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Posted by Kieran Carobine, Tue, May 17, 2011 11:38 PM | Comments: 27
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Steve Jeltz Award: Baez/Manuel

Just when you think it can’t get any worse.

It was supposed to be a strategic move by Charlie Manuel.  With the right handed Lance Berkman coming to the plate, Manuel brought in left handed pitcher J.C. Romero to face him.  In my estimation Romero probably threw 10-12 warm up pitches before facing Berkman.  Any one of them could have been better than the one he actually offered up to him.

One pitch.  One hit.  One run.  Game over.

The Phillies were once again playing without their most valuable weapon tonight; the offense.  This is now the sixth time in their last 11 games where they have managed five hits or less.

Having now lost four games in a row, the Phillies were also swept for the first time this season.  Roy Oswalt came out firing tonight.  Against his ex-teammate Berkman, Oswalt hit 96 on the radar gun.  The adrenaline facing an old friend can do that, he was sitting regularly around 91-92 on his fastball.  Oswalt went five innings and gave up one run while throwing 76 pitches.

Michael Stutes came in to pitch the sixth inning but lasted only three pitches and was motioning towards his right shoulder as he walked off the field.  It seems he has a strained muscle in his ride side.  Kyle Kendrick came in for relief and only allowed one hit in two innings of work.

The Phillies were the last team in the majors to lose three straight games this season.  Like I said in the Gameday, and hoped it wouldn’t happen, this is the first four game skid for the Phillies since August of last season.  As a team the Phils have only scored seven runs on 17 hits during this losing streak.

We can’t entirely put the blame on Romero here.  Danys Baez was called on to pitch the ninth inning with hopes of going into extra innings.  That didn’t work out so well.  Baez allowed three consecutive singles without recording an out.  Two batters later Romero is in the game and Berkman hits a walk-off RBI single.  Cardinals win 2-1.

Ryan Howard did not reach base safely for the first time in 23 games in his hometown of St. Louis.  He was 0-4 with three strikeouts on the night.

Michael ‘Mini-Mart’ Martinez had two hits and John Mayberry Jr is now 2-2 in stolen bases against the Cardinals this season.

We all know the hitting is not there, but is Manuel misusing his pitching staff?  Should Stutes been given the night off?  Would you have let Baez face Berkman?

So many questions.   Only guarantee right now is the Phillies will be back home tomorrow to face the Rockies.  Hopefully there are some runs waiting at CBP.

The Phillies have 15 more games before a day off.  Plenty of time to actually earn it.

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  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    In Manuels defense.
    The starter had a pitch limit of 70. He only went 5.
    some of us thought he should have been pinch hit for in the 5th inning too.

    You are on the road in a tie game so that takes your closer out of the equation unless you get a lead. Which is touch to do when you score 1 run and its the result of a dropped pop up.

    What were the old mans choices? Baez or Romero?

    But think about it. Baez was not only conidered but used in a tie game in the ninth inning.

    A mojor league team shouldnt be in that position. I dont care if Conteras and Lidge are hurt. The bull pen may have done OK so far this year. And Madson is a keeper. But Kyle Kendrick is now the 8th inning man? I just dont think that will last forever.

    The pen is an issue. Not as much of one as the line up. Specificly the corner outfielders. But its an issue. Need to get a few arms there too. ESP if Stutes is going on the DL.
    Yet another factor to not blame charlie is stutes got hurt without getting any outs.
    It was kind of down to that scrub Baez who should nto be on the roster really.
    Last year proved that enough.

     
    • Posts: 0 Sam from Easton

      Please for God’s sake check your spelling and grammar before you comment. Drives me nuts.

       
      • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

        thnks 4 the lauf tonight sammy

         
      • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

        if thy haad a spell check feature id use it
        but they do not

         
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Kendrick is doing his job for the time been Andrew. How long it will last who knows. Baez should be released soon. However i think they will hold on to him tell Contreras comes back. I think Mathieson is on the roster im not sure that would of been his other choice. We know Jc an Baez are not to be trusted to hold a one run lead. Cholly hands where tied bring in JC an he walks one gives up a single maybe gets one out.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    I am not complaing about KK
    He has been super. Way better than one could ever expect
    I jsut dont think it will last. But maybe it will.
    Madson was a starter way back when.
    Maybe KK will be a good reliever that would be awesome and solve some problems
    I am jsut skeptical still.

    Usually I go back and correct some of the obvious grammar and spelling mistakes
    but in sams honor that wont be happening for a few days

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    Iwas jsut watching some of the braves hghlights.

