2003, starting the energy again before we got the new ballpark.. Thanks, but you aren’t the greatest.

    Pat Burrell – anyone that hit .209 in a full season.. and .250-ish in their career can’t be all that great… and if you hit that poorly, you better hit HRs more frequently, and/or play great defense..

    Bobby Abreu – somehow won a Gold Glove… and despite his GREAT OBP%, had no desire to ever be GREAT in any other area. It is my honest belief that he would have rather taken a walk late in a close game, than delivered a clutch hit. . . he was anti-Star.. and he’s not close to Great (he was my favorite Phillies before Rollins, but the organization is much better off without him around!)

    Cole Hamels – I will defend Cole to the death in most cases.. the guy CARRIED us to a World Series Championship in 2008, a season in which is threw out his arm for the following year – and thus had people questiong his toughness, etc. . . F that… he’s awesome.. He got us a World Series.. but he’s not as great as my #1

    Chase Utley – VERY GOOD player.. I’ve been in the minority on Utley for a long time. I am very glad that he plays on our team, and feel that with the game on the line, I’d probably choose him at the plate over anyone else (except maybe polly who just never strikesout).. His defense has shown improvement over the past few years, but with that, his offense has declined.. due to injury perhaps… but if he keeps himself in the lineup when hurt – its his job to produce still … I feel like im attacking utley, and that isn’t my intent.. he just doesn’t ever carry the team for long stretches, over multiple years like the Greatest player of the past 11 years . . . RYAN HOWARD.

    “Great” is defined with words like “superior…remarkable…outstanding” … If there was ONE player of the above list that most fits those words, It’s Ryan Howard. Since his arrival the Phillies have been the team to beat in the National League … Thank Jimmy Rollins for that quote, but thank Howard for becoming the quickest in MLB History to numerous milestone marks . FASTEST PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO REACH 100 HOME RUNS… FASTEST PLAYER IN MLB HISTORY TO REACH 200 HOME RUNS… A ROOKIE OF THE YEAR.. FOLLOWED BY AN MVP AWARD IN JUST HIS SECOND FULL SEASON. . . . . Carried the Phillies in stretches, and at times when the Phillies were known as an OFFENSIVE club. In that past two seasons we have seen that switch to have us considered the team with the best rotation in baseball . . but when things turned around – it was because of Ryan Howard. Jimmy Rollins won’t be in the Hall of Fame.. Jim Thome and Scott Rolen won’t go in as Phillies (if Rolen makes it at all) . . . Chase Utley has an outside chance . . . but RYAN HOWARD WILL BE IN THE HALL OF FAME… and when its all said and done, he will be considered perhaps the Greatest Phillies player of all time … if he can win another World Series.. he’s a lock for the Hall . . . but in my opinion, he is clearly the GREATEST player of our past 11 years .. and he’s even better than sliced bread!

     
    • Posts: 19 yrsoprano

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      Good stuff, Don!

       
    • Posts: 2 clapster63

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      I would have to agree that Ryan Howard has been arguably the most productive member of the phillies for his offensive output over the past years. His defense has improved year after year. He has leadership qualities and is certainly a part of the nucleus and heart of the phillies.

      But, I would say the “greatest” phillie would have to be Jimmie Rollins.

      Jimmie displays some of the best of all categories in the major leagues. Defensively speaking, he has unbelievable range. He can turn double plays with the best of shortstops of all time. His arm strength both in the hole and up the middle is both accurate and reliable. He makes very few mistakes. Offensively speaking, he is the ultimate role player. When healthy, he is the best lead off hittter in the National League. He has speed with the best of them. He is a threat to steal bases at will. He scores runs, takes the extra base. He has power and can drive in runs.

      He is the leader and the glue to the nucleus of the team. When the phillies are without Rollins, they are at a serious disadvantage. He is a game changer when he is in the lineup. More importantly though, beyond what is stated, he gave the phillies fan a reason to believe. He was quoted as saying the Phillies were the team to beat in the National League. Boy, did he back that statement; and the team responded. The Phillies have been in the playoff picture ever since. He led by example.

      If he can regain his form of 2 years ago….hit 25 hrs., steal 45-50 bases, drive in 75-90 RBIs., stay solid defensively, and most importantly healthy, the phillies are the World Champs again. He is hands down the most valuable player to his team. He doesn’t need to be voted MVP by sports writers and his peers, he just needs to play like one. Mike Schmidt was my all time favorite Phillie, but Jimmie Rollins is the “X” factor.

