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RISP Woes Plague Phils in Loss to Giants

Posted by Corey Seidman, Wed, April 18, 2012 01:08 AM | Comments: 73
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Placido Polanco is batting .179 this season.

The Phillies had a chance to win their second straight series at AT&T Park on Tuesday night, but that’ll have to wait 24 more hours. The Giants were victorious, 4-2, as Joe Blanton lost his second game of the season.

- The Phillies’ struggles with runners in scoring position reared their ugly head again. The Phils were 1-for-11 with RISP, delivering only one run in such situations despite having runners in scoring position in six different innings.

- Placido Polanco continues to look like he’s completely done. In the top of the fifth inning, Polanco came to the plate with Freddy Galvis on second base with two out. It was the kind of situation in which you used to feel confident in Polly. Now, not at all. He can’t drive the ball, he can’t make solid contact of any kind. Another 0-for-4 night dropped his average to .179, and he has just five line drives in 33 balls put into play. It’s gotten so bad for Polanco that he did his little “home run hop” on a fly ball to center field in his fourth at-bat. He’s so unused to good swings right now that he thought THAT was a real charge.

- John Mayberry hasn’t been much better than Polanco. The power we saw in 2011 is nowhere to be found, but it would be nearly impossible for Mayberry not to run into 8-10 homers as the season goes on. So at least with him, there’s a bit of room for optimism. His swing is just too long right now. When the Phillies loaded the bases with no outs in the sixth inning, Mayberry weakly popped out to first base on a fastball right down the middle. His head wasn’t on the ball.

- The Phillies stole two more bases Tuesday. They are 12-for-13 swiping bags.

- Madison Bumgarner was hittable and this game was winnable. These are the ones that frustrate you… not because the Phillies fell to 5-6, but because this looked like the kind of game they could lose in the playoffs. Starter gives up three or four runs, offense can’t capitalize on opportunities.

It’s a familiar formula. And it can happen easily when a team refuses to walk (they had one on Tuesday) and seldom produces extra-base hits.

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  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Corey your last paragraph struck a accord with me. Especially “this looked like the kind of game they could lose in the playoffs. This is exactly what i was thinking once the eight inning rolled around. If Polly doesnt come around at some point the Phils are in bigger trouble that once thought. I hate to say the its still early line however im at the point where im really wondering about Polanco right now.

     
  • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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    Corey, I found out the other day that it’s okay to accept that Polanco has no power and is playing like he is completely done. I suggested replacing him in the lineup for a few days, just as an experiment, and (with the exception of Chuck A), I got skewered by the commentariat for it.

     
  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Well Lefty, I wouldn’t be too concerned. I’m pretty sure that a physical ailment will show up which will be directly attributable to his batting performance. Look for a stretch coming up soon with Poly on the DL and I mean real soon.

    As for Mayberry, do you let him hit through this? Not that there is a lot to choose from but he is also lost at the plate. If either of these 2 were even making decent contact, I think the outcome last night would have been different anyway.

    So, Poly down, Luna up? He so impressed during ST he needs to have a shot.

     
  • Posts: 0 schmenkman

    “…he has just five line drives in 33 balls put into play.”

    Just to put this in perspective, based on his career average, he would now have 7 line drives (22.4% of balls in play).

     
  • Posts: 2990 Chuck A.

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    schmenkman….please stop somehow trying to justify how good Polanco is for this lineup right now. The dude is LOST at the plate and the O is suffering from it. I don’t disagree that FOR HIS CAREER he is the better player than Wiggy or anyone else we could put out there. But I think we’re past talking about career averages here. This is the present, he sucks at the plate and the Phillies don’t really have a lot of viable LONG-TERM options.

    You could put Orr out there, Wiggy,….hell, even try Galvis and put Orr at 2B. And, yeah, I think the DL stint that brooks suggests could happen soon. So I think Luna should get a shot.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Chuck, I’ve never used Polanco’s career averages to imply that that would be indicative of what he can do now. I have used last year’s stats to show that unless he somehow got MUCH worse in the offseason, he is still the better player, current slump notwithstanding.

      The point above was that even at his career average, we would only expect TWO more line drives so far this season — well within normal variation.

