Gameday: Phillies (74-74) at Mets (66-81)
Posted by Amanda Orr, Wed, September 19, 2012 06:40 PM | Comments: 65
2012 Gameday, Posts
Philadelphia Phillies (74-74) at New York Mets (66-81)
Cole Hamels (15-6, 3.06) vs. Matt Harvey (3-5, 2.92)
Time: 7:10 p.m, Citi Field
TV: CSN
Weather: Mostly Cloudy, 66
Media: Twitter and Facebook
The Phillies are 4 games out of the Wild Card with 14 to play. The Phillies can only control their own destiny, as they’re back at the .500 mark.
Cole Hamels is 4-0 in his last seven starts, and has not been tacked with a loss since August 2. Hamels has struggled against the Mets throughout his career, going 5-10 with a 4.39 ERA.
Hamels will be opposed by rookie Matt Harvey, who is making his last start of the season as he reaches closer to his innings limit. Harvey has pitched well this season, including a start against the Phillies. In that outing on August 29, Harvey tossed 6.1 innings, allowing just 2 earned runs.
All eyes are on Jimmy Rollins. The shortstop is batting .333 with 5 home runs and 7 stolen bases in September. Rollins loves the attention in New York, and is a career .282 hitter against the Mets.
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GO PHILLIES!
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
Pretty nice 5 minute interval there.Nats finish off the Dodgers in Game 1, and Jimmy…well, what the heck can you say about him at this point. If you told me he could finish the year with 25 dingers, almost to any point, including recently, I’d have laughed. Hell, maybe he’s the cleanup answer.
Posted: 07:17 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 3481 Lefty
With Howard and Utley out in April and May, Jimmy did bat third quite often. It’s remarkable that he has this many HR’s yet didn’t hit his first homer until May 13th. It’s also notable that all his home runs have been hit in the lead off spot. Strange but true.
O/T I didn’t understand your reference to me earlier???
Posted: 07:29 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
Oh, I was kidding about watching baseball for 125 years, implying you are older than you are. meant to include myself in that, which I think I did so it sounded less painful.
Posted: 07:50 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 3481 Lefty
But I am 125 – I feel like it a lot lately anyway.
Posted: 08:16 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 What Wheels ?
” Even if he could have gotten there in time, he couldn’t have caught it, because he didn’t get there in time”
Posted: 07:21 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 3481 Lefty
Classic.
Posted: 07:32 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
If Jimmy beat Howard with his bat would it rub off?
Posted: 07:22 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
Unnamed relievers for 400….
“I think we have some real good pieces there,” Charlie Manuel said before Wednesday’s game against the Mets at Citi Field. “But I think we need at least one good piece. And when I talk about pieces, I mean someone that’s very, very good. First-class good. That’s what it takes to be a first-class team.”
Question: Who is Ryan Madson. Guess who had a first class team when Madson pitched here? Might be living in the past, but that’s my boy.
Posted: 07:23 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 3481 Lefty
Agree completely but can they patch things up with him and Boras? I don’t think they were very happy when Pap was suddenly signed.
Posted: 07:30 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
That part of the problem is rectified in 20 seconds. Questions above all is does Ryan insist on trying to close, and off TJ, will he get an offer for next year allowing for it. I just don’t make the alleged sloppiness of the departure that big a deal.
Yeah, Jimmy “hit” 3rd. But man, what a job. 2o homers and 20 SB since 6/1, in rarified air as only Trout’s done that.
Posted: 07:34 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
The Phillies pitcher appears to be on his game tonight.
I mean really on his game.
Against a team that he struggles against.
Terrific start for Cole.
Posted: 07:47 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
Pitcher or not, that is A Game action. On the road to 200 K’s for the year. Can’t downplay that, it’s a terrific job.
Posted: 07:58 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 teejvee
Howard’s such a joke. Why no Ruf?
Posted: 08:11 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
Trivia question of the night.
Are you sicker of the Howard discussion, or by his performance.
Answer: Tie goes to the first baseman
Posted: 08:12 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 schmenkman
Ike Davis (.537 OPS vs LHP) batting 5th. At least he’s not hitting cleanup!
Just pulling your leg Andrew.
Posted: 08:20 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 516 \"Big Ed\" Delahanty
My hat is also off to Rollins. I am amazed by the plethora of homers lately. Keep’em coming.
Posted: 08:25 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 1951 Brooks
Starting for the NY Muts tonight, Matt “CY” Harvey…
Posted: 08:34 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
That’snreal. I was hoping they’d get to Howard with men on to see if he could pick on a mistake, and get some confidence going. Tough break ror JP, not a bad guy to have up in that situation. Good thing Jimmy hit that homer.
