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Doc Falters Again In Crucial Loss

Posted by Eric Seidman, Sat, September 22, 2012 09:46 PM | Comments: 36
2012 Game Recaps

This has been a very confusing and frustrating season for Roy Halladay. After posting six straight seasons of 31 starts, 220 innings, and at least 6 WAR, Halladay is on pace to finish with 163 innings over 25 starts and, the way he has thrown lately, perhaps not even 3 WAR to his line. Many of his numbers are where we would expect them to be, but his ability to strand runners has regressed to the mean and his home run rate is over twice what it was a year ago. Put those two ingredients together and it’s understandable how the man whose ERA and FIP haven’t been above 2.79 and 3.01, respectively, since 2008 suddenly has respective marks 4.40 and 3.67.

He hasn’t felt right, health-wise, all season, and hasn’t been able to get in a groove after returning from his recent disabled list stint. He has certainly shown flashes of the Halladay from 2007-11, but in his 13 starts since returning, he has six good to great games, two mediocre games (the literal quality start of 6 IP, 3 ER), and five absolute clunkers. At a time when the Phillies desperately need the Halladay they know, he is pitching inconsistently, and has fallen into the boom-or-bust category. It’s almost as if he and Kyle Kendrick have a Freaky Friday playing out.

Unfortunately, Halladay didn’t deliver in a game that may have broken the Phillies season. Now four games back with only 10 left to play, it will take a minor miracle for the Phillies to find themselves playing in the wild card play-in game.

The Phillies trailed the Cardinals by three games entering Saturday afternoon’s game with the Braves and, on paper, had the advantage in the starting pitching department. Mike Minor has been better of late, but even with his poor run prevention this season, it’s tough to give a pitching advantage to the opposition when Roy Halladay is on the hill. That advantage was quickly eliminated, however, when Halladay went walk, single, ground out, single, homer, strikeout in the first inning. Michael Bourn was erased on the basepaths after a leadoff walk, but it was clear from the get-go that Doc didn’t have his best stuff. Teams typically have to get to pitchers like him early on, when he is still figuring out the zone and getting a sense of his ‘stuff” on the day, but the Braves weren’t even done after Freddie Freeman‘s three-run homer.

Halladay walked Brian McCann to lead off the second inning — meaning the guy that rarely walks anyone walked the leadoff batter in the first two frames. After striking out Jose Constanza and Minor, he allowed a single to Bourn and walked Prado to load the bases. The feeling was ominous at this point, and fears were realized mere moments later when Jason Heyward cleared the bases with a three-run double. Halladay was done after the hit, allowing six runs on his own over 1.2 innings, and getting charged for a seventh run when Chipper Jones doubled in Heyward off of Jeremy Horst.

His end line — 1.2 IP, 5 H, 7 ER, 3 BB, 3 SO — produced a Game Score of 17. Game Score is a stat created by Bill James that attempts to measure the overall quality of a start on a 1-100 scale. Halladay doesn’t usually dip that low. Last season, his lowest score was 31, in a 9-0 loss to the Brewers. The year before that, his lowest was 26, in the clunker against the Red Sox. In 2009, his lowest score was 25. In 2008, his low was 39. It’s pretty tough to score below 20 on this scale, and Halladay is clearly a stranger to those types of results. However, they aren’t foreign this season, as his low entering tonight was also 17, and it also came in a game against the Braves. Halladay has struggled to prevent runs this season, but even more so against the division rival Braves.

Offensively, the Phillies mustered just three hits: a Carlos Ruiz single, a Kevin Frandsen triple, and Ryan Howard‘s 300th career home run.

The Phillies will look to win the series on Sunday and once again get to three games above .500. The season has been very disappointing, but their post-all star break performance has been encouraging to the point that they actually had a legitimate shot at making the playoffs entering that Houston series. After losing three of the four to the lowly Astros, the Phillies almost had to win every game left on the schedule to have a fighting chance, and Halladay getting shelled in this crucial game, with the offense failing to show up as well, is a microcosm of this season.

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  • Posts: 0 Double Trouble Del

    Why would he start another game this season. He is clearly hurt.