       
      • Posts: 530 Bruce

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        It seems that just after ELEVEN games, there are several here who want to give up on Polanco and substitute anyone from the bench regardless of their limitations. I’m curious if their definition of a “slump” means he can’t hit anymore? Or.. that it is temporary and he needs to have that chance to work himself out of it with playing time? After all, now is not the time to panic after less than TWO weeks of the season. :-)

        I see no sign of possible health issue with Polanco other than his rhythm and timing of his bat stroke that seems off. That fits the definition of a “slump” that all players go through during the season. Unfortunately, for Polanco, the start of the season magnifies his current problem with the fans who are impatient and wants the team to get off a good start.

        I rather have Polanco and his gold glove at 3rd base regardless of his current slump to protect the pitching we have. After all, Charlie Manuel wants him there. And he knows that Polanco is due to contribute in his offensive scheme of “smallball”. Something that fans overlooked at times in their desire for the team to score a bunch of runs.

         
      • Posts: 0 Teen Wolf Blitzer

        It’s not actually 11 games that Polanco has been this bad. If you look back to last May 1, it’s been 112 games (including the NLDS). He’s hit about .230 and had only 9 extra base hits during that time. Almost a full calendar year with nine extra base hits.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Yes, agreed, and in spite of that he was still a top-ten third baseman overall last year, due to his excellent fielding:

        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=3b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0

        The objective of course is not to just score more runs. Over time, the best predictor of wins is the difference between runs scored and runs allowed. A run saved is as important as a run scored (to paraphrase Ben Franklin).

         
  • Posts: 0 Dave

    Playoffs? Let’s try and get over .500 first and out of last place.

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    IF Polanco is done or close to done
    IF Mayberry is really just a .240 guy
    IF Utley can’t play anymore
    IF Howard is not at full strength again till next year
    IF The Phils and Hamels can’t get together on a contract

    What do you do in August with this team when you’re 5 1/2 back?

    Its not a crazy scenario. In fact, I think it somewhat likely.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Let’s do the math on the likelihood of this scenario:

      Polanco: 30%
      Mayberry: 70%
      Utley: 10%
      Howard: 30%
      Hamels: 20%

      30% x 70% x 10% x 30% x 20% = 0.1% (1 in 1,000). If that’s what you mean by “somewhat likely”, than I agree.

       
      • Posts: 1190 Manny

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        haha, well said schmenkman.

         
  • Posts: 2990 Chuck A.

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    Well, Dipsy….5 1/2 back in August really wouldn’t be that bad. In fact, I’ll go on record as saying that I wouldn’t be shocked if the Phillies were FURTHER back than that on Aug 1. No trying to be negative or anything like that – I’m a pretty big homer and always try to look positively at this team. But right now, there are some glaring realities as you listed. A lot of very big IFs – actually I think that 3 of the 5 “ifs” will become “whens” – choose as you like.

     
  • Posts: 2990 Chuck A.

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    schmenk, if you think that there’s only a 30% chance that Ryan Howard isn’t a full strength til next season then you are either 1) dreaming 2) smoking something 3) naive.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      I’d like to have Howard at anything close to full strength, but in any case, let’s say that it’s 100%:

      30% x 70% x 10% x 100% x 20% = 0.4% (1 in 250)

       
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Schmenkman – respected poster and guy who knows his shit – I think Utley is done. Period. I also think that Hamels having not signed already is a very bad sign…very bad. I disagree with your likelihood evaluations on these two occurrences. I agree that Polly is probably slumping. Bottom line – What do you do with Hamels on August 20th when he’s unsigned and you’re out of it because – in my mind – if he’s not signed by 8/20 – he’s not gonna sign.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Anyone recall how far out of first the Phils were in 06?
    5 1/2 games should be a piece of cake to make up, especially if you go on a September tear.

     
    • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

      Brooks, that was six years ago. These aren’t the same players unfortunately.

       
  • Posts: 2990 Chuck A.

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    brooks, in order to go on a September tear you need Ryan Howard at close to full strength. And I just don’t see that happening. But I hope I’m wrong.

     
  • Posts: 0 BobS

    Last night’s line score

    Phils – 2 runs on 8 hits and no errors

    Giants – 4 runs on 13 hits and two errors

    At least for last night, the worse fielding, better hitting team won. Or maybe the Giants manager feels like his pitcher can thow an out against a no pop, no walk offense when needed to hide some of the defensive lapses. I also have to question Dubee’s approach to preparation when I see so many runs scored against our pitchers in the first inning

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      If you look at most pitchers’ stats, you’ll probably find that the majority of runs are scored against them in either the first few or the last few innings. Sometimes it takes a pitcher an inning or two to find that “groove,” and it has nothing to do with the coaching and probably more to do with an unfamiliar mound, an unfamiliar umpire’s strike zone, getting used to what his own pitches are doing in that day’s weather conditions, and what the hitter is looking for that day. You can’t blame the coach for any of that.

