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Ramirez Designated For Assignment

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Tue, January 29, 2013 04:28 PM | Comments: 12
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http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/30433.png&w=350&h=254In order to make room on the 40-man roster for the returning Chad Durbin, J.C. Ramirez was designated for assignment. Ramirez, acquired in the trade that sent Cliff Lee to Seattle in December 2009, turned 24 this past August. After his K/9 IP fell below seven (5.6) for the first time in his career at Double-A Reading in 2011, Ramirez’s K totals bounced back in a relief role at Reading and Lehigh Valley in 2012 (7 K/9 IP).

In 2012, Ramirez pitched 45 innings in relief, lowering his hits/9 IP and HR/9 IP, while increasing his K-rate but saw his BB/9 IP increase by .7. Ramirez seemed to have found a niche as a reliever last season, with his successes coming on his low 90′s fastball and his bread-and-butter curve. Now, with a bullpen full of young players and veterans alike, Ramirez is without a role and the most initially promising prospects the Phillies acquired in the initial Lee trade may soon end up on a new team who is willing to take a flyer.

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  • Posts: 0 CS

    That’s a shame. Somehow the guy runs out of options before ever hitting the majors may tell you a bit about him. Also, says a lot about what a “prospect” is and turns out to be.

     
    • Posts: 0 William Rennick

      They needed room on the 40 man roster…I don’t think that has anything to do with options.

       
  • Posts: 298 Jay Floyd

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    He didn’t perform well in the VZ League this offseason (12+ ERA in 12 games) and has only proved to be sharp occasional, without consitency since the Lee trade.

    I always liked JC personally, as he is smart, confident and wanted to succeed on the field, but that desire never translated well into production with the Phillies.

     
  • Posts: 0 Double Trouble Del

    The trade that keeps on giving!

     
    • Posts: 0 Double Trouble Del

      The magnitude of the front office’s failure in this trade is only equalled (probaby exceeded) by the Cleveland front office’s failure in the trade that sent Lee to the Phillies.

       
      • Posts: 0 George

        Equaled or exceeded by Cleveland. Sounds like proof that any GM can make bad trades, and Amaro is no exception. At least he wasn’t responsible for sending two extremely useful young pitchers to Chicago for Freddy Garcia, or for replacing Grover Alexander with “Pickle” Dilhoefer. Maybe it’s time people got off Amaro’s back a little.

         
      • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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        Forget it, George. The majority of this commentariat knows nothing except how to find fault with just about everything he does. I signed on, checked this thread and just knew that in 6 measly comments I would find criticism once again of “The Trade.”

         
      • Posts: 0 Double Trouble Del

        George and Chuck, my point was not to single out RAJ because I would have stated it outright. The Lee to Seattle trade was an organizational failure- a failure to identify talent. RAJ can’t possibly know every minor league player in another organization’s system- that was the job of his scouting staff and his personnel advisors ie Scott Proefrock, et al. It was a failure nonetheless because the stated reason for the Lee trade at the time was to re-stock the minor league system.

         
      • Posts: 1135 EricL

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        Chuck, nobody finds fault with Amaro’s first Cliff Lee trade. Few people have any problems with his acquisition of Roy Halladay. His signing of Jimmy Rollins on the cheap was also a good move, as was his signing of Placido Polanco.

        There are lots of things that he’s done that people give him credit for. Unfortunately, they’re overshadowed by the completely awful, mind-bogglingly stupid things he’s done, like the Howard contract, the acquisition of Hunter Pence, and the 2nd Cliff Lee trade.

        People criticize the Cliff Lee trade of the winter of 09-10 because it was a bad trade, not because of any personal feelings about Ruben Amaro or anyone else. It’s not surprising that you’d find criticisms of that trade in a thread which is about the outright release of one of the players involved in that terrible trade, since, you know, that’s an integral piece of the story of JC Ramirez.

         
      • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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        Yeah, but he couldn’t have known that at the time. When he made the trade I’m sure he realized that not all of these three guys would succeed at the big league level. So far, Aumont looks like the only one but who knows about Gillies. Yes, in retrospect, it was a bad trade….but when he made it he certainly wasn’t thinking it would turn out that way. And that’s the way it turns out sometimes. Actually, for me, the jury’s really still out on the trade. Because i really don’t think we’ve seen anything close to the full potential of Aumont yet.

        I’m not gonna get into the Howard extension and the Hunter Pence thing because this thread is about Ramirez in relation to Cliff Lee.

         
      • Posts: 1135 EricL

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        There were plenty of people who thought it was a dumb idea at the time, and the Phillies all but admitted it when they were forced to trade more young talent for Oswalt later that summer. If they hadn’t made that Lee trade they very likely don’t have to make another move to bolster their pitching.

        So there were people with concerns about the deal at the time, not only the players involved but in making the trade at all.

        The only reason I brought up those other guys is because you were saying nobody give Amaro credit for anything and we’re always looking for a way to criticize him, and that’s just not true.

         
      • Posts: 0 William Rennick

        They could have had Lee for 2010 at well under market value ($9 million) and let him walk at the end of the year. They would have received TWO high draft picks in that scenario, and wouldn’t have had to surrender Anthony Gose and Jonathan Villar in return for 220 innings of Roy Oswalt at the trade deadline. Not to mention that the silly three-year Joe Blanton contract probably wouldn’t have been offered if Lee was kept in 2010.

        I know that we’re not allowed to say anything even slightly negative about RAJ, but that entire sequence of events was borderline comical – especially since Amaro then brought back Lee in 2011 (losing another first round draft pick in the process).

         
 
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