       
    • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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      Very good analysis, Don and I think I would have to agree. As much as that last at-bat against SF still burns in everyone’s memories…especially people like Andrew from Waldorf with his constant “0 RBIs”….you have to look at his ENTIRE body of work.

      Even though the contract extension was premature…and I was kind of pissed at Ruben at the time…I DO think that over time Ryan Howard will will MORE THAN EARN every penny of it….and that at the end of the deal it will look like a very good deal indeed. So Ruben might actually look like a genius for locking this guy up at what will probably be BELOW market value in 5 or so years.

      And when I really think about it….of the players on this list….Ryan Howard is the one guy that if I have to get up to go to the bathroom or get something to drink….I’ll watch his at-bat first…because he has the potential to be THAT ELECTRIFYING.

       
  • Posts: 1190 Manny

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    I’m more of an Utley fan than a J-roll fan but I gave my vote to J-roll because of two reasons: 1) he actually played with the team the whole decade, and 2) he is the symbol of the rise of today’s great team. He personifies the maturation of this team –first an average team, then a 2nd place team, and now a perennial division winner. He led this process; took Ryan Howard under his wing and rallied everyone else behind him. 2007 was the tipping point for this team; the year when we all realized that this team had something special after a Jimmy-inspired rally led us past the Mets in one of the most epic comebacks in MLB history. After 2007, his MVP year, the sky seemed the limit for this team. He knew that this team had the potential to do great things, and led the way for everybody else.

     
    • Posts: 5229 Lefty

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      Wow that’s a surprise Manny, I thought for sure you would vote for Cole. Jimmy is my second pick, and I agree with everything you said. Great post.

       
      • Posts: 1190 Manny

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        Cole will be the Phillie of 2011-2020 decade ;)

         
  • Posts: 1 \'80-\'08

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    COLE HAMELS. EASY DECESION CAUSE HE WAS THE 2008 N.L.C.S. AND WORLD SERIES MVP. HE HAS BEEN A CONSTANT WORK HORSE FOR US SINCE HE STARTED PITCHING. HAS A CAREER ERA OF .353, 897 S.O. OVER 945.1 INNINGS, AND HAS 60 WINS OVER 5 SEASONS IN THE… REGULAR SEASON WITH LOW RUN SUPPORT. POST SEASON HE HAS A .333 ERA, 69 S.O. OVER 75.2 INNINGS, ONLY LETTING UP 60 HITS WITH 25 OF EM COMING IN HIS ONLY OFF YEAR 2009. HE WENT 4-0 IN OUR WORLD SERIES RUN AND SHOULD OF BEEN 5-0 (WHICH WOULD OF BEEN A POST SEASON RECORD) BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT RAIN SHORTENED GAME ROBBED HIM OF THAT RECORD. HE POSTED A 1.80 ERA THAT YEAR IN THE POST SEASON TOO. THAT IS A LOT OF THE REASON FOR THE PHILLIES SUCCESS!

     
  • Posts: 2 TM8

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    I have to give Ryan my vote. First, he is the best power hitter we’ve seen and has been such a game changing factor for his time here. Secondly, Chase’s work ethic aside, even with a big paycheck guaranteed, Ryan Howard busted his literal butt to lose the weight of half-a-human being to improve his defensive play and it paid off numerous times last year. Finally, he could have made a ton more money but made his deal with the Phils because he loves them as much as I do. Yeah, its a lot of money – be he could have tested free agency and didn’t. I’ll go ahead and give him my vote for the next decade, too.

     
  • Posts: 9 philsphan914

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    I’m shocked Howard isn’t getting more votes. It seems to me that a lot of people take him for granted sometimes. I know he strikes out quite a bit (but before his injury last year, he cut that down a ton). He hit 31 home runs and 108 RBI and we’re all wondering why he had such an off year. He has improved his defense, and lost the weight the team asked him to lose. Surprising to see the big piece so far behind.