       
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Further to George’s point, these are ERAs by inning across the NL in 2011:

      1st through 9th:
      1) 4.54, 2) 3.15, 3) 3.99, 4) 3.87, 5) 3.45, 6) 4.28, 7) 3.98, 8) 3.55, 9) 3.39

      1st is worst, and then they finally get to the starter around the 6th

      http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/split.cgi?t=p&lg=NL&year=2011#innng::none

      Only the Dodgers allowed fewer runs in the 1st inning last year:

      http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/split_stats_lg.cgi?full=1&params=innng%7C1st%20inning%7CNL%7C2011%7Cpitch%7CAB%7C

       
  • Posts: 1190 Manny

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    Two thoughts regarding Mayberry and Polanco:

    MAYBERRY: I was listening to LA while watching it and he’s right… Mayberry’s swing looks long and robotic. Last year he had a much better swing, with quicker hands. I think that at some point he’ll fix this and his numbers will improve.

    POLANCO: Take him out of the 2-hole for a couple of games or just give him a couple days off. Give Chooch a couple shots in the 2-hole (I can dream, right?) or let Shane bat second with Pierre batting first (the Charlie-route). More likely than not, he’s not “done” so you gotta be a little patient with the guy… it’s not like he’s hurting us defensively, too.

     
    • Posts: 0 Don M

      If Pierre is in the lineup, he’s gotta bat leadoff . . . .and I would go Rollins, Vic, Pence … 2-3-4-

      WIthout Pierre, i’d start it with Rollins, Vic, Pence …1-2-3

      Get your best hitters the most at bats. . . There is no reason why Polanco (or Ruiz, or whoever would bat 2nd) .. should get an extra at bat in a game before Hunter Pence or Victorino ….. Vic should NEVER bat 5th in my mind (as long as Utley and Howard are missing from the lineup) .

       
    • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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      A trial for a couple of days was all I wanted to see. I hope he isn’t declining rapidly, we need him. But dual surgical procedures in the off season could easily slow the bat. Once considered an excellent contact hitter, he also seems to be striking out a lot more this year compared to career norms.

      http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1176&position=2B/3B

       
  • Posts: 0 schmenkman

    Pop quiz: How did the Phillies hit with RISP in 2011?

    Answer: .269 average, 2nd in the NL

    Point is simply that RISP stats fluctuate quite a bit, and if that’s one the offense’s main problems, it’s a good one to have because it’s just as likely to suddenly correct itself as it is to persist.

     
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    THe preview for THE FRANCHIS – Showtime following the Miami Marlins dropped today (or yesterday) .. it looks good . Gotta love that between The Franchise and 24/7 Road to the Winter Classic .. Philly fans have been given an inside look to some of their most recent, big rivals (Pens, Rangers, SF Giants, Miami Marlins)

    of note . . . . a scene where Jose Reyes and Hanley Ramirez are playing MLB The SHOW – Ramirez is playing with the Phillies (Reyes with the Red Sox, Hanley’s old organization) … and the scene they show has Ramirez batting with digital-Ryan Howard … who K’s (but hey, at least he was swinging!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWjmh6SOAr0&feature=youtu.be

     
  • Posts: 0 schmenkman

    Interesting article on Halladay over at FanGraphs, if you haven’t seen it…

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/roy-halladay-in-relief-of-roy-halladay/

     
    • Posts: 1190 Manny

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      That’s a great article!! Roy Halladay is a beast.

       
    • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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      Thanks Schmenkman, good stuff. I have always believed that all pitchers get in jams, the very best pitchers are the ones that get out of them. The take that he went into “shutdown reliever mode” was an excellent point I’d never thought of.

       
      • Posts: 1190 Manny

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        “Efficient mode” and “beast mode.” It’s crazy to think that when he’s out there pitching normally he’s just trying to get outs with the least amount of effort required, but when he gets into a jam, he turns on “beast mode” and BAM, game over. Meanwhile, most other pitchers either have a lite “beast mode” or are always pitching at their max every single pitch.

