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Phillies Drop Fifth Straight Game

Posted by Ryan Dinger, Wed, June 06, 2012 10:48 PM | Comments: 148
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Hunter Pence and the Phillies seem to have run into a wall during their current five-game losing streak. PHOTO: AP

The misery of Phillies fans everywhere continued tonight as the Dodgers managed to win another close game against the Phillies by a score of 6-5. The loss would be the Phillies fifth in a row, dropping them two games below .500. Coupled with a Nationals win, the loss puts the Phillies six games out of first place, eight back in the loss column.

KENDRICK DOESN’T ANSWER THE CALL:

- Kyle Kendrick had pitched well lately, and the Phillies needed him to step up and stop  a losing streak tonight. He withered like a flower without water in the face of the challenge.

- After getting through the first two innings pretty easily, Kendrick got hurt in the third by a single, an RBI triple,  and a John Mayberry error. The sequence would yield two Dodgers runs and give them the lead. Kendrick would follow that up by working himself into a one-out, bases loaded jam. To his credit, KK worked out of it without letting up anymore runs. But it would not be the end of the Dodgers scoring.

-  In the sixth, Kendrick would be charged with three more runs, though two of them came with Raul Valdes on the mound.  It was a disappointing effort for Kendrick, as the offense twice spotted him a lead, and he twice gave it away. To have the pitcher blow the lead when the hitters are finally able to score some runs perfectly encapsulates the season so far. When the pitching is going well, the bats are silent, and vice versa.

OFFENSE DOESN’T DO ENOUGH:

- The offense showed a little life tonight by scoring five runs. It wasn’t an offensive explosion, however, and the four runs would not be enough to get the win.

- Shane Victorino homered in the second inning to get the scoring started. It was the first time Victorino, who is hitting just (.152) over his last ten games, had an extra base hit since doubling on May 26 against the Cardinals. He would drive another ball well in the ninth, but Tony Gwynn was able to get under it.

- Jimmy Rollins gave the Phillies the lead, 4-2, in the fifth inning when he followed up Ty Wigginton‘s solo home run with a two-run shot of his own. The home run was Rollins’s third of the season. After slumping through the first two months of the season, Rollins has started June off on a bit of a hot streak. He’s hitting .308 (8-for-28), with a home run, two triples, and a double since June 1st. After hitting .239 through the first two months of the season, a hot Rollins would be a huge shot in the arm for the offense. Throughout his career, Rollins has had a tendency to start slowly before picking it up in June, and his 2012 splits are currently all well below his career averages. There’s reason to believe he can be better than he has been. At this point, when you’re clinging to any glimmer of hope you can find, Rollins could provide reason to be optimistic.

LATE-INNING STRUGGLES:

- The struggles the Phillies have had coming up big late in games have been well-documented. They’re now 0-22 in games in which they trailed after the seventh inning. For the third time this series, the Phillies failed to score a run after the fifth inning. These game stories are getting easier to write because I can pretty much assume the Phils won’t win if they’re down late. This team just doesn’t seem to have that spark, and they never have someone step up and will them to victory.

ANOTHER ONE-RUN GAME, ANOTHER LOSS:

- So far this season, the Phillies have gone 5-10 in one-run games, including losing all three of these games against the Dodgers by the slimmest of margins. During the five-year run of division titles, winning one-run games was something of a calling cards for the Phillies. From 2007-2011, the Phillies went 122-103 (.542) in one-run games. That number is even better if you don’t include 2007, when the Phils went 14-23 in one-run games. Right now, the Phillies record in one-run games is pretty much the difference between last place and fighting for first place in the division. They need to start winning some of these close ones. Good teams find ways to win close games.

INJURIES:

- Hunter Pence appeared to hurt his wrist in the third inning when he crashed into the right field wall going back on Tony Gwynn’s triple. Pence would stay in the game after some motion testing by Scott Sheridan, but it may be something to monitor.

- In the fifth inning, Freddy Galvis appeared to injure his back swinging at a pitch. Again Scott Sheridan would venture out from the dugout, and, unlike Hunter Pence, Galvis would not be able to continue. He would attempt finish out his at-bat, but after a few pitches, he was unable to continue. He was replaced in the at-bat by Mike Fontenot, who walked. After the game, it was announced that Galvis would be placed on the 15-day DL. A corresponding move will be announced tomorrow.

- More injuries is just about the last thing this Phillies team needs. You begin to wonder how much more they can endure if Galvis misses extended time, considering their already lengthy DL and the struggles of their offense this season. Chase Utley and Ryan Howard seem to be progressing, and they can’t get back fast enough.