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    it was tough for me to go with Cole is probably my favorite Philly,but he was really a six inning pitcher until 08 and really only has had two dominant years

     
  • Posts: 193 bfo_33

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    I initially voted for J-Roll, re-read the piece a few times, then wanted to take my vote back. It took me a while to sink in, but Pat asked for the best player between 2000-2010, not the player of the decade (who would have to be J-Roll, since he’s got the years). Taking it from this perspective, if I could raid the roster of any team in baseball to replace the nominees, would I?
    J-Roll – Today would go with Tulo, maybe Andrus – earlier in the decade, Jeter/A-Rod/Tejada
    Rolen – Longoria, Zimmerman
    Howard – Pujols is the only one better, several close (Ad Gonzalez, Fielder, Thome earlier in the decade,…)
    Burrell – Crawford, Manny, Werth,….
    Chase Utley ? maybe Cano, but up until this year, had mental lapses in the field
    Hamels – 2008 was a great season, but not as good as Doc’s last year, Beckett, CC, Lee have had more consistency
    Halladay ? –
    It comes down to Halladay or Utley, and I have to give it to Utley for doing it more years in Philly (plus Halladay wasn’t a choice). Not sure how many advanced statistics fans there are on this site, but over the past 5 years, Utley is second only to Pujols in total WAR – he can’t be replaced. Everyone else on the roster could be.

    I still think J-Roll is the heart and soul of the team, and Moyer is the brains and energy of the pitching staff, but Utley is the only guy can’t be replaced by raiding any other roster. He’s not perfect – needs to listen to his body better, take a day off here and there when hurting, play for the marathon, not the sprint.

     
    • Posts: 14 phillygirl17

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      I think BFO said it best. There are players on other teams that could do the jobs of any of our players, close to, or as well as, players that we have/had, except Utley. Cano had a great year, I won’t deny it, but I’m not sold on his production continuing again next year. Utley, had an off year, and his numbers would still be awesome for most players. Halladay said that Chase is the true backbone of the team. He called Utley the “Jeter of the NL” to talk about his work eithic and determination to win.

      I love the characters on our team. The Phillies together are amazing, but having to pull just one out, I would pull Utley.

       
  • Posts: 1 schmitter22

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    How did Rolen get on this list? But its gotta be j-roll, he’s our leader, our captain, he’s the guy that when he’s playing his top game the rest of the team is playing to try to keep up with him and when that happens this team is unbeatable. Howard is great i love the big piece, utley is the man and a better second basemen out there you won’t find, but for this phillies TEAM the team has been the best when j-roll is his best.

     
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    Jim Thome built CBP, but I always say when i’m down there now, it’s great to be in JRolls House. JRoll has been the Senior member of the team for so long now and his desire to make it known that the Phillies were back and ready to win again is probably the main reason I voted for him. It may not be true, but it always feels like it to me that as JRoll goes, the Phillies go. Here is to a Healthy and Prosperous, ie 3yr extension, 2011 for our Shortstop.

     
  • Posts: 31 Kate

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    I voted for Ryan Howard, but I think it should be Rollins. I voted for Howard because I honestly believe too many people are still stuck on that last ball he let by him this year, which is incredibly unfair to the Big Piece, considering what he’s done for us, and what he WILL do for us again.

    When Rollins and Burrell came up, the Phillies were horrible. They stuck it out through some tough times and were there to lead the way from last to first. You can’t put your finger on the value of a Jimmy Rollins in the clubhouse until he’s not there. He’s not always handled everything with grace, but he’s scrappy and he plays his heart out and he’s got to be in the top three shortstops in franchise history.

    Cole Hamels has the potential to be the greatest Phillie of the coming decade. Yes, even with Doc and C-Pfife in the mix for the next several years.

    Rolen’s a great ballplayer, but he wasn’t a great Phillie.

     
  • Posts: 3 Brad54

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    Chase Utley WAR: 44.3
    Jimmy Rollins WAR: 36.7
    Ryan Howard WAR: 23.3
    Bobby Abreu WAR: 34.1
    Pat Burrell WAR: 23.0

    The argument is between Utley and Rollins really if there is even an argument at all. Utley is by far the better player though, when you consider it took him half the time to contribute a significant amount more than Rollins, although I’m sure we can give Rollins some bonus points for being the heart and soul of the team and blah blah blah.

     
    • Posts: 31 Kate

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      Well, this isn’t a pure numbers decision.

      I think Rollins edges Utley because the Phillies were already on their way up when Utley came up and joined the team full-time.