    Mccann homers in the 9th down 1 with 2 outs to force extras then does ti agian in the 11th

    One of the big issues the phils face also is. Unlike the last 3 years this is a for real team.
    And the Marlins are pesky too.

    This isnt the Mets who wanted to fail with a 12 game lead. Both these teams scare me (braves and marlins)
    Peopel familar with me can tell you that at no point over the last 3 years down 9 games the mets or 7 to the braves last year did i ever consider they even had a chance to win the division. Not this year.

    Until I see the moves the phillies make
    I think the braves win the NL east this year if things jsut stay as are

     
    • Posts: 0 archer

      both braves and marlins will beat phils

       
  • Posts: 0 archer

    don’t panic. phils are hurt and players will return. in tbe meantime, key questions to ask are: why are the phillies constantly hurt? are they hurt more than players on other teams? do their conditioning programs need to be changed? or are their injuries just flukes? do the phillies scouts have a penchant for selecting injuy prone players? or are the players not compliant with existing traiing programs? some hard questions need to be asked because the Phils ALWAYS seem to be hurt.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Can they bring up Belliard.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Archer some good questions. Im willing to bet it’s something with the training program. Also has something to do with the age of some our players. Its hard to point out the scouts too many variables. From a logical standpoint to me i dont see that feasible. Oswalt had known back issues that was a chance we took with him.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    The phils actually traditionaly have had less injuries than teams like the mets and braves

    It is because of the age of the players

    Utleys body is betraying him. all those years playing hard at a middle infield position does that
    Oswalt hurt himself after a natural diaster

    Lidge and Conteras are just old relief pitchers. Anything the phils get from them from here on out is jsut luck and enjoy it. I expect nothing from either.

    Its nto the training or lack there of.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    How is Charlie Manuel deserving of the Jeltz??? Really??? He has what he has to work with. A lineup FULL of holes, a bullpen that needed to be re-configured DURING THE GAME and a starting pitcher that had a pretty strict pitch count.

    Is it HIS fault that Victorino is hurt and that Utley is on the DL? Is it HIS fault that Stutes injured his side after three pitches, causing some immediate bullpen shifting right then and there?

    He made the right STRATEGIC move in calling on Romero to pitch to Berkman. It’s Romero, and that stiff Baez that handed the game to the Cardinals in the ninth. But those are the pitchers that Charlie had to work with. I heard that some people were calling for Madson in that spot. That’s not how it’s done. You don’t use your closer in the ninth on the road when the game is tied.

    No…..the fault again lies squarely on the O. And on Danys Baez. Seriously….how much longer do we have to see him in a Phillies uniform??

     
  • Posts: 193 bfo_33

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    Garcia is not a bad pitcher, and has given the Phils fits in the past, but when you only give up 2 runs, you should win. Can’t blame it on the pen – this is another loss by the offense.

    On the plus side, Mayberry earned another few starts, and Martinez is making the “who to drop when Utley comes back” decision easier.

    Maybe it’s my browser, but I get a red underline on anything spelled wrong. 12 years of Catholic school – I notice misspellings, but the occasional one doesn’t bother me. Andrew, your first post was Phillies offense bad – distracting to the point where I’m not sure what you were trying to say. You get a pass for posting at 12:09am, assuming it was impacted by alcohol or sleep deprivation.

     
  • Posts: 0 Chuck

    Not only is Jaime Garcia “not a bad pitcher”…..he actually damn good. Props need to be given here. But, yeah, one run (on a GIFT dropped pop-up) is pretty bad.

    So we have Valdez, Orr and Martinez as part of that “who to drop” debate. I still think that Valdez needs to stay because of his defense and infield flexibility (how about some of his plays last night?? What???!!!). Orr still has an option left and, while seemingly better at the plate, isn’t THAT good that he needs to definitely stay. And Martinez certainly didn’t hurt his cause last night.

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    bfo – Catholic school teaches you how to write cursive with the green paper with the big lines. As far as I know, they are no better at teaching actual spelling than anyone else. This is the time of the year where I usually check out for awhile – the problems with the team are clear and well defined – and it really doesn’t do much to shout about it day in and day out. That said the Phillies, even with Chase coming back need TWO bats. Two outfielders. And a LH for the pen. Over and out. See y’all when the trade deadline approaches. Go Phils!

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 0 rob

      Time to get rid of Greg Gross. Bring back Milt Thompson…….anybody. This is the worst offense in baseball. Teach these guys some patience. Pathetic!

       
    • Posts: 0 Chuck

      Dipsy….. friend and respected poster (borrowing that from you)….you have NOTHING say for two months??