GAME NOTES:

- The Philles five-game losing streak is their longest of the season.  They’ll look to end the streak and salvage a game from this series when they send Cole Hamels to the mound against Aaron Harang tomorrow afternoon.

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  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Jesus. Our players stink. There is nothing that Manuel can do unless he’s gonna grab the bat off the rack. Might as well keep him and reevaluate at the end of the season when there is clarity on who the players will be. We’re inching closer to the dreaded “time to at least get something for these players” time. Vic – gone. Polanco – gone. Blanton – gone. Mayberry, Brown – gone.

    Hamels. This is where Amaro A) has to decide if he wants Cole at 7/175 and B) can convince ownership to pony up and keep him.

    Will it be “salary cap be damned” or “gotta keep in line with the rest of the troops” (except Yankees)

    Screw the cap. Sign him. We’d only be over it for a year anyway.

    But we are not there yet. But its getting closer.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 1135 EricL

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      I think the end up keeping Polanco. His option is actually pretty cheap as far as competent 3B free agents are concerned. If they Phils keep Hamels, Victorino is probably gone. If they keep Victorino, Hamels is probably gone. I just don’t see how they can keep both of them without completely blowing through the luxury tax limit.

      I don’t get the Brown & Mayberry things though. If you’re going to have a firesale and rebuild, why on earth would you get rid of the cheap, young(er) guys in the organization? Brown is still only 24 years old and will be stuck at the league minimum salary for another few years. If you’re rebuilding, those are precisely the kind of guys you don’t get rid of.

      Mayberry can be a competent RH bench bat and defensive sub OF. I think it’s pretty clear that he can’t be a starter against RHP, but he does have enough ability to be useful in a smaller role.

      Blanton is all but untradeable due to his crappy performance, injury history and salary. YOu won’t get anything more than a bag of balls for him.

       
  • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

    @JSalisburyCSN: The Phillies are 13-27 in their last 40 games, including postseason, at CBP

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    I can see one problem with getting rid of Victorino, Mayberry, and Brown. It leaves a really thin outfield, which would have to be filled with free agents. There just isn’t anyone down on the farm who’s ready yet. Michael Bourn would be a possibility, but rumor has it that he’s looking for $15 million. Trading for good outfielders might not work, either, due to other teams’ demands, usually for top prospects. If the Phils decide to retool, rebuild, or whatever one chooses to call it, they will want to keep those prospects to build with.

    If the Phils can somehow find 2 outfielders worth a darn, and who won’t break the budget, then fine, get rid of Vic, Mayberry, and Brown.

     
    • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

      The Giants acquired three outfielders over the winter relatively inexpensively, and they all worked out great so far.

      Melky Cabrera: .366/.406/.536
      Angel Pagan: .320/.357/.461
      Gregor Blanco: .284/.390/.440

      All three combined make less than $12 million, and they gave up very little in the deals for Cabrera and Pagan (Blanco was a free agent). A nice job by Sabean.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        I’d regard that as a major fluke. The Phils don’t have that kind of luck.

        I’ll also point out that Cabrera isn’t going to be working cheap next season, and no one really knows if Pagan or Blanco will keep it up (they don’t have spectacular histories) so it’s only a short-term fix.

         
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      tyson gillies and leandro casto at reading both have good numbers. and what the hell bring up brown! trade vic and pence for whatever you can get! i love lee but trade him. we have trade chips it’s just a matter of having the cahones to do it! and sign hamels! oh yea tyler cloyd needs to be brought up also.

       
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Bourn’s not getting 15m. Unless its over two years :) I have no problem trading those outfielders for other outfielders that just do what we need. Further, I’m not sure I would have a problem letting Pence go while keeping Vic. You would have Vic, Blanton, Polanco, Mayberry, Brown (plus maybe Hamels) + free agency to come up with your outfielders. I think its eminently doable. Along with your OFs you will need a 3B and and 2SPs.

    1.
    2.
    3. Pence
    4. Howard
    5.
    6. Rollins
    7. Chooch
    8. Galvis

    The rest needs to be filled in.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Look at those OBPs. Its making me salivate. Sabes.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

    @ToddZolecki: Manuel, on Phils losing edge at home: “I thought we lost that edge quite a while ago, if you want to know the truth. We don’t scare nobody.”

     
  • Posts: 0 BART SHART

    Time to send Mayberry and Qualls down to Lehigh Valley. We need to bring up a young relief pitcher and give Dom Brown his opportunity.

