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Phillies/Marlins Postponed

Posted by Pat Gallen, Sat, August 27, 2011 02:08 PM | Comments: 22
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UPDATE, 3:30 pm:

The Phillies announce that today’s 1:05 p.m. game has been rescheduled as part of a day/night doubleheader on Thursday, September 15 starting at 2:35 p.m.

The game originally scheduled for tonight at 7:05 p.m. game will begin at 7:35 p.m. on September 15 as the night game.

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File this one under “We told you so.”

The Phillies/Marlins game has been postponed due to rain, thanks to Miss Hurricane Irene. That means it is now a one game series; one in which the Phillies lost with their loss on Friday night, 6-5. No makeup date has been announced at this point.

The Phillies will do their best now to get to Cincinnati, where they start a series on Monday. There are all sorts of questions pertaining to the rotation at this point with Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee being pushed back, and Cole Hamels already scheduled to start Monday when he comes off the DL.

They have been answered by Rich Dubee. Hamels will start Monday, Halladay on Tuesday, and Lee on Wednesday against the Reds. Good luck, Cincy!

Anyway, enjoy your weekend the best you can!

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  • Posts: 0 Mazinman

    Well, looks like Mother Nature agrees with those of us who think our starters needs a bit more rest. I went through Irene earlier in the week. I hope all of you in the Northeast get through ok.

     
  • Posts: 5232 Lefty

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    The make up is day night DH on the 15th – it’s the only day that makes sense. Don’t know why they didn’t just announce that right away.

    Yesterday you were calling her a bitch, today it’s “miss Irene” :)

    It sounds like one of those -how do you like her now- changes in attitude. Seems this bitch is real and demanding our respect. God bless and good luck everyone, don’t think I’ll have power here much longer. No power, no sump pump, not good.

     
  • Posts: 0 BART SHART

    The rest will do the players some good. We are lucky. September will be very intense.

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Well, lets set the rotation now. Roy, Cliff, Cole, Roy, Vanimal. Pretty simple to me.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 5232 Lefty

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    They should let Vance and Little Roy battle it out the rest of the way to see who will be our 4th starter in the postseason. The 4th starter will likely only have to start 2 games tops with all the breaks/days off they schedule in. The other will be the our long reliever, if needed.

    Oswalt is more experienced and better when healthy, but I’m not sure he is fully healed. Looked like he was struggling to throw a fastball last night, FB% of pitches was low. I know they’re paying a boatload to little Roy, but winning after all, is everything.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Clearly Worley has won the 4th starter position.
    There is a 2 million buy out option for Oswalt for next year. Looks like that will have to be used. Cant pay him 16 million.

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    Oswalt had one bad inning in two games since he has been back off the DL and you have Worley ahead of him for a playoff spot. Do you even watch the Phillies? Charlie is not going to Vance out there if Little Roy is healthy enough to pitch, and that is the right decision. Roy is a proven Playoff big game pitcher, Worley is a pretty good pitcher for a Rookie, but can be very hittalbe if that is a word. Little Roy with the Proper rest can pitch in big pressure games.
    And I 100% Agree with you Dipsy, they should set up the rotation for the next few weeks. Halliday should pitch monday-Lee or Hamels on Tuesday and the other on Wed. Even if it is just until the Playoffs, just because Cole has had a lot longer time off, and think needs to start before Lee right now. Oswalt is still the number four, but I like to Keep Vance on as normal rest as possibe, and it really doesn’t matter Cause the both are goning to pitch on Thursday

     
  • Posts: 2069 Brooks

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    I dont think we would lose anything putting Worley in the 4 man rotation for the playoffs. @beta – you’re saying that Roy2 had 1 bad inning in 2 games? Two of his last 3 appearances he gave up 24 hits in 12 innings, not including the walks. Need to see more consistency before I’m convinced he is OK. Worley on the other hand has been pretty consistent and gutsy –
    Either way, its a great arguement to have – the Phils dont lose much going with Roy2 or Vanimal.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Normally Cholly would put Oswalt in but if Oswalt has 1 more bad outing an Worley continues to impress never know he might just go with Worley.

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    I tink that Lil Roy is gonna be the 4 starter in the playoffs unless his arm falls off. And he should. IMO.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 brooks

    I dont disagree that Roy deserves the starting role- he suffered long and hard, kept his competitiveness all those years with the Asblohs but if he does not show improvement, there needs to be an ultra short leash.

     
  • Posts: 3113 Tracey

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    And after all that… the storm has cleared out, and they probably could have gotten this afternoon’s game in!

     
  • Posts: 5232 Lefty

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    Why does anyone care about what someone might or might not deserve? No good manager cares about what they might have earned over a career?