     
  • Posts: 0 H

    Someone needs to shut him down. Get fixed. Get right. But he’s costing us big time. He’s obviously not right.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr

    This is the problem with this wild card. Its like every guy in high school chasing that hot virgin and 99.9 % of the guys end up with blue balls.

     
  • Posts: 0 DavidE

    I don’t think Roy has been bad since coming back. He is 6-3 since his return and had some really good outings to get the Phillies back in the race. He was particularly good in August. Regarding some of his clunker starts, he got the win. The Phillies are 9-4 in the games he started. He pitched at least 6 innings in 10 of his last 12 starts. Don’t underestimate the importance of that. It helped the bullpen. In 2 of the games that the Phillies lost, he had quality starts. Nevertheless, it would probably be better if the Phillies gave his next start to either Rosenberg or Horst.

    Regarding the wild card, it was a long shot, is now a longer shot and the Phillies likely failure to make the wild card has been a team effort.

    The bullpen was very good. Horst continues to impress. Rosenberg has put himself back into the mix for next season. Great strikeout by Diekman on Chipper Jones with the bases loaded too. Ryan Howard had a couple of good at bats. O’Flaherty has owned him over the years but Howard really hit a shot off him today.

     
  • Posts: 0 Devin

    It was irresponsible, selfish, and unprofessional of Halladay to take the field if he was not physically capable of performing. He’s being an ass by insisting on pitching if he’s not able to pitch. BJ f-ing Rosenberg could have made a better start.

     
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      The key words there being IF, obviously.

       
  • Posts: 542 Bruce

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    Hey.. the Phillies lost to a team going to the playoffs. Let’s give some credit to a good hitting team that also have impressive young pitchers in their rotation. What fitting farewell story it would be for the future hall of famer, Chipper Jones to play in the playoffs one more time.

    As for our team, hoping they will resume their winning ways and finished with a above .500 record. That’s quite an accomplishment considering their won-lost record stood at 45-57 on July 31st and lost two of their productive regulars (Victorino & Pence) when Amaro decided to do some salary dumping.

    Congratulations to the ‘Big Piece” on hitting his 300th HR for his career. He is the second fastest player in ML history to reach that total. He reached No. 300 in his 1,093rd at-bat. Hall of Famer Ralph Kiner hit his 300th homer in his 1,087th at-bat.

    Howard, the RBI machine, now has 55 RBIs in just 66 games played. He is hitting .344 with RISP.

     
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      Well said. The numbers are games, of course (not at bats).

       
  • Posts: 0 Jaron B

    First of all, congratulations to Ryan Howard on HR #300. A nice moment in a forgettable game. Onto the bad… I start with our WC hopes dwindling again despite still being in the race mathematically. Topic finished. Now onto Doc…

    I expected Halladay to have a game like this. Despite a decent past nine starts, he has allowed more runs every time out during the 2nd half of that period. Doc’s current mechanics are horrible. We know this. Dubee knows this. We have an off-day and Cloyd, Kendrick, Lee, and Hamels doing well as of late. Our off-day gives us the flexibility to move Doc’s next start to Saturday, giving him TWO bullpen sessions (the 24th & 26th) to work on mechanics. Winning 84 games for a tie for the 2nd WC is the most realistic best-case scenario IMO. We delay Doc’s start and we are in better position to stay in the hunt longer. We were giving auditions for next year anyway: we should consider ourselves lucky to even BE in this position. So what’s the harm of shifting the rotation? Doc may even benefit from it.

     
  • Posts: 0 jon

    roy had a bad outing rest of pitching seemed solid. good for ryan howard, focus on next game and plan to throw cliff lee in wc playoff w brewers….yep brewers phils in wc game! phillies win and move on

     
  • Posts: 0 Brooks

    Recall last year, facing Chicago (I think it was) – he was taken out of a game due to heat exhaustion. Truthfully, I don’t think he has been quite the same Doc since.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Recall that after facing Chicago, he went on to finish second for the Cy Young Award.

      His problems started this year, not last, and it’s most likely due to that lat strain causing him to form some bad habits. He’ll need not only bullpen sessions, but actual games to work out those issues. If his stuff is not what it once was, he’ll also need actual games to figure out how to change his approach to real hitters. One or two more appearances probably won’t hurt the team, because they’re most likely out of the playoff picture, anyway.

