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Hamels Picks Up 17th Win, Phillies Down Marlins

Posted by Pat Gallen, Sun, September 30, 2012 04:21 PM | Comments: 30
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What a season for Cole Hamels.

He was clearly one of the few bright spots for the entirety of the year in Philadelphia, and that continued today as he fanned eight over seven innings in the Phillies 4-1 win. The victory gave him 17 on the season, a new career high. And with those eight strikeouts, he reaches 216 for the season, also a new high.

It’s been a season of lows for a Phillies team scratching to stay above the .500 mark, but Hamels has been a constant bright spot. Can you imagine if the Phillies had not signed him at midseason? Phillies fans would be freaking out as the season comes to a close. At least the fans can rest easy that he’ll be here a long time.

Carlos Ruiz had three hits and knocked in his 68th run of the season. Hamels was the MVP of the pitchers, Ruiz obviously the MVP on the offensive side.

Domonic Brown didn’t have any hits, but he did knock in a run and showed off his arm as he gunned down Giancarlo Stanton at home plate.

Now the question becomes, can the Phillies finish the season over .500 as they play the final three games in Washington.

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  • Posts: 0 BART SHART

    Great game. We won. One more victory and we are guaranteed a 500 season. Three more wins would be nicer. GO PHILS !!!

     
  • Posts: 0 phil

    My friend and I made a bet in May involving rare brewery only released beers that the Phillies would finish above .500. He claimed they wouldn’t. I sure hope they do so I can not only keep my beer but so that I can get his to add to my cellar collection!

     
    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      You know how those things go. They’ll finish 81-81. And nobody’s happy. Or sad, I guess, but to come back from June, and 14 under, that’d be a cool bet to win. 82-80 sure seems doable. Good luck!

       
  • Posts: 0 Bryan

    Was at the game in Miami today; still more Phils fans at a Marlins game than Marlins fans, it seems.

    While it was great to see Hamels throw a fantastic game, it was equally awesome to see the a transition into the next Phils generation, in the guise of Brown and Ruf. I hope they get their shots in 2013, and impress early and often.

    Also glad to see my last live game of the season with Chooch behind the plate.

     
  • Posts: 0 Dave P

    I hope they do finish above .500. Even better? Phils sweep nats, and braves sweep out their series. I can take the braves winning the division but I don’t need Harper and co. thinking they are the new hotness.

     
  • Posts: 556 Bruce

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    Nice win for the Phillies and Hamels is clearly the “ace” of the rotation and for years to come (if he stays healthy).

    As others here mentioned, the Phillies are finishing the season on a positive note (adding another winning month with September). The team need one win in the final three-game series at Washington to finish at least .500 for the 10th straight season.

    It’s quite an accomplishment considering all the serious injuries that derailed their momentum early on in the season and losing two productive regulars in the OF (Pence and Victorino) on July 31st when Amaro decided on “salary dumping”. On that day, July 31st, the Phillies looked lost with a 45-57 record and going nowhere. The team was graced with the good fortune of having key reserves in Frandsen and Kravitz called up and made surprising contributions. Plus the young arms from the minors that were a work in progress and steadily made improvements in the bullpen (especially Horst and Aumont). And of course, with the return of Utley and Howard to the lineup, one can see the team started to play winning basball. I should mentionj Ruiz and Rollins with their bat and glove ,were the most valuable players in the lineup.

    So as fans, we have much to look forward to next season. I do believe Amaro will keep his word that he intend to reload..not rebuilt the team during the off season. He sees only a few possible changes (additions) in finding a quality 8th inning reliever; a righthanded bat in the OF; and possibly to fill the 3rd base position.

    I think Ruf could be that righthanded bat in the OF depending on how he fares during spring training. Chances are he will be a platoon player. Dominic Brown may be a good trade bait for the needed 3rd baseman while his perceived value is still high by other teams. Of course, there is a possibility that Frandsen can be that everyday 3rd baseman or even the no hit- good field Galvis (provided he is tested drug free). The off season will be very interesting.

     
    • Posts: 2005 Brooks

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      Bruce, the Phils dismal showing was due to an accumulation of bad offense, bad pitching, it was the ‘perfect storm’ if you would for a let down. Aside from the injuries, the pitching was at times putrid – especially the bullpen as they could not shut down the opposition. Then the performances of some of the Phils key position players was disappointing and some had what I’m sure they would call their career worst seasons at the plate.

      I am really interested in how PN grades the performances of the individuals this year.

       
  • Posts: 5398 Lefty

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    I know that the modern day analyst’s consider wins and losses by a pitcher as complete luck and not a true indicator of how good a pitcher is. I agree with them, and clearly see the rationale there.

    But it is still cool for us old guys to see our pitchers do well in that department anyway. Hamels 17-6 W-L record right now is better than:
    Chris Sale
    Matt Cain
    Yu Darvish
    Gallardo
    Zach Greinke
    And lest we forget, some guy named Justin Verlander.

