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A Streak! A Real, Legitimate Winning Streak!

Posted by Pat Gallen, Tue, July 17, 2012 01:19 AM | Comments: 55
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The Phillies beat the Dodgers, 3-2, on Monday night for their third straight win. It’s the Phillies’ first three-game winning streak since May 23-26, when they won four in a row.

The Big Piece had his first Big Fly of the season (AP)

-Joe Blanton pitched eight strong innings, allowing two runs. He struck out seven batters without a walk, improving his gaudy K/BB numbers to 102 and 16, respectively.

-Blanton broke a personal streak of 11 straight starts surrendering a home run. He was one away from tying Randy Wolf (2000) for the longest stretch in Phillies history.

-Ryan Howard hit his first home run of the season, an opposite-field solo shot after he narrowly missed hitting one out to the same spot an at-bat earlier. It was the 287th homer of Howard’s career.

-Jimmy Rollins went deep for the ninth time.

-Carlos Ruiz continues his torrid season. Chooch doubled in the second inning and scored on a single by Juan Pierre, who is also somewhat-quietly having a really nice year.

-Shane Victorino tripled for the third straight game. He had two in his previous 87 games. Victorino is the first player to triple in three straight games since… Shane Victorino, in 2011.

-It was great to see “The Big Piece” trot back after a long layoff, and the swing also looked pretty decent. Howard held the hands back and went to the opposite field. When he’s on, that’s the direction he goes in. In the second inning, he narrowly missed one, too.

BLANTON SOLID

-Blanton: 8 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 7 K.

-In the middle innings, it was about damage control (or control damage as Sarge says). Blanton ran into a bit of trouble in the fourth, allowing two to reach base, but ended the inning on a knee-high strike three to James Loney. Great way to keep a zero on the board.

In the sixth, Blanton ran into another issue as the Dodgers put runners on the corners with no outs and Matt Kemp at the dish. Big Joe coolly got him to ground into a 5-4-3 double play, which did allow a run to cross home. However, it was the only run of that frame. In the seventh, the Dodgers would tack on another on a wild pitch to make it 3-2, but Blanton held them there.

-Blanton outpitched his counterpart Nate Eovaldi, who left after just five innings and was inconsistent. Eovaldi throws hard, but still appears to be a work in progress.

DOC TOMORROW

-Tomorrow, it’s finally the return of Roy Halladay, who starts for the first time since being sidelined on May 28 with a strained lat muscle. Excited to see what Roy will do, but let’s also temper expectations. The Dodgers have not announced a starter yet.

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  • Posts: 0 Melvin

    Joe Blanton is like that legendary box of chocolates from Forrest Gump.

     
  • Posts: 45 artemis

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    Not much comments yet on this board… Are we STUNNED that we won, after such a long losing streak?

     
  • Posts: 45 artemis

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    Not much comments yet on this board… Are we STUNNED that we won, after such a long losing streak? Are we stunned that we won a game against the Dodgers?

     
  • Posts: 0 brooks

    Frankly we are stunned Arty – and it was quite late on a school night.
    The victory looked vaguely familiar didn’t it? Some solo shots, a good, strong pitching effort?
    Brought back some memories for me.
    Tonight some Doc followed by the Cliff then some Vanimal on Friday.
    Although thoughts of post season are far away, the glimmer of a good season still remains with this crew.
    Too bad they will likely be broken up soon, this has been one tremendous ride.

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    Query: Do we REALLY want the Phils to go on a modest winning streak?

    The Dipsy

     
  • Posts: 2965 Chuck A.

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    Dipsy – Is that a real question?

     
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    I’m gonna say it – I don’t care who hates me – I don’t want this team to win a few games and start to think that they are gonna make the playoffs cuz they’re not. I want Ruben to proceed with making the deals he needs to make for the long run and not be distracted by a 7 -3 over the next ten games or so.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      i’m with you Dipsey! as much as i hate to see them lose, winning 7 of 10 will only slow the retool process. i hear rumors of the dodgers interested in rollin? i’d do that deal in a heartbeat. yea i know the we don’t have another SS ready to go but really i’d do it now. the season is lost! the math suggests it. if we won 30 straight games ( haha) and wash. played .500 ball we’d be there with them at the top! think about that! it aint happenning. so move on to getting ready for next year. sign cole and do what you have to do to get younger and hungrier.