         
      • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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        I think this guy has an even higher level, that very few have. “Doc Mode”

         
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Do you guys really think that the batting order makes a difference with this offense? It doesn’t. This team is in “hold down the fort” mode. This really sucks.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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      I normally agree with most of your comments friend, you know that. But yes I really do think it is incumbent on a manager to do EVERYTHING within his power to try to win, whether it turns out to be fruitless or not.

       
    • Posts: 0 Don M

      I really think it matters…. and I would get my best hitters the most at bats in each game – hence, hitting certain guys higher in the lineup – and move Polanco down to 7th until he shows he can make solid contact and put together solid at bats again . . .

      and while I understand people saying to put chooch 2nd – I would bat him 5th or 6th, just because of his lack of speed . . . you dont want him ahead of Vic, Rollins, Pence on the base paths . . and YES, I do think he really is that much slower than Polanco

       
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Wait a second. I didn’t mean that it doesn’t matter one bit – of course you don’t put out a lineup with Chooch leading off and Galvis batting fourth. Lets say, for arguments sake, that there are probably 5 or 6 permutations of this lineup that a manager would think about running out there. I just happen to think that whatever one you run out there, of the 5 or 6, doesn’t matter that much in that one will be not bet than another. Thats all I’m sayin’.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Dipsy probably not much difference in the batting order right now. I have to to partially agree with you on that. However if line up B is 5% better than line up A we have to go with that.

     
  • Posts: 579 Brian Michael

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    Polanco usually has a strong start too.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      For his career, he has hit better in the second half, and April is the 4th or 5th best month.
      http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=polanpl01&year=Career&t=b#half::none

      In 2009 the 2nd half was better, in 2010 the first half, in 2011 they were even.

       
      • Posts: 579 Brian Michael

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        Good call. I actually didn’t believe that, I was just testing the new commenting feature.

        Now the page doesn’t need to reload when you submit a comment.

        We’re working on having other people’s comments feed in without reloading the page too…stay tuned!

         
      • Posts: 1190 Manny

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        Testing testing 1,2,3

         
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I dont think anyone is trying to write-off Polanco entirely . . . but he’s really struggling at the plate, and when the rest of the lineup is written in pencil .. why is he written in stone at the #2 spot in the order . .

    If he’s struggling, slide him down a little, take some pressure off and give your team the best chance to win each game . . . clearly to me, giving Vic, Rollins, and Pence the most at bats is going to help your team more than giving them to Polanco right now

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Sliding Polanco down after a mere eleven games is not the answer. He could change his approach batting in a different spot, and that could put him in a deeper slump. Even if he began hitting a bit, he might again have to readjust when moved back to the two hole. In the meantime, you’ve got no real bat control guy to plug in where Polly would normally bat.

    If he’s still really struggling after another week, then maybe a move should be made, although I don’t think defensive duds like Wiggy or Luna are very good choices considering that they also haven’t shown much. (except maybe the AAAA Luna in spring training).

    It’s funny to me that everyone wants Polanco dumped, but no one seems to consider that when the team is 1 for 11 with RISP, he’s not the only one coming up short. Maybe the whole team is injured, too old, overpaid in its final year, or all those other things Polanco is being accused of. Maybe it’s time to give up on the whole team and sell off talent like the Pirates used to do.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Sliding Polanco down after a mere eleven games is not the answer. He could change his approach batting in a different spot, and that could put him in a deeper slump. Even if he began hitting a bit, he might again have to readjust when moved back to the two hole. In the meantime, you’ve got no real bat control guy to plug in where Polly would normally bat.

    If he’s still really struggling after another week, then maybe a move should be made, although I don’t think defensive duds like Wiggy or Luna are very good choices considering that they also haven’t shown much offensively. (except maybe the AAAA Luna in spring training).

    It’s funny to me that everyone wants Polanco dumped, but no one seems to consider that when the team is 1 for 11 with RISP, he’s not the only one coming up short. Maybe the whole team is injured, too old, overpaid in its final year, or all those other things Polanco is being accused of. Maybe it’s time to give up on the whole team and sell off talent like the Pirates used to do.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    Brian: I do not like this new feature. If one tries to clarify or correct his post with a new one, there is too much lag time and his original comment is duplicated in its entirety.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      It’s also very confusing. One doesn’t know when one’s post has actually appeared because after the “submit” tab is clicked, the comment is still there in the “Leave a Comment” box. It’s way to easy to submit it multiple times.