       
  • Posts: 193 bfo_33

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    Based upon the schedules over the next two weeks, I think the Phils will fall out of first. I’m also not overly concerned at this point – the schedules equal out in July.

    I like Orr’s bat, but he may be a luxury at this point, esp if Chase comes back. Martinez doesn’t quite have the arm of Valdez, but does everything else a little better.

    I agree on two bats, but think one of them is in the org already – possibly a platoon of Brown and Mayberry. I don’t expect either to be a savior (back to that Catholic education again), but a serviceable upgrade. Still need another, preferably rhb. I never really could write legible cursive, but have the scars on my knuckles to prove that nuns don’t like poor spelling. The only other areas where catholic school differed from public school was:
    - Parents had to pay extra, they weren’t going to put up with bad grades,
    - Nuns were perfectly willing to humiliate anyone who didn’t perform, vs the mentality that kid’s egos needed to be regularly stroked.

    While I think the hitting coach brings something to the table, I think they get too much credit when a team is hitting, too much blame when they are not.

     
    • Posts: 0 rob

      Martinez is useless. He should definitely be gone. Orr and Valdez are not much better. Even though I was against it, at this point, I much rather have Castillo then either of those three. At least he can get on base. I would put Castillo leadoff and Polanco second and get some baserunners aboard. I don’t put the total fault on Gross, but clearly he has not done any better than Thompson. I would rather a young hungry coach who can help these hitters with the pitchers they are facing and comeup with a game plan. I would have made sure each of the hitter took many picthes against Westbrook the other day. By the way, it sure would have been nice if we got Berkman over the winter. I am sure Oswalt could have lured him here for a discount.

       
      • Posts: 0 Chuck

        A lot of woulda, shoulda, coulda in that post.

         
    • Posts: 1435 Pat Gallen

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      BFO, you say the schedules will even out, but that’s not the point. You can’t just beat up on bad teams and expect to get by. You have to beat teams like the Cardinals, Rockies, Rangers…you’ll see this type of team in the playoffs in a few months (if they get there).

      Splitting with the Cardinals on the road would have been fine. They have to come away from this homestand at least 5-4 or there will be more worry.

       
  • Posts: 193 bfo_33

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    I realize this is a big assumption, but Rube and Co have backed it up over the pat 4 years – stay close, pick up what you need in June/July. I fully expect we will get a key contributor in the next couple of months that will help out the offense. Beating up on the bad teams, go above 0.500 on the potential contenders at home, below on the road, and we’ll be ok.

    Even with the 4 Aces, as the team stands right now, we’re looking more at a wild card than taking the division. This team is at win now mode, and will overpay (as long as it is not a long term contract) to get the missing piece(s). I don’t think we’ll clear out the farm, but also think Brown is the only untouchable in the org. I’d expect interest in Rizzoti, Mathieson, and Worley, and wouldn’t be surprised to see a pair of the three go. Maybe I’m being optimistic, but Amaro has the track record.

     
  • Posts: 79 branderson925

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    Wow, talk about fair-weather or a dedicated fan. “I usually don’t pay attention for two months” Give me a break that is pretty pathetic. Especially without other sports going on in the city to have a reason to cool on the attention for the Phils. I don’t know you at all but that’s pretty weak sauce man.

    As much as we can look at the pitching decisions for this game, the loss is ultimately the responsibility of the offensive offense. This putrid performance can not stand and frankly it’s beginning to alarm me. 1 run is almost never enough, so no matter what decision was made in the bullpen, bottom line is the offense is not earning their salaries right now (for the most part)

     
  • Posts: 0 steveg

    I watch every game and almost every inning, and have for a long time, but I have to say that this team is getting very very boring. The lineup is just pathetic. Sardinha, Valdez, Orr, Francisco, Ibanez……..it is getting extruciating to watch! It is hard getting excited about just Polanco and the 1 in 15 times Howard hits a home run. Painful!

     
  • Avatar of The Original Chuck P

    Sound the alarms – we lost three games in a row…

    In all seriousness, we just have to limp our way out of this. Injuries have hit hard and the back ups are showing why they are back ups. The good thing is that we started strong so we have some leeway. All I care about is getting into the playoffs. No reason to get all bent out of shape in May especially considering the fact that we’re still in first. We’re not going to fall out of contention… we might have a dogfight on our hands but if we’ve got all of our guys healthy, I like our chances in a donnybrook. We need guys healthy… end of story.

     
  • Posts: 0 Sam from Easton

    Here is a great FREE program that you can use anywhere for spelling. Go to Enso.com and download. By the way, I can’t stand Baez or Romero. Reminds me of the days of Mitch Williams.

     
 
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