       
    • Posts: 0 c schreiber

      I also agree, Dipsy.

       
  • Posts: 0 Koba

    The phillies need to sign Joe Blanton to a long term extension before Cole Hamels if they want to show they are comitted to winning

     
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      i guess if blanton pitches stinky in his next start you’ll be saying to trade him?

       
  • Posts: 2965 Chuck A.

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    I would agree that Ruben needs to make the necessary moves he needs to make despite any sort of winning streak. The reality is that they need to win 90 games to make the playoffs…that’s 50-21 the rest of the way. Possible but not very likely. That said, I want them to play well and win games in order to salvage this season and not have it be a complete disaster.

     
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      chuck the season is allready a disaster! trade who you can for the best players you can get and get a jump on retooling for next year. if i was running the F.O. that’s my mantra for the next two months. it was a good run. hopefully we can take a pause this year and get back to it next year. rollins is not the player he used to be. D. Murphy has an article on phila.com making a case for not trading rollins. this is the same guy who was telling us for 2-3 yrs that the core is getting older and with rollins contract that nobody would deal for him! lo an behold a team (dodgers) the dodgers show up and want to deal for him and murphy starts giving all the stats of other SS in the league and how the great numbers of rollins shadows them! whew! i’d do it he’s the new bobby abreu. get rid of him and move on. he’s been very good for us during the run but theres a time that you can’t keep a player for what he did a few years ago. it’s time for rube to steal some prospects from other teams hungry to win just like we did. give them his slowing legs and depleted fielding range now before it’s too late. he still has 2 yrs and a vesting yr on his current contract. we don’t need a david bell like player at SS after this year or the next. or we’ll have another disaster of a season next yr or the one after that.

       
  • Posts: 0 Manny

    This team is playing better baseball since the all star break… Just saying.

     
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      sorta like the eagles manny! suck for allmost 3/4 of the season them start to play decent towards the end so everybody can feel good. we’ll all go to sleep feeling that they’ll be ok next year. i like when they win, i hate to see them lose but at this point reality says that next year it’ll be more of the same only getting worse. don’t fool yourself my man. they are not getting me sucked into a false hope. i’m on the bandwagon but i’m laying there passed out! sorta like laying there and having a dream about having a really good cup of coffee, then you wake up after the wagon hits a bump and you go ewwwwwwwwwwww! who farted

       
      • Posts: 1190 Manny

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        Haha that gave me a good laugh! These next few games before the trade deadline are crucial, and if the Phils keep it up, I don’t see how that’s getting sucked into a false hope.

         
      • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

        manny i don’t know for sure i’d, get sucked in but my guess is i would. cause i know i get excited when they win and i think they have a chance. but my lifelong experience with the phils goes pretty far back and the false hope is …… well i made ya laugh once i don’t want to get carried away manny! thanks for the comment on my humor. ya gotta have a sense of humor! my goal is to make one person a day smile if i acheive that then there is hope!

         
  • Posts: 0 BART SHART

    Ruben needs to wake up and smell the roses. We need to rebuild and we need to do it now.
    He will be lulled into a false sense of enthusiasm if we start a winning streak. He will be anxious to prove that his expensive moves were indeed smart ones. His ass is in the frying pan and he hopes a winning streak will help pull it out. NO WAY !!! I love the Phils, but like a sick child, I know it is time for intervention.

     
  • Posts: 1190 Manny

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    Now we’re 10GB in the WC. This team is not gonna fold, folks.

     
    • Posts: 0 c schreiber

      Manny, get your head out of your ass. ITS OVER. They are NOT going to make the playoffs. Wake up and get real.

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    Trading Rollins???

    Its a start of a long process is all.

    How dare I?
    I remember 2006

    I do.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Seems to be a sampling of people reflecting a little fear that Senor Amaro will get lulled into a false sense of security with better play now, and in coming games from the comments above. Um, would wow be appropriate? To me, that underestimates not so much him, but anybody around the bigs holding the lofty title of GM. If he doesn’t know the likes of Polanco and Mayberry and the bullpen at large are hinderances, well…no need to complete that particular sentence.

    Get it while you can.

    Can’t wait for tonight. Looking forward to a very sound, very stable performance from Doc.