Posted: 08:54 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 1951 Brooks
This is just a snoozer. Season is on the line and the Phils have 1 hit.
Posted: 09:05 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
Well, bullpen game starts now, with a not real cooperative outtatown scorboard lurking in the background..
Posted: 09:08 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
The whole Howard thing wouldnt bother me so much but the announcers and team and this site seem so invested in pretending hes a star or elite player.
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Posted: 09:20 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 1057 Manny
EVERYBODY SHUT UP. We need to win tonight.
Posted: 09:28 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 516 \"Big Ed\" Delahanty
I’m praying the bats come alive. Summoning the power of positivity.
Posted: 09:33 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Glutenous
The curse of the knuckleballer strikes again. Lose this one and I think that’s finally the fork. Done.
Posted: 09:52 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Ruben Amaro is dealing in the off season?
Hasnt he done enough damage already?
Posted: 09:53 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 1057 Manny
big DP. one more inning..our season is hanging by a thread now…
top of the lineup. lets go phils!!
Posted: 10:03 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 516 \"Big Ed\" Delahanty
Damn you to hell, Houston Astros!
Posted: 10:08 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 1951 Brooks
that was a terrific move, substituting Wiggy for Juan Pierre -
Posted: 10:09 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Joey Spagna
bbq-ing
I hope you like your Fillies WELL DONE. hahahaha
Posted: 10:12 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Fitting
Posted: 10:14 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Joey Spagna
Hey Stan Laurel, that was ball four. Stop scratching yourself and get yer butt on first base
Posted: 10:14 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
You are welcomed
off a lefty no less!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: 10:16 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 861 The Original Chuck P
And that’s why you stick with Howard… He does that.
Posted: 10:17 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Glutenous
YES!!! Need to close this one out!
Posted: 10:19 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ken Bland
:-)
Posted: 10:19 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 861 The Original Chuck P
Can we PLEASE give the man his due? You take the strikeouts, you take the ugly at bats against lefties because he is the only guy on this team that can strike fear in the opponent. He can change the game with one swing and he DRIVES IN RUNS.
Posted: 10:20 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 516 \"Big Ed\" Delahanty
AWESOME! Let’s close this out!!!
Posted: 10:21 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Betasigmadeltashag
AFW. Good thing Ryan is not a star and can not hit in the 7 8 or9th inning against a lefty. Yea yea it is a 1 in 100 chance he does that but that is a pretty big spot to do it you can go back in your hole now
Posted: 10:24 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Due
But lets control ourselves a little.
There would be someone else in that situation. Who could well fo the same.
but
enjoy
If they make the playoffs it will be fun
this year is already better than 2011 regardless for me
Posted: 10:25 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 861 The Original Chuck P
Pfew…
Posted: 10:29 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
Exactly Beta
And he was swinging away 3-0 to lead off the 8th inning of a ultimate game 5 last year.
You over rate him hes not a star.
But glad he got that hit and hope he gets more.
I just watch the games enough to know Colorado playoff game 2009 and now this. So ill pencil in another big hit in 2015.
Its overly simplistic for guys like you.
There are still 50 other guys who would be better and more productive
Posted: 10:30 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
winner winner chicken dinner
Posted: 10:30 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Glutenous
YESS! THANK YOU DOM BROWN!
Posted: 10:30 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Glutenous
Excellent win.
Posted: 10:31 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Betasigmadeltashag
Good 9th pap and yes can we put to end that Howard can not be clutch. 216 go ahead RBI since 2008 is that pretty good right. AFW it’s time for you tell how called that shot in June and how much you think Howard is a stud oh that’s right you are a closet Mets fan
Posted: 10:34 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Betasigmadeltashag
Oh wait I know it was the pitchers fault for throwing that pitch Ryan had nothing to do with it
Posted: 10:37 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 861 The Original Chuck P
AFW… He is our star. He’s a huge reason why those banners are hanging out in Ashburn Alley. His absence this year is why we are struggling… He is the big piece. You focus on his flaws but fail to recognize his strengths- he drives in runs. That’s his job. That’s what we missed earlier this year. You suggested a platoon of Mayberry/Wigginton- well, Wigg struck out in his at bat and Mayberry did a whole lot of nothing tonight. In fact, he GIDP’d again. You can have your Wigg-JMJ-Nix platoon. I’ll take Howard… For better and for worse. He drives me nuts with bad at bats but he crushes mistakes and drives in runs and that’s more than any slop platoon you’re throwing out there.
Posted: 10:38 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 JohnMatrix
I dont think ricky bo likes blacks
Posted: 10:40 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 861 The Original Chuck P
Haha… Ricky Bo plays to the fans. He says what the fans want to hear. I’m not a huge fan because he doesn’t really bring anything to the table.