      I’d also point out that with a total of three Phils hits, even a stellar Roy Halladay probably would have been the losing pitcher.

       
      • Posts: 0 Brooks

        George, after that 21 hit barrage I was sort of expecting the ’2 hits going into the 9th’ kind of game. The 4 home runs was also out of the ordinary so the incredibly weak offensive display was not unexpected.
        I don’t think anyone expected to see the total letdown by Doc though.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        First, Brooks, I did not say that the offensive letdown was unexpected. I only said that in getting three whole hits, Halladay probably would have lost anyway.

        I did read today that Halladay admitted to having spasms below his left shoulder. If this is the case, I now agree with those other comments that he should be shut down.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        I meant, of course, right shoulder. I must have been thinking too much about today, when Cliff Lee also got no run support.

         
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      After that Chicago game last year, he had 12 starts and went 8-2 with a 1.98 ERA.

      And to George’s point, some national analysts thought he had the better year and should have won the Cy Young over triple crown winner Kershaw.

       
  • Posts: 5226 Lefty

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    I remember the day in Spring Training when Roy Halladay addressed concerns about his velocity and performance.

    “Yeah, I’m 34 and 2,500 innings, it does take a while to get going,” he said. “I don’t pay attention to that. The older you get, the more you throw, the longer it takes you to get yourself going. When I came up, I threw 98. Last year, I was throwing 92-93. It’s not unusual. When you get older, it takes you longer. The more innings you throw, the more it takes to get yourself going again.”

    I have no opinion on this, I’m no health expert. I just wanted to remind people what he said in March. Think about then, think about now, think about the what we can hope he’ll be able to do in the future. Can he ever be the old Doc? I hope so.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7691021/philadelphia-phillies-starter-roy-halladay-says-fine

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    I find this quote to be inspiring to kick a horse when it’s down…

    “This was a big win for us for the simple fact, it slows Philly’s roll a little bit,” third baseman Chipper Jones said after the Braves handed the Phillies just their sixth loss in 22 games and snapped their eight-game home winning streak. “I don’t think anybody in baseball wants to face them in a one-game playoff, with their three aces and that offense. It would be a tough task for anybody. We did a good job of slowing their momentum and hopefully picking some up in the meantime.”

    I know this is be kind to Chipper weekend, and in fact, if today’s game is one sided either way, I might go so far as to actually root for a memorable final at bat, but despite his having a HOF experience career, this is the most political statement we’ll hear all year in a year of them aplenty.

    What the hell 3 aces do the Phillies have? Not that 3 aces are gonna pitch in 1 playoff game anyway, but due respect to Hamels and Lee, this nonsense about the Phillies being so “scary” compared to Carpenter, Wainright, Lohse and Lynn, or Gallardo and Marcum is really overdone. Let alone if you wind up in a deeper series, against the Giants, Nats, or Reds, all of whom most certainly have quite respectable starting staffs, even if only 1 of whom even approaches being clearly better (no Strasburg considered).

    Doesn’t much matter anymore, and if the Phils had made the playoffs, great, but this “nobody wants to play the Phillies” was pretty entertaining the last couple weeks. It’s not 100% ridiculous, but pretty much entertaining.

    As for Doc, the quotes suggest he wants to pitch again this year. I’m sorry, in the overall scheme of things, I don’t see ANY point to it, MAYBE even with a major change in the standings the next 4 days. There comes a time where rest has to be seen as wiser than satisfying one’s competitive juices.