    This is no put down of Cliff Lee whose underlying season stats show clear top ten superiority. IMO – his record this year was just one of those baseball oddities that occur from time to time.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Won-loss records are somewhat a matter of luck, but any analyst who doesn’t look at that aspect of a starting pitcher has his head jammed firmly in a place where he probably can’t read any other stats, either.

      It jhas happened that sometimes a guy on a lousy offensive team or one that can’t field doesn’t get the wins he deserves, and sometimes a dud pitcher is helped tremendously by an offensive machine. These things do average out a bit, though, and generally the guys with the best peripheral stats will end up as the biggest winners. Koufax won quite a few games with the non-scoring Dodgers, for instance, and Carlton won 27 games for a team that managed a grand total of 59 wins. You wouldn’t even have to look at WHIP or Swing-and-Miss %, or Park Adjusted Anything to know that those guys had something special going.

       
      • Posts: 5398 Lefty

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        Yup. Couldn’t agree more.
        In that general era, I always thought the poster boy for great pitchers with so so W-L records was the great Nolan Ryan.

        Over 27 years, he only had winning W-L records 16 times, a few of which were by only 1 or 2 wins. And lifetime he was only 32 games over .500- in 807 games.

        But no one needed advanced stats to know that you better fear him.

        So where did this analyst have his head jammed? Never mind, I don’t really want to know!

         
  • Posts: 0 lou possehl

    Any year you can, over 162 games, throw three or four top-flight starters at the opposition and have them backed up by a first-rate closer – which we can do – you immediately stamp yourself as a team with playoff possibilities. Even a lineup loaded with the Martinezes and Mendozas of the world will win games by scoring 1,2 or 3 runs, and our problems are more associated with consistency and the ever-elusive right-handed bat than they are with BA.

    Through past and perhaps-pending outright releases of ageing, high-salaried players, the front office can set itself up to reload … without messing around, trade-wise, with Hamels-Lee-Halladay-Worley-Kendrick.

    (Having said all of this, perhaps one of the above-named goes in a major deal, so long as his name does not begin with “COLE”.)

    While Chase Utley may offer us a temporary fix at one position or another, we still need to rejuvenate the infield, and add to an inconsistent offense. (Galvis addresses one of these “fixes”, but certainly not the other.) In this regard, with the pleasant surprises offered by Frandsen and a young guy named Darin, we may have come up with a couple of diamonds in the Ruf.

    (It took me 208 words to lead up to that punch line.)

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      The position that Utley will offer us a “temporary fix” for will be second base, since it’s been announced the 3rd base experiment is (thankfully) over.

      We get the best second baseman in the game today (when he’s on the field) as the temporary fix. Not bad.

       
      • Posts: 0 lou possehl

        The Utley fix is indeed temporary because even if Utley’s knees happily carry him through a full season – a proposition filled with obvious risk – it provides a solution at 2B for 2013 only. What happens beyond that? Unless we go all-in with a “this is our year” approach (which is what 2011 was supposedly about, and we can see how that worked for us), then any positional “fix” that doesn’t address the next 2-3 years at a minimum is stopgap only.

        As to Utley being “the best 2B in the game today” … well, the hated Yankees have this guy – I think his name is Cano.

         
      • Posts: 877 schmenkman

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        2013 and how much (and well) Utley plays will help determine whether he’s re-signed. I think it’s a little early to assume he won’t be.

        As for Cano, I’ve heard of him :-)

        I postd this last week. I’d be happy to update the stats if you like, but for now, this is why Utley is as good or better:
        —-
        - Cano has the higher slugging percentage (.522) and OPS (.887)
        - However Cano has a lower OBP (.365)
        - Overall, Cano has a slight advanage in overall hitting, using the comprehensive hitting stat wOBA, which is explained here (http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/offense/woba/):
        Cano .375 wOBA, Utley .359
        - Cano is doing better than usual defensively, but Utley’s defense is still better than Cano’s this year using advanced fielding stats.
        - Utley has been the much better baserunner as usual.

        The stat that puts all this together is Wins Above Replacement, and these are the leaders for the year:
        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=2b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=200&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

        1. Cano 6.0 WAR in 151 games
        ….
        9. Utley 3.1 WAR in 74 games

        Obviously Utley has only played half the season and that’s a real advantage for Cano — he’s been on the field all year and the Yankees haven’t had to fill in with a Galvis type.

        But for the time that he’s actually been on the field, no second baseman in the game has been better than Utley this year.

        WAR per 162 games:
        1. Utley 6.8
        2. Cano 6.4
        3. Hill 6.1

         
      • Posts: 0 lou possehl

        Shmenkman, you truly are the stat man.