    And when he pitches well
    And if
    he pitches well

     
    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      Let’s see if through the magic of the reply space we can try to make sense of the last part of the above.

      If and when he pitches well, and there is only health to stand in the way of that, there’s no reason to believe that he’ll be asked to do too much in the next 2 starts. It’s a process, but by month’s end, we oughta be able to see the Doc as we know him. Health willing.

      Hallday. Tuesday night. Let’s get it on.

       
      • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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        I wonder how many pitches he will be allowed to throw. Hope they err on the side of caution.

         
      • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

        lefty i heard somewhere around 80 pitches.

         
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        FWIW, this is inreply to comments by Lefty and Ryne. I have a feeling it winds up above theirs. I don’t really care, but I heard somewhere location, location, location, so I’ll act concerned.

        Anywho…

        Ryne said 80 pitches is what he heard. What I read was Dubee doing his ususal secret thing (remember how he said he had some thoughts on Cliff and how he could do better, but he didn’t want it in the papers?), but in the next graph, 80 was a number mentioned.

        But going back to dialogue with Lefty from a few days ago, we both offered that stress was the main thing…I inferred from Lefty’s comments stress was separated by majors and minors, whereas I thought it was separated by Dodger Stadium, and a more offensive haven. And facing the Dodgers instead of an offensive juggernaut at this point. Not that the Dodgers are awful, but whatever stress is created is the main thing. Plus, how he feels between innings.

        Will they be on the cautious side? Bet both your sweet, and sour bippy on that. Dubee’s the one who pulled the plug in the Cardinal game on 5/27.

        Want an amateur guess number for the hell of it? 75.

        I go back to dialogue

         
    • Posts: 0 George

      “Wow” is absolutely appropriate. If Amaro’s sensibilities were as easily lulled as some fans fear, the owners would demote him to ball girl.

       
  • Posts: 0 George

    A winning streak is not going to affect the Hamels negotiations at all. He either signs or he doesn’t, and if he doesn’t, the Phils trade him.

    As far as other trades, I don’t see anyone who would bring back anyone really good, except key players like Ruiz or Halladay. Blanton? Kendrick? Mayberry? They won’t get a team much of anything.

    Victorino, as a rental, might be the best bet, but he’s having a lousy year which has hurt his value so I wouldn’t expect much more than a mid-level prospect or two. Pence would be a better chip, but I doubt he gets traded due to team control and relative youth.

    In other words, in my opinion, a winning streak is not a hindrance to “retooling” in the least. In fact, if the team plays better, some of the guys might increase their perceived value to other teams.

    If the team does well for only a short time, some of these players will probably pass through waivers and could still be traded.

     
  • Posts: 120 Dave P

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    Not too much worse than falling asleep during the 9th inning of a 1 run game. Glad to see the phillies start to put it together… and it’s starts like this that will make me miss Joe next year.

     
  • Posts: 903 betasigmadeltashag

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    I can see what some of you are saying, I just do not get it, you do not trade for the sake of trading someone to say you did something. If you can not get players that can play, not potential players that someday may be good, especially for a guy like JRoll, he is still going to be a good player and worth 11million and think he will be worth it next year. They do need bull pen pieces but if any of you seriousily think that there are bull pen guys that are consistent year in year out that your are going to get for anyone the Phillies want to trade you are crazy.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Agree about Rollins. He is still a very good shortstop and worth every penny of his contract. Will likely be worth more than the $9.5 average this year, and maybe less than that by year 4, but that’s fine.

       
    • Posts: 1135 EricL

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      Not to mention that Rollins is a 10-5 guy, which means he gets final say in all potential trades. If Jimmy wants to stay in Philly, he’s staying in Philly, regardless of whether some goofy fans or the front office want to trade him away.

       
  • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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    There are probably about 15- 20 teams looking to bolster their bullpens, making relievers a premium right now.

    In terms of cause and effect, does this increase or decrease the value of guys like Victorino? Obviously it makes for more competition to get a solid RH reliever, so you have to give more to get one. But would the few possible sellers with good pens like Oakland (Balfour) want veteran rentals, very doubtful. They’d probably want prospects.

    IMO- I don’t care which veteran(s) they have to trade, they need to shore up the pen for the present and the future. Win streak or not.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      With that much competition for bullpen help, I doubt if the Phils have the players needed to make a trade for a major league arm.