     
  • Posts: 0 arc

    Ruben Must be fired! this organization has failed on three fronts under his administration. 1. this team has overspent with no results. 2. this team has spent money on the wrong players 3. this team has systematically gotten worse every year since Amaro has taken over. Chemistry is something you cant buy, but you sure can ruben, I mean ruin. This is the guy who waited to sign Hamels until he commanded the highest pitching salary in the mlb when we could have gotten him for less. This is the guy who dumped Gonzales, this is the guy who dumps Victorino, and Pence, and gets S**t in return. This is the guy who got rid of worth who wanted to much, but turned around and gave that away in a pitcher who in the playoffs make little difference. he gives away Madsen, and over pays for a closer who we never get to lose because we consistently lose. You rely on one season wonder Chase, and senior citizen Polanco? You were going to rely on Mayberry, Wiggington, Nix? Until what? They used to cal him Ruben clause, lokks like 4 yrs later all the gifts we got were defective, or needed batteries, and this year we got nothing for Christmas. Well philly thats what we get for being a naughty fanbase. ((F***ck you forever Amaro)))

     
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      George responded well below, but I’ll add this: most analysts agree that the return for VIctorino and Pence was actually pretty good.

      I don’t know what “one season wonder” is referring to, since Utley had the best 7-year run by a second baseman in the last 30 years, but the fact is that for the time he’s been on the field (which is not enough time, I admit), he’s been the best second baseman in the game this year, with Cano not far behind.

       
    • Posts: 0 Jaron B

      The Howard contract made things the hardest for Rube down the road. He should not have offered more than $85-95MM over five years. While half the roster was made during the tenures of Gillick and Wade, most of Rube’s trades (December and July), free-agency acquisitions, & contract extensions have improved the Phillies over the past five years. Yes, getting rid of Lee pre-2009 was a bad decision and some of the contracts he handed out were awful, but it’s partly because of Rube’s moves that we’ve won a World Series, two NL pennants and five NL East titles. We just need that 2nd world championship.

      Rube’s Grade: B+

       
  • Posts: 0 Shazbot

    I’m sorry, but what the hell? There was what, a WS win, followed up by several seasons of winning? And now there was a bad one, off the bandwagon you go? Complaining about Amaro is pretty reasonable, but damn, man, no complaints about Cholly? If that’s all it takes to say ‘piss off’ to your team, then good riddance?

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    arc, you are a moron. For one thing, it was Gillick who trade Gonzalez, not Amaro. Second, there is no real proof that he could have signed Hamels for less earlier in the year. Hamels isn’t stupid, and wasn’t about to commit to a low-ball contract. Third, how did the team get worse every year when their regular season record kept improving? Fourth, Lee has won other playoff games, he just didn’t win last year. Fifth, Pence and Victorino couldn’t bring ANY GM a huge return because Vic was a rental player having a bad year, and Pence would have been way over priced after arbitration; and in case you haven’t checked, the team play has improved since those trades. (Ruined chemistry, perhaps?) Also the “nothing” returned are considered to be really good prospects and you can’t be calling them nothing simply because they’re still in the minors; That would be like calling Hamels nothing when he was in A ball. Sixth, Madson, in case you didn’t notice, can’t even pitch this year. Seventh, there’s only so much a person can do to replace guys like Utley and Howard, because those two still have to be played, and no one would be willing to sign with the Phils if they knew they’d have no playing time when Utley and Howard returned. Eighth, Utley has not been a “one-season wonder” by any stretch of the imagination. He’d been an elite second baseman for years until injuries got him, and he’s still above average.

    I’d say more, but it’d be useless. One never gets through a head made of solid rock.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      “trade” should be “traded;” “played,” in the case of Utley and Howard, should be “payed.”

      I tend to miss a detail or two when I’m absolutely disgusted with others’ idiocy.

       
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      George, agree 100%.