       
    • Posts: 1190 Manny

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      Works smoothly for me. I like it.

       
  • Posts: 2990 Chuck A.

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    George, no one is suggesting dumping Polanco. But Don’s idea of moving him down in the order or others suggesting (myself included) that he sit for a few games ….can’t hurt at all. I’m sure that when it’s all said and done Polly will be hitting around .250-.275 and contributing nicely.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Did you actually read my comment? I advocated not moving Polanco YET. I know what Don’s comment said, and I happen to disagree and stated my reasons.

      And I disagree that “no one is suggesting dumping Polanco.” Moving him out of the lineup, or as others have suggested, bringing up Luna or trading for Wright are ALL moves to dump Polanco. My point is that if Polly is so bad, what about all the other non-performers so far? Polanco by himself is no more of a problem than the rest of those clowns who couldn’t get a run in last night, or on other nights. Seems to me that because he was hurt last year, everyone thinks he’s done after eleven lousy games. Rollins, Howard, even Utley have all been given more leeway than eleven games. What was Rollins in 2010, something like 0 for forty? How many games did Howard go last year between home runs? How did Utley miss two months and not catch any flack? Why did so many clamor to keep Pat Burrell after his final mediocre season? Polanco is done, though! Makes loads of sense.

       
  • Posts: 971 betasigmadeltashag

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    really after 11 games most of you are ready to be out of the playoffs by August. It has been 11 games. And yes some games look dreadful, some losses look worse(home opener for one where they did not hit a ball hard all day) Some better with the help of umpires and big innings. Last night was not a bad loss they just did not get timly hitting, that is going to happen especially with this line up. But it has been 11 games, can we not delcare Poly or JMJ or anybody on this team as all done or can not play needs to be replaced. If these 11 games were in June most of these numbers would mean nothing. Players go through slumps and ups and downs. Give it at least a month before jumping off the band wagon or the bridge what ever you live closer too

     
  • Posts: 971 betasigmadeltashag

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    On a positive note Big Joe did get the loss but it was a solid outing, he minimized the trouble he got himself into and really did not have a blow up inning and the pen looked pretty good. I thought outside some control issues Stutes had some great stuff last night. And KK pitched a solid two innings of no run ball

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      At last, a positive comment! I never thought I’d see one again.

       
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I just don’t get it . . . . everyone else can bounce around in the order … Vic and Rollins included . Why can’t Polanco.

    is moving a guy from 2nd to 7th really that big a deal ? I’d rather see him slide down the order than get benched – but I don’t understand this firm position that he needs to be #2 in the lineup right now … he’s not helping the team from that spot.

    In spring training we were asked what we wanted to see from Spring Training … and my answer was “A HEALTHY PLACIDO POLANCO” …. because, when healthy, he’s a great #2 hitter that will move runners to help the team . . . right now, he’s not that hitter. Because’s he’s a solid defender, I want him in the lineup, but he should not be hitting 2nd until he gets into something that resembles a groove – which he can work on from the 7-hole, just as easliy as he can from the 2-hole

     
  • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

    So, if Polanco is the problem (which I don’t believe) then what is the fix?

    This is just one of the reasons why I have said starting in MARCH that this team will not win more than 85 games. There is no significant offensive threat. I was at the game last Sunday. If you remember at one point we have Ruiz on first, one out and Hamels coming to the plate. I said to my wife that usually I would go for a bunt but not here because that will bring Pierre to the plate with two outs and Ruiz on second. AND Ruiz cannot score from second with Pierre at the plate.

    Think about that, the offense is so bad that I wanted the pitcher to swing away.

    For those of you not watching Hamels bunted and Ruiz was at second when the inning ended.

    I hope Vicotrino gets hot soon because otherwise 85 games will not be reachable.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      What you describe above would only be different if the leadoff hitter gets lots of extra base hits, which is typically not the case (on any team).

       
      • Posts: 0 As if...

        Even the slowest runner on the team should be able to score from second with two outs on a single out hit of the infield.

         
  • Posts: 2990 Chuck A.

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    George, I agreed with maybe bringing up Luna if Polanco was placed on the DL due to some kind of “injury” (if that even happens). I am not suggesting “dumping” him in favor of someone else…David Wright for example…. but I am suggesting resting him sometimes or moving him around in the order.

    And, yes…II DID read your comment.

