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Utley Goes to Lehigh Valley on Tuesday

Posted by Pat Gallen, Sun, June 24, 2012 06:27 PM | Comments: 22
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Utley moves to LV on Tuesday. (AP)

Chase Utley is moving north, but not to Philadelphia just yet.

Utley will join the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs on Tuesday to continue the rehab of his chronically injured knees. He made enough progress in Clearwater that they felt he was ready for a larger test.

Charlie Manuel told me on Thursday that Utley could rejoin the team sometime this week. CSNPhilly.com’s Jim Salisbury reported yesterday that Tuesday or Wednesday was the likely date.

The Phillies did not release any other information regarding his rehab, so it’s unknown how long this stint in Allentown will last. However, it’s good news as he draws closer to the majors.

Utley is hitting .156 through nine games of this rehab stint.

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  • Posts: 0 Double Trouble Del

    Who cares.

     
    • Posts: 0 Scott

      I was thinking the same thing.

       
  • Posts: 828 schmenkman

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    One of the best second basemen to ever play the game (and the best in team history), who has played through pain, given his all for this team and helped bring them a championship, has a degenerative knee condition that keeps him from playing a full season.

    Yet if he can play anywhere near his 2011 level, he will again be one of the best at his position and a huge improvement on the team’s second basemen to date, and any of their existing options.

    So yes, by all means, let’s say “who cares”.

     
  • Posts: 0 grismundo

    If Martinez wasn’t so awful, then Utley coming back really wouldn’t make a difference. In fact, it still probably won’t. By the time Chase really gets into a groove, shakes off the rust, and gets his timing down, they’re gonna be buried too deep in the standings even for the 2nd wild card spot. I’m not trying to be Mr. Negative here, just realistic. 2013 will be a much better year, barring anymore injuries and by management MONITORING PLAYERS DURING THE OFFSEASON.

     
  • Posts: 84 Tom

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    Will be great to see Chase back in a Phils uniform, but after today’s performance, I can’t see how much of a difference it will make!!

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr

    I almost have to agree with Grismundo.This team takes 1 step forward then almost immediately take 2 step backwards. On top of everything the chemistry just isnt there anymore. I have a feeling Lee is falling out favor with Philadelphia and the Phil’s as a whole. I could see the frustration in Chollys voice and eyes after the 1st game interview. Other than Ruiz, Cole, Papelbon and Rollins recent emergence nothing has gone right with this club.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      The only thing I can agree with in grismundos’s comment is that Utley’s return might be too late. The rest is assumption; he believes that management isn’t monitoring players in the offseason. I’d like to see his proof of that.

      Also, I can’t really agree with your own thoughts that chemistry isn’t there anymore. Perhaps it isn’t, but no one who’s not actually in the clubhouse could really say for sure. There’s a difference between frustration and not getting along with one another.

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    Adding Utley and Howard to the mix is like adding cement to the titanic.
    BUT
    It probably doesnt matter alot anyway.

    At this point you entertain deals for anyone. I mean anyone.

    Id like to see a new GM ASAP but I guess not happening.

    Its really funny when they good teams that play the game right like the Dodgers or Rays it really becomes shocking how far this team is away from that.

    But its our team have to enjoy it and it will be intersting to see what becomes of this trainwreck.

     
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      i agree with pretty much all you say AFW except for the titanic comment! that’s ok though, even though i disagree with that i see your point.

      first thing they gotta do if utley does come back is ship mini mart out! ASAP! second is ship cholly out! he’s losing whatever he had. if he had it at all! yea he’s had a shit roster to this point but it’s what he has, and he hasn’t done a good job managing it! it’s one dunderhead move or lack of a move after another. third get sandberg up here, he’s a guy who would see what players are doing or not doing and change things around! i think it would be a positive having him here for our young bullpen guys. these guys have the stuff, i think they’re tentative cause they know charlies not partial to young players ( cept MM ). i think they have to do it NOW give sandberg a week or so to evaluate what he has. make his recomondation to rube and then let the trades fly! and sign hamels asap! and when i say trades that means anyone!

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        It’s difficult to make moves when you have nobody to make moves with. Which 5.00 ERA reliever should he chose? Which defensive or offensive liability should Manuel use as a late inning replacement? Martinez is being used, for instance, because the other option, Fontenot, has made a ton of errors, and anyone with eyes can see that Wigginton is not a defensive option at 2nd or 3rd (the positions MM has been playing) And should Rollins have to sit, there’s no one but MM to play short. Sure, he sucks offensively, but I just can’t see this as Manuel’s fault, and until Amaro can get another player, MM is about the only guy who can be used.