Posted: 10:44 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Betasigmadeltashag
Still can’t give him credit you are a joke 226 go ahead RBIs in late innings in 34 years not many do that and how about game 1 last year he. Won that game too and I remember a double on a windy day in 10 in the playoffs that was a go ahead RBI so take your sellfctive memory and cheer for your mets
Posted: 10:47 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 schmenkman
Also gave them a 2-0 lead in game 2 last year.
Beta, where do you find the go ahead RBI stats?
Posted: 10:59 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Andrew from Waldorf
I even liked the photo on facebook.
You guys have fun. Illl be back tomorrow.
My opinion of him is still the same.
Although I will put this on the positive side of the analysis
and remember boys
I am as thrilled as you are that he hit that homer.
I hope he hits one every time he bats forever.
ENJOY!
Posted: 10:56 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 3481 Lefty
Wow wow wow!
Posted: 11:00 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 Ryne Duren
howard hit a lefty! howard hit a lefty! na na na na na na! good win fellas we’re still alive!
Posted: 11:07 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 frank
No the phillies are not alive.
Posted: 11:14 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 frank
The phillies are finishing the easiest end of their schedule. They will not even finish 500.remember the meg’s are one of the worst teams in baseball and they won the season series and they just lost 3 of 4 to the astros so the phillies are indeed done.
Posted: 11:21 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 sevenseas
Phils are alive in my book until they are mathematically eliminated. GO PHILS!
Posted: 11:31 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 frank
Sorry to burst your bubble. Most teams are mathematically alive. Reality is the Phil’s are an old team with aging pitchers and many bad contracts. Phil’s won one title during their window but should have won 2 or 3. Now nationals and braves will be domanant and in a couple of years the mets. Phil’s need to rebuild.
Posted: 11:45 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 schmenkman
1) you forgot to add “and have been 38-24 in the 2nd half now that they’re back at close to full strength”
2) Where does this idea that they should have won 2 or 3 titles come from? The Phillies have gotten more from their playoff appearances than most teams.
These are the past 5 playoff appearances for teams that have been successful in recent years:
Cardinals (last 8 years): 3 WS appearances, 2 WS wins
Red Sox (last 8 years): 2 WS appearances, 2 WS wins
PHILLIES (last 5 years): 2 WS appearances, 1 WS win
Giants (last 15 years): 2 WS appearances, 1 WS win
Yankees (last 6 years): 1 WS appearance, 1 WS win
Rangers (last 16 years): 2 WS appearances, 0 WS wins
Angels (last 8 years): 0 WS appearances, 0 WS wins
Dodgers (last 16 years): 0 WS appearances, 0 WS wins
Braves (last 10 years): 0 WS appearances, 0 WS wins
Posted: 11:55 PM on September 19, 2012
Posts: 0 frank
Look I am not use to responding to posts. It just seems like the phillies fans are really dreaming. Look forget about those stats. The phillies had one of the most incredible teams for a couple of years. They should have won the last two world series. Something went wrong. Maybe it was the way they were managed or maybe the passion was not there. When the Yankees had those great teams they won. So forget about stats. They should have won and now it is just false hope. They are no longer dominant.
Posted: 12:08 AM on September 20, 2012
Posts: 0 schmenkman
I don’t think there is any justification for saying they “should have won”.
If someone believes they should have won in 2010 and 2011 because they were the best team, then they must also believe they should NOT have won in 2008. Obviously the best team doesn’t always win it all, and in fact usually doesn’t win it all.
Posted: 12:21 AM on September 20, 2012
Posts: 0 frank
I hear what you are and agree to most of it. But they literally had an allstar pitching staff. It is really hard to believe that doc and cliff probably will not win it all here. One more thing. Everyone praises Jimmy rollings because he obviously now has passion. Where was it in the first half. That alone could have made a Hugh difference.
Posted: 12:38 AM on September 20, 2012
Posts: 0 schmenkman
Not to be argumentative, but how is whether someone has “passion” obvious? I think he’s straky and he’s hot right now.
Posted: 12:49 AM on September 20, 2012
Posts: 0 frank
When you play with passion youlove what you are doing and it shows. Have you ever seen how Bryce Harper plays. He plays hard and runs hard on every play. You can tell he has so much passion. Everyone is different but you can also tell when someone is going thru the motions. This team had a lot of injuries this year and I think if a leader lead with passion it could have made the difference in many games.
Posted: 01:10 AM on September 20, 2012
Posts: 0 schmenkman
No offense, but I think that’s a bunch of cr@p. I don’t see any difference in his demeanor. I think the passion was always there, but when you’re not hitting well, if you’re not the type who slams a helmet, it looks like you’re not trying and don’t care.
Posted: 05:02 AM on September 20, 2012