      I also don’t think they need to make a trade for pen help. (I do hope they dump Sanches, though.) Relievers are inconsistent, and inexperienced relievers are extremely inconsistent. This season is probably hopeless, so they might as well let their own guys get the ML experience they need. They can aim for any needed improvements in the off season.

      I DO care which veteran(s) they trade. Ruiz, for instance, should be completely off limits to other teams, and most the other Phils are more valuable than a middle reliever who might be worse next year than what they already have. The guys that are less valuable will have no trade appeal whatsoever to a contending team.

       
      • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

        george with the phils 10 GB in the wild card and if some team ( the A’s ) offered the phils a package for rollins including say balfour and the return of micheal taylor and a pitching prosect. would you trade him? would you trade vic for dee gordon and a prospect from the dodgers? i know gordons out right now with an injury. but as you know our DL is starting to get a little thin! lol

         
      • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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        Please allow me to correct the last statement in my previous comment to say- I don’t care which veteran(s) they have to trade to get a package of players of equal value including, most importantly, a strong young arm or two to help bolster the bullpen. Obviously I’m not trading Ruiz, Victorino, Hamels, or Pence for a single middle bullpen piece.

        The following is to clarify what I said above, for example purposes only. I’m not a GM and don’t know how to structure trades.

        If the Reds, who have a good BP are willing to give up Zach Cozart and Aroldis Chapman for Jimmy Rollins, Juan Pierre, and Diekman, or maybe Jay Bruce and Chapman for Pence, Nix and Fontenot…..(you get the idea?), then I am all in.

        It doesn’t have to be those particular players, that was just an example. What I’m saying is IMO absolutely no one is untouchable if reasonable equal value deals can be reached. You have to be willing to give, in order to get.

         
      • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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        Oh, and Sanches is gone, outrighted to AAA again.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        The Athletics are not going to offer a “package” for Rollins, especially one containing Taylor and Balfour. Balfour is not a guy you trade if you’re trying to reach the playoffs.

        I would not trade Vic for Gee. Before his injury, he wasn’t doing much. If the prospect offered had real promise, I might.

        I do agree, though, that the Phils’ DL is losing players lately, and that problem needs to be addressed. Maybe they could push some of their relievers down a staircase.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        Lefty, I realize that you wouldn’t trade players for garbage. Niether would I. My point is that the players the Phils actually could trade are not going to bring back premium guys. Most of the Phils’ chips are rentals or bench guys, (that includes Pierre) and wouldn’t net much, unless the trading partner is so desperate they’ve gone nuts. Rollins might net someone good, but he can also veto anything. Hamels would bring the most, but he is one of those aforementioned rentals, and probably would deliver a disappointing haul.

        I will agree, though, that if the team CAN get someone of equal value WHO ACTUALLY FILLS A NEED then the trade should be made.

         
  • Posts: 2965 Chuck A.

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    Question for all of you that want Rollins traded: Who would you suggest plays shortstop….as good as Jimmy still does?? Just askin’ …

     
    • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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      A shortstop would have to be included in the trade, maybe a three team deal since the team trading for Rollins obviously wouldn’t have one. Or look at my last comment above. 26 year old Zach Cozart, with a ton of potential, under team control is perfect. He plays the position very well and is learning to hit. Look at his 2010 season w Louisville. 30 doubles, 17 HR’s, 30 SB’s, 67 RBI, 91 Runs scored- potential.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        A ton of potential, but currently injured. I thought for a second you were talking about Dom Brown, and just got the name wrong.

         
      • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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        You’ve got the wrong Cozart maybe? Anyway Zach Cozart of the Reds is healthy. I just watched him play on Sunday Night Baseball. Of course they would have no interest in trading him for an older Rollins, but as I said, it was just an example.

         
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Everyone here is crazy to trade this entire team away. Yes, they are built for now. They lost there 3 4 hitters and there ace. Win with that. Fill in guys that should not be starting. You gave Jimmy a contract now stick with him. He plays the field good and can still hit. This team is not done yet. Sign Cole and we will start winning. Cole, Lee, Doc will start winning there games. This team won 102 f’in games last season and you want to trade the parts away. Typical Philly.

     
    • Posts: 1190 Manny

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      Well said, Jeff.