         
  • Posts: 1114 betasigmadeltashag

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    Was fun to watch Cole pitch like the ace he is last night.
    My take on the what the phillies have shown is that all though he is not a kid I think Frandzen can hit, and maybe hit .300 in a full season and give you average defense at third base, I do not think he is up to Poly or Feliz defensivly, but I do think he can give you Poly like numbers at the plate. Maybe 5-10 HRs and a bunch of doubles. I like the Ruff kid but I am not sure that 8-10 games and even spring training is going to tell us if he can be a major league hitter, I think he looked ok in RF but again very small sample and I am not sure spring training is going to prove one way or the other. I also do not know what you do with Galvis, can he play the utility infield roll, or do you move Frandsen to that Roll and assume Freddie can play third, I know he is the air apperant to JRoll but that is two years at least down the Road. Is Frandsen viable trade bait, can Freddie bring anything and do you sacrifice Freddie and hope JRoll can stay healthly for another year or two? I really think this off season will be fun, I also do not think there will be any answers until the May for sure

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Ruben said recently there wasn’t a top priority for the offseason. The list of priorities is pretty clear, and as a result, generally agreed on by anyone with eyes. But I do think the club will prioritize one issue. Unless Ryne Sandberg lands an MLB manager’s job, or possibly some sort of esteemed coaching gig, the Phils have a chance to retain him in the organization for another year. Charlie’s deal expires next year, and it would seem reasonable to expect him to move into an advisory type gig as he approaches or hits 70. People seem quick to praise Sandberg either out of sympathy for not nailing a job yet, or because he’s popular because of the backup QB syndrome. Personally, I know next to zilch about how he’d do as a manager, my sense is well, but the the thing that gives me the most confidence in his ability to do well is Dallas Green saying a couple or few weeks back that he was scared to death the club was gonna lose him again. So I think the Phils will prioritize what to do with Sandberg, and we may see some hint that he’s going to manage the Phils as early as ’14.

     
    • Posts: 0 Devin

      Just some perspective about Sandberg: Lehigh Valley had never had a winning season before Sandberg came to the team. His first season they go to the championship, his second season they miss the playoffs (on the last day of the season) but finish over .500 again. He turned a losing team into a winning team purely by being there.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        I can’t agree LESS. Lehigh Valley has been a Phils affiliate for fewer than ten years, and minor league teams change their players about as often as a mother changes her newborn’s diapers. I’ll grant that The IronPigs have begun to win, but how much of that can be attributed to Sandburg and how much to different and maybe better players is a matter of debate.

        I’d look more at how he handles player’s personalities and his on-field strategies to assess his abilities, rather than won-loss records. The good thing is that so far, most baseball people give him high marks in those areas.

         
      • Posts: 0 Devin

        You’re arguing my point for me, George. That high turnover rate of players is the reason managing at AAA is arguably more difficult than managing in the majors, where you have the same team for the most part from year to year. It takes a very good skipper to navigate those choppy waters on ANY AAA team. Lehigh Valleys record with Ryne at the helm is over .500, and without him is well under .500. Lehigh Valley this year finished with a winning record in spite of the big league teams decimation by injuries. Pretty much all of LHV’s reliable players spent some time in the majors and that constant change didn’t cause Sandberg to skip a beat. That is very impressive.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Not sure that alone would prove Ryno’s value, but it would take some research to determine whether turnover at LV was more, about the same, or less than other I.L. Teams.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        You have misinterpreted my comment. Player personell does change, but what I am saying is that the general level of talent is what changes, not specific players. Even major league managers have to juggle their players because of injuries and needed rest. But from year to year, the ML team remains pretty close to the same level of ability or it slips or gains gradually, whereas in the minors, from year to year the team’s basic talent level can change considerably.

        The Phils’ lower level teams had winning records before Lehigh Valley did. Many of those winning players have since moved up a level or two. Doesn’t it seem at least plausible, then, that Sandburg may have benefited some by having those better players?

        I’m not denigrating Sandburg at all. What I am saying is that W-L records are not the ultimate concern of a minor league team, and should not be the ultimate standard on which anyone should evaluate a AAA manager.

         
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Areya kidding me? Well, it’s something different to watch at least.

    1. Kevin Frandsen (R) 3B

    2. John Mayberry (R) CF

    3. Chase Utley (L) 2B

    4. Carlos Ruiz (R) C

    5. Ty Wigginton (R) 1B

    6. Domonic Brown (L) RF

    7. Darin Ruf (R) LF

    8. Michael Martinez (S) SS

    9. Kyle Kendrick (R) P

     
  • Posts: 0 Cs

    It’s not terrible knowing that Ryan and Jimmy are not avail.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Agreed, since they’re out of it and no longer need great play at short or big hits with runners in scoring position.

       
  • Posts: 0 bigdaddy

    Rumor is that if Sandberg is not hired by another team, he will be the Bench Coach next season

     
  • Posts: 0 chuck schreiber

    Do we have anyone else that can play SS other than Martinez?? Christ he’s a dead out and than the pitcher behind him….

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      With so few games left, none of them meaningful, I can’t really see that using Martinez matters much. And at least there’s always a better hitter waiting on deck.

      If there were more games, I’d maybe try Wigginton at short, because he sure can’t handle third base.

       
      • Posts: 877 schmenkman

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        Amazingly, the Orioles used Wigginton as a late-inning replacement at short in 9 games in 2009.

         
      • Posts: 877 schmenkman

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        (another strange but true note: the position that Laynce Nix has played the most in the majors is… Center Field)

         
 
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