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Spring Training Gameday 2013: Phillies v. Twins

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Thu, March 07, 2013 12:00 PM | Comments: 49
2013 Spring Training

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8dTS1-vDzPI/SwHKnuvtKBI/AAAAAAAAAOs/BQlGFJYUi9k/s1600/Minnesota+Twins+primary+logo.pngMinnesota Twins vs Philadelphia Phillies

Time: 1:05 pm

Brighthouse FieldClearwater, FL

Weather: 63, Clear

TV: The Comcast Network

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Cliff Lee takes the hill against the Twins today. Darin Ruf, who may see some time in Triple-A according to Ruben Amaro Jr. if he is not ready for the Majors, is in the line-up, hitting seventh as the DH.

Line-Up

1. Revere – CF

2. Galvis – SS

3. Utley – 2B

4. Howard – 1B

5. Young – 3B

6. Brown – LF

7. Ruf– DH

8. Mayberry – RF

9. Kratz– C

Go Phillies!

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Ian's athletic achievements include getting stuffed by NBA center Aaron Gray in high school and hitting .179 over four years for NYU against D-III, NAIA, JuCo, and NCBA schools. Ian hopes his athletic successes will help him achieve his dream of becoming the underground Bob Uecker.

 
 
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Okay, here’s the deal on today’s game. They may be Twins, but this Minniehaha split squad can’t be as good as the other split. Their lineup in this one is a who’s who in baseball trivia. Half the players starting are not even known by their parents or fellow siblings.

    Besides that, this Twinkie entry, outstanding resume since leaving Washington or not, is gonna probably make people laugh when they play the Astros this summer, and people are left to address Uncle Selig’s mid year address about what great shape the game’s in.

    I mean, spring or not, PLEASE don’t leave us to rationalize how the Fightins lost this one.

    Pretty please.

     
    • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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      Best not give any ammunition to Arc. He may take your comments and run with them. Any time there’s even a hint that they might lose he’s gonna launch into some diatribe about how the Phillies suck, that Ruben is the worst GM ever and that the season’s over before it even starts.

       
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        Two pitches in, Cliff seems to have pursued that course. Geez.

         
      • Posts: 0 Gman7

        Imagine Arc being a Phillies fan through the 60′s and early 70′s..Amaro and Gillick have been tremendous..

         
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        Amaro has not been tremendous. More like superlative, or unfreakingreal.

        Any GM that brought in Pedro, and Sweeney is better than tremendous.

        I can’t even begin to tell you how much I loved Sweeney. Glad he filled out his baseball card saying PHILA, NL.

        66 pitch day for Cliff. We are gettingcloser to OPENING DAY.

         
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    I’m kind of amazed that what must be two weeks back, Charlie hit Utley 2nd, and RyHo 4th, and it prompted a lot of discussion like he’dat least experiment with it.

    I don’t think it’s happened one time since, including today. Manager’s perrogative, I guess, but I thought we’d see it some.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    I didn’t think Ruf had a particularly great at bat there, but maybe the 2 run double he looped helps him. Beats the hecl out of striking out from 3-0, and 20,000 people thinking AAA. I’d like to at least see him play well for a stretch so this spring isn’t just a bad memory if he does get sent back down.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Check it out. 18 years ago today, the Veteran’s Commiitte named His Whiteness to be enshrined in the Hall. That’s good stuff. That was a fun Hall Day with Whitey and Schmidt in the same year.

    And the Phils celebrate by scoring 4 to go up, 5-1.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Mike Young and the usual Dom Brown kicking it for the 5-6 spots today. Young sure seems to be getting comfty as time goes. Now, the Ruf one.

     
    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      progree. hard hit grounder through, ribbiie and it’s 5-6-7 kicking ass now.

      Darin is 2-2, 3 ribs.

      Hope this comes down to as we paraphrase Vic’s old line…”see grapefruit, hit grapefruit.”

      A good at bat next time would be really sweet. Swing only at strikes, and hit it hard.

       
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Tough day for the Twins franchise. Losing here, 6-2, and the split squad trails Beantown, 8-love.

    Not as bad as the Phils 5-6-7 spots in the lineup. Those boys are 6 for 6 today. And they say baseball is about 3-4-5.

     
    • Posts: 0 G7

      Ruf may be starting to relax.

       
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    So this Aaron Hicks has a couple homers for the Minnie club today. 23 year old 5 year minor league vet now with some nice numbers (very nice, actually) at finally Double A last year. Never a top rated prospect, but always visible on the charts, I wonder what the Phils preception of him is. The Twins aren’t rushing him, but still, last year was good.

