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Placido Polanco to DL with Injured Back

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Thu, July 26, 2012 04:45 PM | Comments: 23
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UPDATE, 5:59 pm: According to the Allentown Morning Call, Kevin Frandsen will get the call tomorrow.

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Phillies third baseman Placido Polanco heads to the 15-day DL with what is being referred to as lower back inflammation retroactive to July 23, according to Phils beat writer Todd Zolecki. A corresponding roster move will be announced before tomorrow’s game and will depend on if the Phils complete any trades before tomorrow. Pete Orr or Kevin Frandsen are by far the most likely to add infield depth but B.J. Rosenberg or Tyler Cloyd could be called up if there are further transactions to add pitching depth, alleviating a pitching surplus at Lehigh Valley created by Jonathan Pettibone‘s promotion.

Polanco has hit just .255/.300/.328 this year but his defense will be missed. Polanco’s replacement Ty Wigginton has started the last three games at third but has committed three errors in the last three games. Orr is hitting .260/.300/.331 in 183 PA at Triple-A Lehigh Valley where he has played left field and third while Frandsen was an International League All-Star and is hitting .302/.337/.396 in 418 PA and is proficient at all infield positions. Polanco’s trip to the DL leaves the Phils with just five active infielders, not including Laynce Nix, barring any trades or promotions.

Part of trade rumors himself, Polanco has been linked to the Orioles in recent days and Danny Knobler of CBS Sports reported today that the Orioles would have “tried hard” to acquire Polanco had he not been placed on the disabled list.

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  • Posts: 0 George

    Wow, was that ever unexpected!

    Everyone wants to know who will man third for the Phils next year, but with the number of games NOT played by Polanco in 2011 and 2012, I don’t see that 2013 will be any more of a problem.

    It’s a shame, though. He’s been a very good player. It’s too bad he’s gotten so crotchety.

     
    • Posts: 0 loupossehl

      The money spent on Papelbon made going after Reyes a non-starter. Reyes might have preferred us over the Marlins, and for less dollars – Philadelphia fills stadiums with real fans; plays baseball on a real field and not in an air-conditioned box; and we’re a superior organization that, in this day and age, fields a perennial contender. Might that have been a difference-maker? No one knows, because since there was never Word 1 about us even being in contention for Reyes, I don’t think the effort was ever made.

      Rollins was and is a great Phillie – it’s almost silly to feel a need to state that as a “given.” However, signing him long-term as we did solved nothing long-term, and only served to exacerbate our infield difficulties, long-term. The way ownership has dealt with Rollins and Hamels gives us great street cred – but at too great a price, as it pertains to Rollins. Reyes at SS could have set us in that key position for years to come, and given us flexibility for other options.

      Is the Marlins uniform feeling a bit tight for Reyes, and would he have welcomed an overture from Philadelphia? Who knows, but here’s something interesting from bleacherreport.com … yesterday:

      “The Toronto Blue Jays have been linked to both Hanley Ramirez and Josh Johnson of late, but Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the team may have it’s sights set on yet another Miami Marlin.

      Namely, Jose Reyes.”

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        Gigantic “ifs” here. “If” they’d gone after Reyes instead of Papelbon, “If” Reyes would have signed, “If” he could have been gotten for less than Paps.

        There is also this overlooked factor: even at his younger age, Reyes has spent more time injured in the past few years than Rollins has. And by signing Reyes at the pay he signed for with the Marlins, he’d have given the Phils absolutely no more flexibility than they’d have without Papelbon, and they’d be without a closer.

         
      • Posts: 0 loupossehl

        Jeff sez,

        “Polly is better off on the DL. Just cant trade him.

        I know Jimmy is selfish but move him to third when galvis gets back. Galvis to short.
        Might not be a bad idea. Galvis is still a much better d then jimmy.”

        That’s an example of the flexibility issue: Reyes as SS; move Jimmie to 3rd. Galvis has a year to mature at AAA while Chase plays out the ’12 season as an ageing gimp. (If Jimmie doesn’t go along with the idea, or if he can’t be signed for MAX. a couple of years, then you DON’T SIGN him, and save big bucks spent on a down-hill, older guy.)

        As to Reyes vs. Paps – you kick the tires on the Reyes idea first … if it’s not to be, then OK go after Papelbon. Would Reyes cost less or more than Papelbon – who knows; it’s major bucks either way, and signing him would have precluded Papelbon. It’s a tough call, but better to solve a situation with a key position player for the next half-dozen years or so, than go after a relief pitcher. For ’13 and beyond, you have Reyes and Galvis in the infield – together with Howard, which is fine – and all of a sudden the entire complexion of our vulnerable infield has changed for the better.