       
  • Posts: 0 arc

    George, first the name calling only helps to define you as the moron. Now to all of your points, ok, Gillick, Amaro traded Gonzales whatever. Youve missed the big picture, which again attests to your intelligence not mine. Now, you say theres no proof Hamels would have signed for less, but its reasonable to believe he would have. With no contracts as the standard of the amount of salary his capabilities would have commanded, and then a yet unproven season, the leverage was definitely more in favor of Phillies admin. Next, here is where you miss the picture, Lee, hamels, and Halliday have said, along with many professional athletes, that they play to win championships. I dont know any fan, with the exception of you who goes into a season saying; “My team is planinng to take it all this season, that is have the best record” you sound like the moron. Having perpetually better records look good for a rising team like the Nats, but look bad for a declining team like the Phillies. At this point arent we playing for championships? If not then every season is a winning season. Next, so yes Vic and Pence couldnt bring back a huge return, so why the F**ck trade them? How did that move improve our team? we basically payed their salary for another team to use them, that is if they didnt pick up the salary, whatever. Next, again so Madsen wouldnt have played this season. What dfference would that have made? Oh yeah, we got to keep that good record your so proud of, oh wait we’re only two games above .500. hell, Tommy Johns, he would be ready soon and cost a whole lot less. Next, only so much you can do to replace Utley? His production was matched by AAA Galvis. Utleys production? since 08 Utley has been on a decline in every baseball stat. Amaro knew he was hurt, but Amaros priority has been pitching, so he took his chances with hoping for some kind of resurgence, and Utley is not “still above avg.(are you insane)Utley is not even in the top 17 of starting 2 basemen(moron). And as I recall in my post I said nothing about Howard, why did you bring him up? Id say more, but if you can call me a moron, and then respond to my post with utter foolishness, well this post wont make much difference either. Fans like you are the reason Amaro will be here, Manuel, Howard, and Rollins will get all the blame, and youll get exactly what you covet ” a winning record”.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      It’s you who is missing the big picture if you don’t understand why a team should trade a player who isn’t returning. You also don’t seem to realize that when a player is traded, the OTHER TEAM pays his salary. (I’ll grant that the Phils sent a small ammount of cash along with Pence, but NOT his entire paycheck.)

      You are also confusing facts and conjecture in your assessment of the Hamels negotiations.

      Also, please tell me how on earth a team that improves its record every year is “declining?”

      Galvis’ production being equal to Utley’s? I don’t think anybody would agree with that. Besides, Galvis wasn’t signed; he was already in the system.

      I’m not going to waste anymore time with you. I’ve already given you ample rope, and you’ve used it just as I thought you would.

       
      • Posts: 0 arc

        Please dont waste anymore of your time with your fanatical analysis, or trying to prove to me you know what your talking about. Again, trading Pence and Vic makes perfect sense if their trade value no matter how small is greater than their current production, not the case. But that is standard procedure, however, everything has to be taken in terms of the specific situation. You lose two good outfielders for a weak bullpen arm, a platoon outfielder, and a prospect. None of these moves help you this season, or next season, so the cost this season is a negative to the organization. Yes, you do get some players in return now because next season you will get nothing. I get that, But guess what? next season we need a f**cking center fielder and right fielder!!(moron??), Next, again like I said, there was good reason to believe that the leverage was in favor of the Phils org to sign Hamels for less earlier on. That is a fact. The reality that the Phils ended up paying a 3 starter one of the highest pitching salaries in history is a fact also.
        What could, or would have been is all conjecture, but I am entitled to speculate based on good reason, and well within rational thought to believe that he could have been gotten for less. Im sure you were one of the fans screaming for Amaro to sign him early in the season, if you say you werent you are lying. Next, as far as Freddy Galvis replacing Utley, the only stats we have to compare both players at the same point in careers is Utleys 2003 season with for games played. vs. galvis 58 games played. check any baseball site you want, Galvis outperforms Utley in every statistic. Also Utley, this season BA. is not even in the top 15 for second basemen in the MLB. Next, as far as the Phils improving their record, you must be referring to their wins/losses, why is that the statistic you chose to measure their success by? Again, this type of success is phenomenal when you’re coming from the basement, not so impressive when your falling from the attic. At the end of the season the amount of regular season wins means nothing, let alone the fact one must take into account what was the level of competition they played the bulk of their games against. Be careful of the misuse of statistical information(amateur mistake). Again, who at this point is impressed with the amount of wins the Phils have? What award do you get for that again? Better yet can you tell me the past 5 seasons who has had the most wins in baseball? Next, You ask “how on earth a team that improves their record every year is declining?” Your question is based on fallacious reasoning. Check fallacy of the single clause, and equivocation. Stick to being a good quiet fan, and leave logic to those who can handle it. And again, just so you can catch on, the big F***CCKKING picture isssss; each season since 2008 the Phils championship chances have declined!!!!!!! can you F**cking refute that???(and you have the nerve to call someone a moron)lol
        Fire Amaro, and Andy Reid, their idiocy is rubbing off on the fan base.

