Halladay Struggles; Young Relievers Look Sharp in Loss

Posted by Amanda Orr, Wed, March 14, 2012 04:30 PM | Comments: 12
2012 Spring Training, Posts

The Phillies lost to the Minnesota Twins in Clearwater, 6-4.

Roy Halladay didn’t have his best outing as he allowed five earned runs over 2 and 1/3 innings. Two of the seven hits he allowed were home runs.

Joe Savery, Michael Stutes, and Michael Cisco each looked sharp out of the bullpen. Savery pitched 1 and 1/3 scoreless innings while Stutes put in two. Both Savery and Stutes struck out two and did not walk a batter. Cisco retired the side in order. Also, Jake Diekman showed some promise by striking out the side.

Carlos Ruiz (2-for-2), Placido Polanco (2-for-4), Freddy Galvis, and John Mayberry Jr. each drove in runs for the Phillies.

Howard update: Ryan Howard spoke to the media today. Howard is in a boot, still healing from his infection in his Achilles heel. Howard is on antibiotics and must wait for the skin to heal before removing the boot. Although cleared for some minor workouts, Howard has no timetable for his return.

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  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Sounds like the infections was minor and typical thing when people are recovering from surgeries. So it looks like this will set him back another 2-3 weeks from a unknown time frame. His Achilles might be better but i bet those muscles in that area are weak right now. I dont think we will see Howard till about July.

  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    Maybe Doc is getting past his prime, Maybe they should look to move him this spring, sign Cole and get some major league ready bats for third and left field young guys maybe it is time to start rebuilding

    • Posts: 1135 EricL

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      Maybe you’re outta your friggin mind.

      He was a goddamn 7.4 rWAR pitcher last season. After winning the Cy Young award the previous season. Doc is still one of the top 3 pitchers in the game. Relax.

      This is nothing. It’s spring training. He was working on his changeup today, so he didn’t really care about the results, he was just working on his repertoire.

      • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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        Surprised you fell for that Eric, it was my attempt to poke fun at some on here who place way too much on spring training resaults the pos, t that follows this got it. do not get your panties in a bunch it was a joke, but you really need to place everything in your baseball life on a random stat that one is truly arbitrary of some obscure “replacment player” which in reality should be different for every position and team depending on whom they are replacing and with whom they replace him with. I know you think sabremetrics is the only thing that matters. Yet the guy who based his team on this to begin with has won nothing and outside his first teams which made it to the playoffs, have been pretty bad for the last few years. And even the low payroll team that has proven to be some what succesful does not base there contracts soley on those numbers.

  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Surely you Jest Beta. However, what you said has some merit. At some point they will have to trade some of these guys and rebuild. My guess it starts when Utley tenure is up.

  • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

    I’m more worried about the infield, but some scouts are wondering about Roy:


  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    Did someone actually suggest that the Phillies should think about moving Roy Halladay???!!! Because of one lousy SPRING TRAINING game where he was working on stuff?? Jesus, this fanbase is fickle..

    • Posts: 32 kittykat

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      Yeah, just ask Cole Hamels who BTW now looks like he will be the 4th starter again behind Worley. Did I miss something here that Cole Hamels is now BEHIND Vance Worley? To pitch the home opener? They never cared about him pitching the home opener before.

      • Posts: 0 Dave P

        That’s not a knock on Hamels. They want to split up he lefties and the righties. Also, remember a couple of years ago they wanted to split up the blantons and the kendricks, so that had ace, joe, ace, KK, ace. This is kind of the same – if the rotation does end up being Halladay, Lee, Worley, Hamels, Blanton, you’ll usually end up with two aces in a 3 game series, with the exception being when Worley pitches game 1 of the series.

      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Dave P, to be honest I don’t remember splitting up the aces. Not on purpose anyway. Of course it happens with rainouts etc.

        The idea of pitching Hamels 4th the first time around may be simply to line him up for the home opener. They can easily then shift him back to 3rd over the following week or two.

  • Posts: 0 Don M

    Yea nobody should worry about what # any of these guys are in the rotation – until the playoffs….

    I’m sure Hamels would rather start the Home Opener, than game 3 of the seasons – a getaway day vs. Pittsburgh. . .

    Makes you wonder if they’ll think about a postseason rotation of Lee- Halladay- Hamels … instead of Halladay starting Game 1 …

  • Posts: 993 betasigmadeltashag

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    OK in case some of you did not get it, I was joking, I know sarcasim does not play well on the written page, but I was hoping it was meant to focus on the absurdity of some fans and spring training

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