       
  • Posts: 0 Ragnur240

    Can we all not talk about this and keep from jinxing it?

     
    • Posts: 120 Dave P

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      Too late. I put on my worley shirt on Saturday for good luck and didn’t take it off until after they had won last night, meaning they won every game after I put that shirt on. So the winning streak will end today, but hey, I didn’t want to smell anymore.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        Quick! Wash the damned shirt and put it back on!

         
      • Posts: 4886 Lefty

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        If they lose tonight it’s all Dave P’s fault. In their playoff run in 08, I didn’t take my shirt off until the last pitch from Lidge. I don’t have many friends anymore :-)

         
  • Posts: 903 betasigmadeltashag

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    It is also crazy to think this team has 0 chance to make a wild card run, probabal(sp) no impossible no. It falls somewhere inbetween. This team can win 8-9 in a row maybe more if the pen can come around. Look at ST L. last year they had the worst BP in the league at the break, and the guys they brought in did a real good job what are they doing this year, not so good. BP arms are streaky, Can Bastardo look more like first half Bastardo for a month or two why not, it is the nature of the beast. You can all follow AFW off the band wagon, and hope this teams losses more games so they can part with some expireing contracts for potential, and start over again next year. But in my mind they can still make a run. Look at the Rockies for the last couple of years they were 10-11 games back at the all star break and made a run each year, this team is as good as them, and you never know the pressure may get to the Nats if the Phillies run off 10 in a row and they go 4-6. I know I know it is not going to happen, the Nats are going to win 100 games and Phillies 60 so lets all just go home and cry ourselves to sleep

     
  • Posts: 2965 Chuck A.

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    beta – I’m not getting off the bandwagon and I don’t want them to pile up more losses just so they can be more motivated to sell. But they are not going to make the playoffs. They have 7….that’s SEVEN …. teams in front of them. It’s not happening. People seriously need to get real.

     
  • Posts: 903 betasigmadeltashag

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    Did you see the season last year, two teams in two divisions where what 7-8 games back with 10 -15 to go or some stupid number, I am sure you would be saying that the Cards, and the Rays had no chance in making the playoffs in the begining of sept last year. Do I think that they will make the playoffs, probably not, do I think there is not way they can make the playoffs, definatly not,(wait is that double negetive or something) What I am saying is I would not put my house up to bet on them making the playoffs, but would I throw $100 at 100-1 that they do, yes I might. Baseball is a funny game, look at the A’s a while back didn’t they win 20 in a row and don’t you think this team is better than that team?
    Now I am not saying the Phils will win 20 in a row or even 4 in a row. My point is that it is possible, is it possible if they trade Vic less likly, if they trade Cole less likly. But it is baseball and there is a reason they play 162 and not 100 games.
    One more thing even if they do not make a run at it, can we not at least enjoy a little spark, a little run of good baseball, for the sake of the game that we love. Just enjoy the wins and chalk it up to a bad year, Can’t we keep a little hope alive that it is not all about money and making the playoffs every year, watch to enjoy good baseball. Because we all know we did not see very much good baseball in the first half

     
  • Posts: 511 Morris Buttermaker

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    Beta, you make a lot of good points. But you are overlooking one key factor. Charlie Manuel allowed Ryan Howard to bat in the 8th inning against a lefty.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    He did it in the failure (playoffs) last year too.

    And he pitched Oswalt instead of Worley in the playoffs.

    Dolores you are programed to fail. Through and through.

    Why do you want to lose?
    You want Jimmy.
    You want Howie to hit away. Swing away 3-0.

    Why do you want to lose with the greatest pitching staff ever?

    You just do like Charlie and Beta.
    Holding out for heros.
    I am hlding out for a win.
    It didnt happen.

    So you win.
    I would say you are becoming the Cubs but they are not in last place.
    The Phillies are.

    Can you lock up Howard for any longer?
    You just need to offer some more money.
    He will hit 4th for the duration.

    Of curse Rollins 1 Utley 3 so it can be forever.

     
  • Posts: 0 Michael

    Would like to have some baserunning tips. Tips for stanlieg bases, what to look for when trying to steal 2nd and 3rd off of RHP’s and LHP’s and leads at 2nd base (deep or shallow) and why and what situation.

     
 
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