        Also, where is your evidence that Manuel doesn’t like young players?

         
      • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

        Manuel is “not partial to young players”? What young players does this organization have that is even close to being ready to contribute?

        http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120625_Poor_decisions_go_beyond_the_dugout.html

         
    • Posts: 0 Roots

      This is what happens when you become a “fan” in 2008.

      You say really stupid things.

       
  • Avatar of "Big Ed" Delahanty

    @Schmenkman:So Chase is better than Sandberg, Carew, Morgan, Eddie Collins, Nap Lajoie, Gehringer, and Hornsby? He is the best Phillies second baseman (Modern Era, as Lajoie was an Athletic), and the best current second baseman in the league, even with bum knees, but not the best to play the game. However, all we need his for him to be above the NL average and the team will benefit in leaps and bounds.

     
    • Posts: 828 schmenkman

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      I think we’re in a agreement. As I said, “he’s one of the best to play the game”. Judging by a peak period , he’s arguably the best since Morgan. Utley’s last 7 years (07-11) were better than any 7-year stretch put together by either Sandberg or Carew. More here: http://www.thegoodphight.com/2012/2/2/2715299/chase-utley-and-50-years-of-second-basemen

      It’s hard to compare across eras, but relative to the time they played in, Morgan, Collins, Lajoie, and Hornsby were all better. Gehringer is a tougher call.

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    I would think Halladay and Hamels and some of the other “good” players may have value.
    Rollins another team might take. Although you wouldnt get anything in return of value.
    Ruiz has value.
    Victorino has value although its declining fast. Thats when you need to sell before a players value bottoms out.
    But yea your going to have to deal one of the few parts of this team with value.

    Howard or Utley or Lee youd have to deal and eat most of their salary. And get nothing back.
    Although I suppose Yankees or Red sox might take a flyer on Cliff.

     
    • Posts: 61 GM

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      It would help if you did some research.

      Rollins is covered by the 10/5 rule … players who have been with a club for 5 consecutive years and have been a major league player for 10 years cannot be traded without their consent.

      Halladay & Lee have no-trade clauses in their contracts, I believe to all but 8 teams each, this severely limits the trade market.

       
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Getting really close to go time as far as trades. I was doing a little quick math and I figured that if 87 wins get you to the knockout, then the Phils have to go 53-35 the rest of the way. Ain’t happenin.

    Cole, Roy, Pence, Chooch, Worley all have nice value. Lee if you wanna eat a little salary.
    Jimmy if you wanna eat more. Polanco may get you a good low minor prospect. Vic may get you an actual prospect.

    When you hit the day you think you’re out of it, I would be on the phone to see who will give me the most for Cole. You can’t just let him walk in FA without getting anything. That would be criminal.

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    And for heavens sake bring Brown up and play him every day. I dont care what position it is. He cant field any worse than Pence.
    Tthis of course shuld have happened a year ago.
    I assume he is now has very little value in a trade.
    So just let him play every day and lets see if hes any good. Might be a nice suprise.

     
    • Posts: 0 Roots

      You’re an amazing computer chair GM!

       
    • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

      Brown’s problem is that he’s never been healthy enough to play everyday.

      http://sulia.com/channel/philadelphia-phillies/f/be122b3a-28b8-4cd1-92ac-8637f303cd22/?source=twitter

      @ryanlawrence21: Charlie Manuel had some pointed things to say about the stunted progress of the oft-injured Domonic Brown: “One of the things that really hurt him is, for some reason, he always had something wrong with him. I’ve wanted to play him, in spring training and last year in games and the trainer would come and tell me that something was wrong with him and that he’s not able to play. …When you’re young and trying to get in the lineup, it’s very important that you’re healthy. If you’re getting hurt, hurts you getting established.”

      Since September of 2010, Brown has battled through the following list of injures: quad, thumb, neck, hamstring, hand.

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf

    If these guys try to block a trade from the Titanic to a contender they would be as hated as Terrell Owens is in Philadelphia. Sorry I just dont see it happening.

    Remember they arent going to be dealt to the Royals or Mariners.

    They will be going to a big payroll contending team.
    IMO Halladay deserves to play for a team with a chance.
    Ruiz too. Although he may prefer to stay here on the Titanic. He is that kind of a guy.
    Which is why he is my favorite Phil and has been for years.

     
 
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