         
      • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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        “And again, just so you can catch on, the big F***CCKKING picture isssss; each season since 2008 the Phils championship chances have declined!!!!!!!”

        I love this. The anger is almost palpable (as is the spittle).

        A 5 or 7 game series is more about which team is hot than which team is better. It’s the 162-game sample of the regular season that determines who the best team is, so yes — the Phillies did improve in 2009, 2010, and 2011.

         
    • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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      arc. Read carefully: Utley. Is. The. Best. Second Baseman. In. Baseball. This. Year.

      Now read it again.

       
      • Posts: 0 arc

        read carefully: you are a cult follower. Utley sucks, check the stats

         
      • Posts: 872 schmenkman

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        Ok. Let’s check the stats.

        You quote batting average, but as a baseball fan (and an apparently passionate one at that), you must realize that batting average is a very flawed stat — it doesn’t tell you how much power someone has, since it treats a single the same as a homer or double, and it hints at but doesn’t tell you how much someone is getting one base (which is the most important thing a batter can do), since it doesn’t include walks. You must also realize that there is more to being a good player than just hitting.

        Among all MLB second baseman, Utley has:
        - the highest OBP (.375)
        - the 4th highest Slugging percentage (.451)
        - the 4th highest OPS (.827)

        The player who has been neck and neck with Utley this year as the best second baseman for most of this year is Robinson Cano, so let’s compare the two:

        - Cano has the higher slugging percentage (.522) and OPS (.887)
        - However Cano has a lower OBP (.365)
        - Overall, Cano has a slight advanage in overall hitting, using the comprehensive hitting stat wOBA, which is explained here (http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/offense/woba/):
        Cano .375 wOBA, Utley .359

        - Cano is doing better than usual defensively, but Utley’s defense is still better this year using advanced fielding stats.
        - Utley has been the much better baserunner as usual.

        The stat that puts all this together is Wins Above Replacement, and these are the leaders for the year:

        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=2b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=200&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

        1. Cano 6.0 WAR in 151 games
        ….
        9. Utley 3.1 WAR in 74 games

        Obviously Utley has only played half the season and that’s a real advantage for Cano — he’s been on the field all year and the Yankees haven’t had to fill in with a Galvis type.

        But for the time that he’s actually been on the field, no second baseman in the game has been better than Utley this year.

        WAR per 162 games:
        1. Utley 6.8
        2. Cano 6.4
        3. Hill 6.1

         
      • Posts: 0 arc

        No, the best team is determined by who wins the World Series. get it? sometimes the most obvious things have been smacking us in the face all along. My old psych teacher used to have a saying:” what youre looking for is what youre looking with”. Stop trying to be right and maybe youll see the light.

         
      • Posts: 0 arc

        Again your reasoning is flawed, and selective. You know and I know you cant ruely measure the production of players who do not hold similar roles. Who bats in front of and behind Utley and cano determine as much of what they are called to do than anything. The issue is; was Utley worth the contract? no. Could have his production been replaced last season, this season, and next season? yes. After 2008 Utley has been avg at best, and their were and are many options to replace him, unlike Ryan Howard. hes a one of a kind, Utley? a dime a dozen.

         
      • Posts: 0 Nick

        arc, believe what you want. But I suggest you expand your horizons beyond batting average so you can credibly defend yourself and back up your opinions with facts and data.

        I will add though that Utley’s 7/85 contract is one of the most team-friendly in baseball in recent years. I’ve already shown above that he’s the best second baseman in baseball this year, but here is a link that ranks players by total value added since 2007 when Utley’s contract began (1-Pujols, 2-Utley, 3-Holliday, 4-Cabrera, 5-Braun):

        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2007&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

        This might also be of interest – enjoy (based on peak, Utley has been the 2nd best second baseman of the past 50 years):

        http://www.thegoodphight.com/2012/2/2/2715299/chase-utley-and-50-years-of-second-basemen

         
    • Posts: 0 smitty

      You clearly need to go out in the playground and run around a little bit. How about some jump rope with the other little kids and work off that excess energy.

       
 
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