    What I’m driving at is I wonder if they tried to steal him in the Revere deal. I mean they gave up Worley AND May. Getting a minor league throw in, if they liked him, and the Twins were willing might have been nice.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      Agree, would have been nice, but he’s listed as a top 3 prospect for the Twins on many lists, and apparently their CF of the future, so the Twins may have shot that down pretty quickly.

       
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        yeah, here’s a Rosenthal tweet I just read..

        can’t find it, but the things Gardy likes about him are his even demeanor, and he improves defense up the middle was pretty much it.

        I don’t know about even demeanor. If I smacked Cliff Lee’s 2nd pitch of the game over the wall, wind or not, I’d exit even demeanor stage left fast.

         
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        My scouting abilities tell me Hicks could play for Team Dominicana.

        And not hit 8th.

        Geez, 3 dingers now. Not bad. And makes Cliff’s day look better.

         
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Mini Mart just came in to play center.

    Long as I live, I will vividly remember Mini having one of his 3 outstanding MLB games (No sarcasm, you could look it up) a couple years back, and somehow Chase was on the post game show and called Mini, and I quote, “a very talented player.”

    I get the strongest union in the world, and how some of these guys playing with the press, like Doc telling these guys yesterday he wasn’t throwing at anyone, but I decided on the spot, if Chase said THAT, little as Chase says, I’m always gonna leav an open space in my mind thinking maybe better is yet to come.

    I’m still waiting.

    But I still love Chase.

     
    • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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      I swear…MiniMart has pictures. Of someone. Somewhere.

       
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Even in the dog days of spring training, we see the possibility of history upon us on any given day, truly the charm of baseball.

    Tuesday, Team Dominicana threatened to set a record of most hits in a game, and now, Hicks’s 3 homer game cues me to wonder if any teamhas ever had a guy smash 3 long ones, and his team lost.

    There have been plenty of 3 homer games in history, but it’s hard to imagine a team losing when a guy hits 3.

    We’ll see if this 6-5 lead holds, or at least which team has more runs. The all important spring training momentum factor seems to side with the Twinkies as they try to escape that at best rare dubious honor.

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      On 7/6/1986, Bob Horner hit 4 home runs. The Braves lost 11-8.

      There have been 84 games (since 1916, when the data starts) where a player hit 3 home runs and his team loses.

      There have been 413 games where the 3-HR player’s team wins, so obviously that’s a pretty good winning percentage (.831).

       
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        I’d have never guessed there were as many as almost 500 games with 3 home run performances. But if Bill Madlock can do it (I think that was against the Phils, and I’m not disrepecting him, I kow what a great hitter he was), it’s obviously possible.

        Thanks for the research.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        I was also surprised it was that common. It was accomplished 10 times in 2012 alone, including by Evan Longoria and Dan Johnson on the last day of the season.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        i.e. by BOTH Longoria (Rays) and Johnson (White Sox) on the same day, October 3rd 2012.

         
      • Posts: 120 Dave P

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        Schmenks, please tell me where you come up with all of the stats. I need to know so I can satisfy my own baseball curiosities from time to time.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Dave, I use two main sources, fangraphs.com, and baseball-reference.com.

        This kind of game-level stuff is from the play index section of baseball-reference.com, which requires a subscription. I searched but couldn’t find another list of 3-HR hitters on the internet, but one might exist somewhere.

         
  • Posts: 0 Blaine Baxter

    When did PN turn into The Bland Blog?

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Lay off of Bland; at least he’s interested enough in the Phils to comment. I see plenty of other names here, besides. He’s not saying the same thing over and over again like some fans, nor does he have a rotten attitude like that guy whose name starts with “a” and ends with c,” with an “r” somewhere in between.

       
      • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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        Oh, I presume you’re referring to Arc de Defaite ??

         
      • Avatar of "Big Ed" Delahanty

        I agree with George. I do not have access tot hear games visually or via radio right now, so Ken’s play-by-play really helps me follow what is happening. Plus, he is better than Wheeler and Sarge! Lol.

         
  • Posts: 0 Righteous Robert

    Pennsylvania MLB Trivia:

    The only Two MLB Players to hit 4 consecutive Homers Twice in their Lifetime.
    The others only did it Once like guys named Ruth.

    Reparations for Vietnam Vets
    Baltimore Bob

     
    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      You have to mean in consecutive games, in which case Reggie, if we count post season is one. And that’s assuming he did it twice. I remember the easy time to remember he did it.

      I don’t recall any of the celebrated few to hit 4 in a game (Schmidt, Willie, Josh last year and I guess 1 or 2 others) hitting 4 straight a second time.

      Why do I think Joe Adcock hit 4 in a game, and some obscire name like that would be the answer. Joe wasn’t exactly obscure, but he wasn’t exactly in that class.

