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Schierholtz to DL, Polly to Rehab

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Mon, August 13, 2012 05:45 PM | Comments: 15
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Schierholtz will miss at least three to four weeks with a broken right big toe. Photo: AP

Nate Schierholtz will miss at least three to four weeks with a broken right big toe, according to Matt Gelb. Schierholtz was hitting .219/.278/.344 (7 for 32) in 11 games with the Phillies with one home run. Gelb reports that Laynce Nix will see time in center field and Domonic Brown will remain primarily in right.

Infielder Hector Luna was recalled to replace Schierholtz. Luna is hitting .291/.338/.453 with six home runs for the IronPigs. No word on if Luna will see any time at third or how he would factor in with the hot-hitting Kevin Frandsen (.326/.367/.413, 15 for 49) manning the hot corner. Luna was likely called-up instead of an outfielder because the Phillies do not currently have any other outfielders on the 40-man roster aside from Double-A Reading’s Tyson Gillies, who is performing well (.293/.371/.441, 3 HRs, 8 SB) but whose time has been limited by injury and suspension (45 games played).

In other third base news, Placido Polanco is expected to start a rehab assignment Wednesday. Polanco began hitting last Thursday as first reported by the Morning Call and may be activated for Saturday’s game in Milwaukee. Polanco has been battling lower back inflamation.

Commentary: Although Schierholtz has struggled since arriving in Philadelphia, his .219/.278/.344 line has actually been better than Hunter Pence’s .154/.167/.288 line in San Francisco. Schierholtz has looked comfortable playing both center and right in 11 games in Philadelphia. Nix is an interesting choice to man center field in his absence, particularly with the availability of Brown, unless the Phillies value Brown’s arm more in right field.

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  • Posts: 0 DCmikey

    W all the respect to Polanco, I am fine w Kevin Frandsen at 3rd. We canNOT rely on Placido for 2013. He is injury prone and will cost us 5.5. It’s a shame bc he defense is unreal. But we just need KF to stop the balls at 3rd and any hits, like Feliz had in 2008, are a major bonus.

    Let’s face it, we have to save somewhere!!! And I would rather have a GOOD CF over a 3b.

    Ps- how great does Hudson Street look. Wish we signed him.

    ANYY chance Mad Dog rejoins the Phils next season??

     
    • Posts: 0 Jeff Dowder

      You would think that from the moment they signed Polanco after the 2009 season, that they’d have some sort of plan in mind for 2013 (that didn’t include relying on a 37 year old injury prone player). RAJ doesn’t seem to operate that way though. He always seems to be patching holes as they occur, which is usually not very cost effective. A lot of bad contracts are handed out that way.

      Huston Street was not a free agent – the Padres traded a minor league pitcher for him over the winter. A lot of people questioned the Phillies allocating so much money to Papelbon when the rest of the bullpen was unproven, and we’ve seen the results of that decision.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        There’s always a plan, but sometimes that plan doesn’t work out. You’re not being fair when you say Amaro has been sitting on his hands the past three years. Sometimes there’s just nobody available when you try to get a decent replacement.

         
      • Posts: 5143 Lefty

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        George, I wouldn’t say it was a case of not having a plan, but ultimately the responsibility does fall on Amaro. It’s the job he took on, and I’m pretty sure he’d be the first to admit that. I’ll even take that 2 steps further and say that it’s the failed plans of Wade, Gillick and Amaro that are the reason this team hasn’t had a third baseman that could hit and hit with power in 8 years. And that’s if you count the one good year David Bell had in 04, otherwise it goes back to Scott Rolen before him.

        If every plan fails for 8-10 years, they aren’t successful plans. I don’t put the blame solely on Amaro, it’s on everyone from scouts to coaches to all the way up. Scouting, developing, making trades, buying FA’s, picking up rule 5′s, claiming on waivers. All of these attempts to upgrade have not been successful for a long time now.