    I’m just saying over the next month let one of them prove that -right now- they should be the guy. Whoever gives the team the best chance to win should play-period.

    I come from the Earl Weaver school of managing. “The hardest thing I have to do is tell someone they’re not good as the next guy, just like I wasn’t.”

    Here’s more just for fun.
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quoweav.shtml

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    Part of my point is that I do not think you can say Vance is the better pitcher for a playoff start, the other half of my point is if you watch Charlie manage over the years you would know that he is very loyal to his players and will start Roy 2 over Vance in a playoff game. And if I remember correctly for this years playoffs there are not as many days off as in the past. Example is the middle three games of the seven game series there are no days off. So if you go seven games it will be played in 9 days. Also i think there is only one day off if the first round goes five games between series. Which I think was the plan start early shorten playoff days off and finish the WS in October when it should be finished.

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    It would be nice to have a post to argue about today, Livining in VT I have no golf or work today because of the fear of Ireane, just rain right now and I am looking for some good conversation.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Oswalt was WHIP over 1.4 this year.

    I know you dont grasp it but thats horrible. It doesnt get much worse than that.
    Anywho I cant educate everyone. And need to stop trying.

    Funny they can play 2 in baltimore today but phils canceled 2. Maybe they want to have a bunch of games in sept and figure to have a lead and will rest players. And its to thier benefit.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Just to help some of you noodle it through.
    In ALL of baseball for every pitcher who has pitched this year.

    Worley is 95th in WHIP

    Oswalt is 338th

    Was a heck of a bad inning I guess. Am I the only one who watches the games and understands good and bad play without emotional involvement with individual players.
    Common sense stuff. When my best friends horse is a bad bet I bet against him.
    You guys would definately bet with your heart. Thats why 99.999% of people who gamble are losers. Im sure you would be married to your cards in poker and players in fantasy sports too. I am not in either case. Players are like cards. Sometimes you fold and get some new cards/players.

     
  • Posts: 0 Mazinman

    Phillies need to be careful in September. They have a 6 game lead over Atlanta and a 5.5 game lead over Milwaukee for the best record in the NL. Neither of those numbers are really huge when one considers the Phillies play both those teams in this month and both are really hot, especially Milwaukee. I would REALLY not want to give up home field to the Brewers.

    As for Oswalt and Worley, knowing Charlie, unless Oswalt has an absolutely terrible September there is no way he won’t get the 4th spot

     
  • Posts: 5232 Lefty

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    @mazinman, I agree we don’t want to give the Brewers home field. But keep in mind that after today we will have 5 games in hand against them. That makes their 5.5 game lead – well, totally misleading.

    At some point during the last 33 games we will win 5 more games, stretching that lead to an 8 game lead over them. Same with Atlanta, we have 4 games in hand with them, so at some point we will win 4 games making that an 8 game lead as well.

    I also agree that is likely what Charlie will do, although sometimes I wonder if it is Charlie that makes the decision to always play the guy making the most money, or the organization putting pressure on him to do so. It seems odd to me that he consistently backs the guy with the largest salary.

    I really wish guys would earn playing time based on present performance, it’s the way I always coached kids, and my coaches when I was younger as well. IMO- It makes you hungrier for playing time.

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    I wouldn’t say Charlie always backs guys making the most money, he played Wreth over Jenkins and Jenkins was the high paid free agent signing. I know that is only one case. But I just think Charlie trust the vetrens in pressure situations. And to the migty one AIW, I would take Roy 2 in a game 4 over Worley I do not care what his WAR is which to me is really an arbitraty stat if there ever was one. For every rookie that has pitched well in the playoffs there is three that get shelled. It is just an entirly diffrent ball game.

     
  • Posts: 5232 Lefty

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    Beta they did play Jenkins too long. And everyone else they gave bad contracts to. Adam Eaton, Raul, Lidge- the list goes on and on. If healthy they would have let Blanton pitch this year due to his contract and we never would have seen Vanimal. Do you think Blanton could pitch better than Worley has?

     
  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    I know everyone here hates Raul, and he has been more streaky then I would like, but he is better then Dom Brown. Eaton the let go and still paid him, Realy you are going to throw Lidge in there. He pitched well in the 2009 playoffs one blown save, but you were going to trust Madson that year he was shaking in his boots every time he had the chance to close a game. Jenkins played about a month before he was platooned with werth then played about another four weeks before he became a PH and PR. how is tha too long. I do not disagree that Charlie likes the veterens my point was I really do think it is Charlie’s choice not managment saying we are paying these guys you have to play them

     
 
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