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Polanco is not the problem. Moving Polanco out of the two, believe it or not, can kinda screw up the lineup. He is really the only legit two hitter. Rollins or Shane need to bat three and five in whichever order you want. Pierre can bat second but then who bats first? It all comes back to Polanco….unfortunately.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 BART SHART

    Bring Hector Luna up and let him hit. He has some power and is a decent fielder. Put Poly on the DL as I am sure he is ailing.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Should Mayberry go on the DL too? ;-)

       
  • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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    Look, we’re missing 200 RBI from the batting order right now. That’s not the fault of the players that are healthy.

    But I don’t see the harm in making changes to try to light a fire under them a little. Basketball and Hockey coaches use minutes played as motivators for their players all the time. I’m not advocating sending anyone down or to the DL, just tweak the damn lineup a little, sit a few people, give it a try. Let Charlie do whatever is in his power to see if it might help. It could yield positive results- or maybe not, but It won’t cause irreparable damage.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Polanco is sitting tonight. Wigginton at 3rd.

      Lineup:
      Pierre LF, Victorino CF, Rollins SS, Pence RF, Wigginton 3B, Nix 1B, Ruiz C, Galvis 2B, Lee P

       
      • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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        So against the righty Cain it’s L,L,LR,R,L,R,L,L- Good Job Charlie. Go Phils!

         
  • Posts: 530 Bruce

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    No one has said anything about the manager, Charlie Manuel and how he has shuffled his line up almost every week if not every day last year due to injuries and slumps and came away with a record 102 wins and a 5th consecutive divsion title. He is doing the same thing now with the injuries to Utley and Howard. I give Charlie a lot and I mean a whole lot of credit as manager of the Phillies. So I wouldn’t complain or whine too much about a certain move or a lack of move (such as those fretting about Polanco’s early season slump). Charlie has his reasons and with knowledge based on more than 40 years of pro baseball, one can not ignore or reject his moves without giving attention to all the reasons and giving him due respect. Newest baseball slogan: In Charlie We Trust (smile)

    Hey! Just want to gleefully say..congratulations Jamie Moyer! Just amazing! He became the oldest pitcher in Major League Baseball history to win a game when he beat the San Diego Padres, 5-3, at Coors Field last night. At age 49, without throwing any of his 87 pitches more than 79 mph, he allowed just six hits and no earned runs. And it comes after sitting out all of last year after undergoing a Tommy John surgery. The crafty pitcher is still going strong. He now has 268 career wins, tying HOF Jim Palmer for 34th on all time win list. He has more victories than Hall of Famers Bob Gibson, Whitey Ford, Juan Marichal and Catfish Hunter. Some may not know that in his first start in his rookie year, 1986, for the Chicago Cubs, he beat HOF Steve Carlton of the Phillies (smile).
    Good news for the Rockies fans: Moyer leads the team in ERA (2.55) and will continue to break his own record.

     
    • Posts: 5152 Lefty

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      Interesting stat put out by Elias Sports bureau. Jamie Moyer has pitched to 8% of all hitters in MLB history. Amazing.

       
  • Posts: 0 BART SHART

    A fan of Hector Luna is basically …….. A Luna Tick

     
  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Funny Bart –
    Poly is out of the lineup tonight. Anyone really surprised?

     
  • Posts: 0 c schreiber

    Well, well, well you everyday posters have finally realized the P’s can’t hit since mid last year and have not even mentioned your favorite subject since 1 March of Valdez, Minimart or who will be the utility infielder. I was sure the subject this week would be Fontenot and his “amazing” hitting. Right!!! It’s about time these comments became interesting and realistic on the P’s chances this season without any clutch hitting. Can’t see them (even with the big three) finishing in the top 2 in division. Braves and Marlins 1 & 2 either order. They, Didsy will not even be anywhere near 5 1/2 out in August, probably closer to 10 1/2, so trade Hamels to a possible playoff team and get some prospects back who might develop into a hitter.

     
  • Posts: 0 c schreiber

    Well here its is 12:47 AM, P’s lose 1-0 in 11. We had 4 hits…we had the “big” bats in lineup, Nix and Wittington, Witt blows Double play ball prior to winning hit..Charlie refuses to pinch hit for the other big bat “Thome” against a lefty with Mayberry on bench..strike out, than pinch hits Mayberry for guy who hits lefties well..third out. Read my post above this one.. just another example of what I said. WE CAN’T F____ING HIT.

     
 
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