        You can say they don’t grow on trees, and that’s absolutely correct. But surely if you see you are in a position of need, you can come up with a solution in 8-10 years. That’s not too much for paying fans to ask. I am hoping they can rectify this, especially because we really don’t know what Chase Utley’s knees are going to be like next spring. You can kind of give them a pass all this time because we had the power at 2nd base that other teams didn’t have, but now we don’t know that anymore.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        Amaro has at least made more of an attempt than any of his predecessors to rectify the 3rd base “plan,” which was essentially no plan at all. Wade signed Bell, of course, but should have known about his bad back. Amaro, though, tried to sign Beltre, who hits, hits for power, is a great defender, and has been mostly healthy. He wouldn’t have made the offer if he felt the former approach was any good.

        I won’t pass any judgements here. I’ll only say that when a person inherits a broken plan, it can take years to rectify the situation. The prospects drafted under Amaro, for instance, have been low picks. He’s been GM now for not quite four years, and sometimes even the very good prospects take that long or longer to make it to the majors.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        I don’t think the plan failed in 2010-2011. Defense counts too, and with that factore in Polanco was certainly above average overall.

         
      • Posts: 5143 Lefty

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        Schmenkman, I don’t discount defense at all. I was not against the move to get Polanco due to what I said in the earlier comment about Utley being able to hit with power. As it turns out Placido’s body, like most ball players in their mid thirties was beginning to wear down, and he had some bad luck on that pitch that hit his elbow after already injuring it.

        What I think the Jeff Dowder was saying is that, that should not have been the end of the plan. I doubt it was, but I really think it’s high time RA jr. gave more serious consideration to analytics, or other teams are going to continue to have an edge. His admissions on National TV like this one, “We’re probably one of those clubs that will err on the side of our scouts and what they see in their hearts and their heads and their eyes.” worry me greatly.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Lefty, agree with everything you said there, particularly Amaro and analytics. I was just reacting to the comment about the plan failing for 8 years.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        Lefty, et al: I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the Amaro statement cited here. He isn’t saying that the Phils DON’T rely on analytics at all, but just that they would probably factor in the player’s perceived overall makeup a little more.

        While it could be argued that the team doesn’t look at the analytics enough, (and I’d probably even say that myself) it could also be argued that their approach has usually kept them away from players who look good on paper but have proven to be disasters otherwise; those like Manny Ramirez, Delmon Young, and Milton Bradley. I’d much prefer a slightly flawed athlete to a guy who’s a constant clubhouse distraction or an off-the-field idiot; a guy who tries to overcome his weaknesses to one who thinks his doo-doo doesn’t stink.

         
  • Avatar of The Original Chuck P

    There are no options at third base… Unless you can nab one via trade. If you want to see an upgrade over what we’ve got, it has to be in center field.

     
  • Posts: 0 Drolz

    With Schierholtz on the DL I’d like to see Tyson Gillies called up. He’s kind of like Von Hayes in that he’s a great athlete, but has to deal with the flak that comes with being on the wrong end of a high-profile trade (just like Hayes was a solid ballplayer but was forever known as “5-for-1″). Nonetheless, Gillies has the tools to be the next Victorino. Would love to see what he can do here.

     
  • Posts: 0 SavannahPhilliesPhan

    I was looking at Greg Dobbs and I didn’t realize he was a 3rd baseman. He is 34 and he’s only making $1.5 mil. Is he a prospect? I no nothing about sabremetrics (sp) but his batting average is 295. What do you all think?

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Greg Dobbs is a 3rd baseman in name only. He plays the outfield sometimes, too, and is a defensive liability there,too. When the Phils had him, they used him mostly to pinch hit, and he had one really good year doing that. At 34, he’s been around long enough to have passed the prospect stage, and at $1.5 million he’s being paid about what he’s worth as a player.

       
  • Posts: 0 SavannahPhilliesPhan

    Also I mentioned this before, why wasnt one of the AA/ AAA players trained for 3rd base? They had to see this coming for awhile. Everything I read about the guys in AAA is that they can’t move up because they were trained for first base and are blocked by RH.
    Couldn’t they take one of those guys and retrain them to play 3rd base?

     
    • Posts: 0 Rick

      If they could have played 3rd base you better believe they’d still be at third base. Sticking someone at first is a last resort for all minor leaguers. You get stuck there when it’s known you suck everywhere else in the field. You can’t just teach people to play whatever position you want them to. They have to have the athletic ability to play that position.

       
 
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