    Qualls stinks, and could/should develop a new pitch
    Mayberry needs to retool offensively. He is NOT getting the job done.
    Hector Luna can platoon at first and third along with Wigginton.
    Brown can platoon with Pierre, who hits lefties very well.

    Let’s mix things up a little.

     
  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Before today, I was thinking how close these games have been I know, close only counts in horse shoes and dog shit but, it seems the Phils are falling short by just a hair. This slight difference could be made up with Vic coming to life, Mayberry getting into a stride virtually anything – my point is they are close.
    Considering how they have been doing, with the talent that is currently on the squad – I’d say they (well, not all of them) are playing to their capabilities – Vic, Mayberry seem to be the only ones swinging for the fences, and Pence – Pierre, Chooch, Wiggington, Galvis – they are playing more in align with their talent pool.

     
  • Posts: 0 David

    Request for bereavement day was denied.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Chuck you need to update this site more often.
    No game day thread and no post game thread.

    No its not the old mans fault. As much as he is just not a good game day manager. Also his style is good for awhile but this team needs someone up who isnt thier friend and wants to win only. The old man with the best team in baseball is a good fit. The old man with a bunch of over paid old timers? Not so much. Someone needs to make a prima donna cry. Bench them tell them they suck pull a Billy Martin on them.

    I see no chance with this team as it is. And to me the easiest way to spark it is a managerial change. With a 176,000,000.00 pay roll you shuld contend every year.

    Look at Mattingly with the Dodgers and the Orioles with Showalter.

    I dont blame Charlie at all actually. 100% of this mess is on Ruben Minaya Jr.
    But I want to win this year. Even though the old man is my favorite person to ever wear the uniform. It doesnt trump the fact that I want to win.
    Managerial change is maybe the only chance the Phils have in 2012.
    They are now 5.5 games behind 4 teams. If that gets to 8 or 9 or 10 its over.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    Andrew, I have nothing to do with the updating of this site. I’m a commentor only. And my comment is that nobody seemed to really care that this thread is a day and a game old – we are just happy to have a place to go to to vent, suggest, share. And I am done venting for now and have nothing new to share right now.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    I just read that Mini Mart was activated. The season is saved…

     
  • Posts: 5221 Lefty

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    Losing sucks. But I was a Phils fan when they won only 59 games in ’72. I will be one forever, no bandwagon for me.

    I hope Brian, Pat, Jonathan, Ian and Ryan, Jay, Kieran and Corey are alright. This is very unusual.

     
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      hey lefty i -itch and moan all the time it’s venting frustration. i’m always on the bandwagon. the problem is i fell off! my feet are still in and somebody’s keeping me from hitting the ground and i can’t see who it is! but my biggest problem is my face is draging on the ground and it hurts! my second biggest problem is the horses pulli the stinkin wagon keep crapping and … well those lumps of crap keep hitting me in the face! sorta like when the phils lose a bad one !ya feel like ya have crap on your face when it’s over

       
      • Posts: 5221 Lefty

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        You have a strange, but oddly funny sense of humor Ryne. It’s hard to laugh the way things are going right now, but it can’t hurt to try. Thanks man.

         
    • Posts: 0 c schreiber

      Amen to that brother..

       
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    @Eric – The guys I named could all be traded. I would not propose that they all be traded for the sake of being traded. I would hope that RAJ could create such situations where the trades would bring back commensurate value in areas of need that we have. I agree the Polanco would be OK to bring back next year. But an infield with Galvis, Rollins, and Polanco would be punchless. Dom Brown’s value is dropping by the second. The best point I think I can make is that RAJ has assets and free agency. He’s got to do it right. If he does, and if Hamels returns, and Howard comes back, I think we can actually be right back there again.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Trading people for needs is fine. However, Blanton would bring you back nothing but a mediocrity, and you’d still have to pay most of his contract. Mayberry might get you a guy like the Phils gave up for him: a pretty useless prospect. Victorino, although he might get you something useful, would create yet another need: a center fielder.

      It’s easy to make trades in your head, but in reality there are lots more questions to ask yourself. First, you have to figure out exactly where your needs are, you have to figure out if trading a player just creates some new empty position, you have to decide who has what you need and determine if they’ll give that player up, you have to measure your own player’s talents against that of the player you might obtain, and you have to weigh in fan response, budgets, possible attendance drops, and clubhouse chemistry.

      I’m not saying it can’t be done. But it’s not easy when your own team has very little to offer except players you’d probably want to keep, like Hamels, Ruiz, or Lee.