         
  • Posts: 0 loupossehl

    It didn’t take a rocket scientist to see this coming. An 36-year-old guy playing the hot corner, coming off a double hernia operation. A walking 15-day DL candidate. Aggravation of old injury, or something new getting bent out of shape … the clock was ticking until something gave – and so it has. Whatever other roster problems may have cropped up for us this year, our Achilles heel was and is an aging, beat-up, in-decline, infield with little help to be expected from the farm system. That ominous vulnerability was there for all to see at the end of last season … and in the off-season and right up to now, we’ve done nothing meaningful to address it.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Who were the Phils supposed to address the infield situation with? A lot of money had already been tied up a few years back in Utley and Howard, so those two weren’t replaceable with anyone elite. Rollins, despite his age, was still the best option. (Furcal is about the same age, and has just as much of an injury record, and Reyes was too expensive) He also hasn’t missed many innings so far. The only 3rd base guy available was Ramirez, and he was too expensive and is also quite old.

       
  • Posts: 0 teejvee

    Fear not. We have Ty’ The werewolf’ Wiggington ready to take Polanco’s spot!

     
  • Posts: 899 schmenkman

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    I know that Polanco always seems to be ailing with something, but there are only 6 players with more innings at third base in 2010-12.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=3b&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2012&month=0&season1=2010&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0&sort=3,d

     
  • Posts: 2071 Brooks

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    On the other hand Schmenkman, Poly does have 15 years of ML experience, he is a good player when he plays. In those 15 years, he has played more than 150 games in a single season only 1 time, more than 140 games only 5 times. The man is injury prone.

    Expect no more than 130 games from Poly. Hopefully, his swing will pick up where he has traditionally been one of the elite hitters in the majors.

     
    • Posts: 899 schmenkman

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      No argument here. The only point was that if you wanted a third baseman who was able to stay on the field more than Polanco, there are only 6 in the majors who have actually played more.

       
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Speaking of Polanco, in that expansive thread on trading Pence, also on this blog from today, several people touch on Plac, and the idea of re-signing him at a lesser rate as a utility guy after the Phils decline the mutual option.

    And that idea has been mentioned numerous times in numerous places.

    I think a number of people are inclined to feel that way, forseeing few options for Plac. I think he may have more of a market than many seem to think, but perhaps even more importantly, he carries one helluva rep within from his time with both the Cards and Tigers

    There’s no reason that I’m aware that he wouldn’t want to continue here, but being well thought of throughout the game, he figures to have choices. And former employers might be very enthused to have him back.

     
  • Posts: 551 Bruce

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    Tough luck (again) for Polanco. The team will miss his glove (hopefully not long).This will present a problem right now. Wiggington is a disaster at 3B having committed 12 errors already in so few games playing that position. I rather not see a player called up from the minor league having NO ML experience .

    My choice would be Mike Fontenot at 3B. It’s a temporary solution until Polanco hopefully returns.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Eight of his 12 errors have come at 3B (horrendous nonetheless). Agree on Fontenot.

       
  • Posts: 26 jeff y

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    Ty Wigginton does suck at third base.

     
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  • Posts: 2071 Brooks

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    Wiggington is definitely NOT the answer even in the short term. Fontenot has to play himself out of the position at least. His offense seems to be more than adequate – I mean for a guy that MIGHT be 5’6″ tall and 150 lbs, I’m surprised he has hit even one home run.

    In the meantime, unless Fontenot does implode offensively, bring up the young pitching stud Cloyd and see what he can do. To fill the IF gap, bring up Orr. The point is do not make a desperation move to fill Poly’s spot. Finding the right fit at third has to be a well thought out process. You don’t want a Mark Reynolds and it’d be as tough (not to mention expensive) as hell to get a David Wright or Longoria. Fill in the gap until Poly comes back.

    Sorry to leave the subject matter – back to Pence. I had strong, very strong hopes and faith in D Brown and watched time after time, chance after chance with men in scoring position for him to do something and it never, never, never panned out. And of course, junior is not working out and regardless of how much we love to see Juan Pierre bat, his arm is just too weak to justify him playing everyday. Filling LF will be difficult enough, trying to fill the RF spot as well is just about an impossible task.

    Ryan Ludwick? Yes he is 34 and his numbers have been declining. But he might be cheap and a short term solution. I would consider Pence/Ludwick and a pitching prospect.

     
    • Posts: 899 schmenkman

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      They chose Kevin Frandsen (.733 OPS this year) over Orr (.631 OPS).

      Brown hit at the league average last year (98 OPS+), which is pretty good for a 23 yo rookie (at the same age, Utley was in AAA, Pence in AA, and Howard in A+ ball).

      Stats with RISP are notoriously variable in small samples. He’s hitting .353 this year in those situations.

       
  • Posts: 1190 Manny

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    Just play Fontenot.

     
  • Posts: 0 Jeff

    Polly is better off on the DL. Just cant trade him.

    I know Jimmy is selfish but move him to third when galvis gets back. Galvis to short.
    Might not be a bad idea. Galvis is still a much better d then jimmy.

     
    • Posts: 899 schmenkman

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      Rollins-Galvis is better than than Fontenot-Rollins?

       
      • Posts: 0 c schreiber

        Absolutly!!!

         
    • Posts: 0 brooks

      We have had a very limited exposure to Galvis and have seen Jimmy play daily for years. How can you make that assessment? Oh, that’s right its Jeffy.

       
      • Posts: 0 c schreiber

        Any decent shortstop can play third base!!! Rollins & galvis would be termendous defense on the left side.

         
 
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