      Rollins was the first part of that core to adopt the winning swagger, the winning attitude, way back when there was really no justification for it. But he KNEW. He knew the Phillies were coming up, and I think that Jimmy’s faith in the franchise *coughROLENcough* and his willingness to stick it out through those first bad years played one of the most pivotal roles in turning it around.

       
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    See…I voted for Rollins too and also think that he’s that pure “heart and soul” that MENTALLY changed this team. He had the ba!!s to say that the Phillies were the team to beat and, as contoversial as that might have been at the time, not only did he back it up but he did so with professionalism. He didn’t just shoot off his mouth and act like an a$$ like other players in the history of the game did (Rickey Henderson and Jose Reyes come to mind).

    But…..

    I get the argument for Ryan Howard, too, for all the reasons already stated.

    Chase Utley. Very good player. Not great….YET. I love Chase but I’m not on his “bandwagon” like most of this town is. I think he gets far too many passes for his weaknesses and that’s not fair. But he’s been extremely pivotal for the success of this team and it’s right to assume that, without him, there’s no WFC. So he’s in my top 3.

    Right now Cole Hamels would be my #4, and, if you posed this same question a few years from now that could change drastically for the good. I CAN’T WAIT to see what this guy does this season. I’ve said all along that I can easily see 18 wins from him this year.

     
  • Posts: 147 Don M

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    People giving WAR totals, etc…. you have to remember that a RED HOT RYAN HOWARD is/was far and away considered the most dangerous hitter in baseball for long stretches (IN THE STRETCH RUN, AUGUST – SEPTEMBER) of the past few seasons. .

    Rollins won an MVP by doing what a leadoff man isn’t supposed to do.. hitting HRs, trying to drive in runs, etc. .

    Im not sure how the WAR #s are created, but there is no possible way that Chase Utley has been “GREATER” than Ryan Howard since they’ve both played full time . . . Ryan Howard is a HISTORIC, RECORD BREAKING player.. While Chase Utley is “arguably the best secondbaseman in baseball” .. and ranked higher by things like WAR, which were only created to help Free Agents earn more money.. …

    Howard is better in all the stats that matter.. Utley might be a better player to build a team around, but I think that lots of those fastballs he’s deposited into the RF seats over the years is due to the fact that Ryan Howard is up next and teams didn’t want to give Utley a free pass .. credit to Utley for putting up great numbers, but take him out of our lineup – and Howard still produces.. take Howard out of the lineup, and i think you see a SHARP dropoff in Utley’s production!

     
    • Posts: 2 clapster63

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      Some very good points with Ryan Howard-equally with Chase Utley both in which would be very difficult to win games without their production and statistics throughout the season. Yes, you need consistent great pitching too. Great to see the Phillies have put themselves into unbelievable position with their pitching staff for 2011. Congrats. The expectation and anticipation is overwelming as a Phillies Fan!!

      Still the question remains though…who is the greatest Phillie of 2000-2010? The past…right? A team is ultimately measured by winning, simply put, hands down. Over the past 10 years, when Jimmie Rollins is on the field, in the line-up, the Phillies win more. Regardless of Howard and Utley. Yes, those 2 guys need to be productive and the Phillies are a great team…but they need Jimmie Rollins for the tangible or the intangible that he does. I won’t deny that Rollins needs them too. But Rollins is the “win” difference that gives the Phillies the edge that they need.

       
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    Let me start this post by saying that Chase Utley is my favorite Phillie of all time. His speech at the Championship parade gave me goosebumps, and is something I will never forget. However being that this question is the Greatest Phillie of the 2000′s and not the greatest Phillies player of the 2000′s, I have to go with Harry Kalas.
    Kalas meant so much to this city and overcame a ton of adversity in the beginning of his Phils career. He even passed away in the broadcast booth before a Phillies game. This man lived and died Phils baseball. Growing up a Phillies fan, there was one constant. The players changed, the manager changed, the stadium finally changed, but Harry was there.
    I cried the day he died, and I still do when reading the memorials to him. Every time I go to a game, I have to take a picture at Harry the K’s.
    It would be wrong to acknowledge anyone else as the Greatest Phillie of the 2000′s. Harry Kalas was the Phillies.
    -Brian Fox

     
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      Nevermind, I do see that it says Greatest Phillies Player of the 2000′s. However I stand by my choice, as it transcends the game.
      -Brian Fox

       
 
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