       
      • Posts: 1135 EricL

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        Honestly, I think Ruiz is one of the better options to move if this team becomes sellers near the dealine. He’s 33, has another year under contract, and is having a career year. Sell high and buy low. Unless he turns into Barry Bonds he’s very unlikely to ever have as much value as he does right now. And if you’re out of it this year, get what you can for him and move on to the Kratz/Valle era.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        That’s thinking out of the box, given how popular he is right now. I don’t like it, but I have to admit it makes sense (if they’re far enough out of it, which, you know, they aren’t going to be).

         
  • Posts: 0 Don M

    I like reading comments about teams getting younger, Strasburg & Harper were drafted #1 because the Nats were terrible for so long ……… The Orioles have been bad for like the past 15 years…

    If everyone wants the Phillies to be a team full of young, up-and-coming players…. You have to wait a few years, and sit through terrible seasons first

    At the start of 2011, the Phillies were the favorite to win it all… At the start of the 2011 playoff they were the favorite to win it all….. Then we lost to a red hot Cardinals team that would go on to win the whole thing …….. Ruben Minaya Jr then went out and improved his bench and closer… They entered spring training as the favorite in the NL. How that gets qualified as a terrible job by the GM I don’t know… Again, we could be the Nats or Orioles

     
    • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

      Take a look at how many players on the Cardinals roster have been drafted by them:

      Yadier Molina
      Matt Carpenter
      Tyler Greene
      Jon Jay
      Daniel Descalso
      Skip Schumaker
      Allen Craig
      Shane Robinson
      Matt Adams
      Lance Lynn
      Jaime Garcia
      Kyle McClellan
      Mitchell Boggs

      You don’t need to go through terrible seasons to have a productive farm system. When you can pull a guy like Matt Carpenter or Matt Adams out of your farm system you don’t need to resort to retreads like Wigginton or Nix in free agency. When you’ve drafted guys like Jon Jay and Allen Craig you don’t need guys like Ibanez or Pierre to plug holes.

      The Phillies drafting lower in the draft is no excuse – St. Louis seems to have it figured out.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        The exception that proves the rule, Jeff.

         
      • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

        What’s the exception? What’s the rule? Are you saying that the Cardinals are lucky in the draft and the Phillies have been unlucky?

        Maybe it’s as simple as St. Louis having better scouts evaluating talent.

        2000:
        Yadier Molina 4th round

        2001:
        Skip Schumaker 5th round

        2002:
        Kyle McClellan 25th round

        2003:
        Jason Motte 19th round

        2005:
        Tyler Greene 1st round
        Mitchell Boggs 5th round
        Jaime Garcia 22nd round

        2006:
        Jon Jay 2nd round
        Shane Robinson 5th round
        Allen Craig 8th round

        2007:
        Daniel Descalso 3rd round

        2008:
        Lance Lynn 1st round

        2009:
        Matt Carpenter 13th round
        Matt Adams 23rd round

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        The rule would be that not very many teams are that lucky. Scouting has something to do with it, but so do injuries, prospects who don’t maintain the talent that got them drafted in the first place, being screwed out of draft picks when your prime free agent signs with a bottom fifteen team, and trades to replace a player who has suffered a career, or at least a season ending injury.

        The Cards do have talent; they’re always close. But they didn’t even win their own division last season, and their series win was partly a product of getting hot at the right time, while other teams got cold.

        I also note that you’ve cited five players who were drafted 4th round or above. That’s hardly an argument to support your claim that “The Phillies drafting lower in the draft is no excuse.”

         
    • Posts: 0 George

      I, too, enjoy that. I particularly enjoy noting that so many young guys are currently on disabled lists; people like Kemp. Or noting that the aforementioned Strasburg has had T.J. surgery and that Johnson, on Miami, has had numerous arm issues. I also like reading about the under-performance of guys like Justin Upton.

      That said, however, I have to say that the Phils are in a decline stage at present; it’s just the way of baseball and is no one’s fault, really. Unfortunately, the fans may have to soon experience some bad years while deck chairs are rearranged or thrown overboard to make way for the new.

       
  • Posts: 1190 Manny

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    What’s this Lee/Victorino incident people were talking about?

     
  • Posts: 1190 Manny

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    U-g-l-y.

     
  • Posts: 0 Betasigmadeltashag

    Where is the tailgate for tonight’s game

     
  • Posts: 5221 Lefty

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    Don M, What’s going on with postings? Is everyone okay?

     
    • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

      The staff has abandoned the website!

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    You could be the Nats or Orioles.
    They are both in first place and do not have rosters litered with geriatrics and cripples.

    Again better to be favored to win then to actualy win.
    In Donnyland where Ruben is doing great

    2011 the best team lost.
    Same as 2010.

    At least in 2012 the nonsense will cease?
    Or will it?
    Last place bestest.

    Your $176,000,000.00 is well spent.
    On the best team.

     
    • Posts: 0 Don M

      But do you do realize that over the past 5+ years, those two teams have been the worst of the worst …… But because they sit in 1st place on June 8th- you wish the Phillies would run their organization similarly to those two teams??

       
    • Posts: 0 Don M

      Nobody ever said that it’s better to be favored to win -than to actually win ……. If you would out on your comprehension shoes for a minute you would see that a GMs job is to put together a talented roster…. Which Amaro has done, but since you only look at the final outcome of the season … You would probably say the Braves run in the 90s wasn’t all that impressive since they didn’t win the World Series every year

       
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    I’ll Have Another not racing because of tendonitis? Give me a break! That is so weak. The Dipsy over/under for tonites game is 11 1/2. Yes, they have abandoned the site, This will be the last thread ever so lets all learn to like it. It’ll be a “free association” thread.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      Why in Big Ed Delahanty’s day they would have wrapped that leg tight and sent the pony out there dadgum it!

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        You may be right. But then they would have shot the poor beast, because they wouldn’t have known how to fix the resulting leg damage.

         
    • Posts: 1135 EricL

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      Eh, the Triple Crown is a joke anymore.

      Horses aren’t bred and trained to run 3 races in such a short time span. Either move the races apart or stop worrying about it.

      Slate.com had a good piece on it today.

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Horse racing and the Dipsy.

    I am guessing not 2 people here even are aware of Harrahs philadelphia which use to be Harrahs chester.

    My angle on the Belmont was to bet the 11 other horses.
    It pays. IHA (I’ll have another) was 4/5 and they would have lined up to bet him. On 3 legs.
    Its what they do (see Howard, Utley , Rollins).

    Check the pay outs when Smarty Jones and Big brown lost. Money to be made.

    He was going to lose. They all lose.
    Buzzkill
    I blame Ruben and Chuck A for my lack of making money tomorrow.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    What!!??!! I was so hyped up for that race tomorrow.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    Yeah, Andrew it’s all my fault.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

    @jaysonst: In the history of baseball, only two teams have won at least 102 games one season and finished with a losing season the next — the 1970-71 Reds and the 1993-94 Giants. And those Giants barely count, because they were only five games under .500 when the strike of 1994 so rudely interrupted their season with 47 games to go.

     
  • Posts: 5221 Lefty

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    “MLB execs believe Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr. is aiming to make his team younger. Phillies scouts are eyeing young third basemen and center fielders as Placido Polanco and Shane Victorino near free agency.”
    Jayson Stark

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    They did score more runs than their opponents.

    Re: Jim Merritt (the Kyle Kendrick (Cliff Lee) if you will) of the 71 Reds.

    1969 17-9
    1970 20-12
    1971 1-11

    He is only 68 and has 81 career wins.

    Ruben he has potential.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    So, if they’re eyeing younger players, specifically centerfielders, that would maybe mean the end for Vic….which maybe bodes well for re-signing Hamels.

     
  • Posts: 2993 Chuck A.

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    Eric, schmenk – I think hell would have to freeze over before the Phillies would even THINK of trading Carlos Ruiz. I get the logic….but it ain’t hapennin’

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Baseball is a business, so it could happen. The Phils do have an up-and-coming catcher, and Ruiz would probably bring back a decent haul.

      They’d be risking fan revolt, of course, and Ruiz, with his rather low pay, certainly won’t give them any real budget relief. But if the return was really overwhelming, they still might do it.

      My own feelings, though, are that they won’t trade him. Valle isn’t ready yet, Ruiz is cheap and productive, and I doubt that the pitchers will want to throw to Schneider and Kratz all the time. That could even be the deciding thing that might drive Cole Hamels from Philadelphia.

       
      • Posts: 1135 EricL

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        Oh, I’m almost 100% sure it won’t happen. I’m just saying that if they collapse and are truly out of contention, and are looking to be sellers at the deadline, he very well may be their most valuable trade chip, and he’s highly unlikely to ever be as good or valuable as he is right now.

        I don’t think trading him would necessarily effect any of the potential free agents, but then I’m not in the locker room so I don’t know. But, you know, it’d be pretty hard to turn down a 9-figure offer from the club that I came up with in the city that I’ve lived and made my family in, just because they traded away a catcher.

         
 
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