       
      • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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        I’m sort of thinking Frank Robinson might have done it when he was with the Orioles in the late 60s. Gonna look it up.

         
  • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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    Well, F Robby DIDN’T but here’s a list of who did. Including the aforementioned Chuck Klein (in a extra inning contest, though)..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_hitters_with_four_home_runs_in_one_game

     
    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      THat list offers multiple amazing thinhgs like career accomplishments versus that single game performance, but to me, the most amazing thing is the 2 guys doing it before 1900. When you think about how low homer totals were before Ruth, 4 in 1 game is incredible/

       
      • Posts: 2987 Chuck A.

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        Yes, and I didn’t realize that Hamilton did it last year. Where the hell was I ??!!

         
      • Posts: 5143 Lefty

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        A good friend invited me to go to that Hamilton game at Camden yards, and I had to work. I was so p—-ssed off afterwards.

         
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        “A good friend invited me to go to that Hamilton game at Camden yards, and I had to work. I was so p—-ssed off afterwards.”

        Here’s one to think about…say you had a similar situation with the game where Texas went into Baltimore I guess 2 years ago now (maybe longer) and scored 30 runs. You know, a friend asked you to go, and you passed.

        Given a time machine, which game would be more enticing to go back to and witness live?

        I believe the 30 run game was part of a doubleheader, which may affect the choice, if it indeed was.

        My own list of games I almost went to but wimped out on is sick. It includes Eakes 20, Dallas 7 NFC title game, 1980. Didn’t feel like dealing with 0 degree weather.

        Had a 20 diollar ticket to MSG in the rafters for Ali-Frazier I, and decided I didn’t wanna sit through a fight I couldn’t decide who to root for cause I loved both champs.

        Passed on an MLB all-star game (1994) because 110 degrees was too hot for my tastes.

        Fortunately, I’ve seen some great games in person that softens the stupidity of passing on those chances. But I still look up whenever I hear anyone say idiot, thinking they be calling me.

         
      • Posts: 5143 Lefty

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        You’re not an idiot for not going to the Eagles NFC title win when you had the chance, you’re a wimp! :-)

        That’s okay, I have an edict of my own. I play golf in the low 70′s, if it gets any colder than that I don’t play. Batum -tuss!

        The 4 home run game is rare enough that I think that would be the choice. – Now let’s qualify that by saying that if it were the Phillies and THEY scored 30 runs, then there is no choice, I’d be kickin my butt for the rest of my life for skipping out on that. BTW I heard the Schmidt 4 homer game against the Cubs on radio.

         
  • Posts: 0 matt

    when the hell are the phills gunna release mini mart, they dont need him at all. I will be super pissed if he makes the team and freddy is waiting away in AAA. besides him they need to release Zack Miner leaguer, he throwing up beach balls of the other teams to hit. Ruin tommorrow jr has some issue if he keeps these guys. The problem i see with the phillies is rube and charlie have no faith in the rookies. They would rather c- class vets that are washed up or were never good to begin with… Freaking mini mart would be released from any other team in baseball.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      No faith in rookies? That’s garbage. Last year alone, almost the entire bullpen was rookies, Galvis was a rookie, and I think Kratz was one, too. The year before, there was Worley, and there’s also J.A. Happ to consider. Yes, and believe it or not, MiniMart also spent his rookie year with the Phils. Manuel had enough faith in Kendrick back in 2007 to even give him a playoff start. The Phils have even used rookies who had been given up on by other teams, like a very popular 33 year old catcher they had a few years back. And they haven’t given up yet on others who are barely past being rookies, like Dom Brown and John Mayberry, which should indicate to anyone that they do, indeed, give rookies a chance.

      It’s a good thing to have those “c- class vets,” as you so rudely call them, just in case those rookies they put some early faith in turn out to be scrubs. There’s not a team around that doesn’t have that type of player for organizational depth, or “just-in-case.” To not have a Martinez or a Minor could leave a team in misery. The Yanks right now must be wondering who’s going to fill in for ARod, Texiera, and Granderson. Chances are it’ll be a bunch of “c- class vets,” because they’re not going to get anyone who’s really good to play for a mere 6-10 weeks.

       
  • Posts: 0 matt

    guys what other great nic names do you have for these c class player or any other players on the team.. I still think Ruin tomorrow Jr is my favorite mini mart is also good. I also like special k for kk..

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt

    George let me ask you this would you rather see mini mart and yuniesky beta court make the team over Freddy glamis or Kevin frandsen? How about Humberto Quintero over tommy Joseph? Let me point out some failures from last year, chad qualms, when they could have had diekman up earlier. Would you want brain Sanchez back? How about the dead wood of brain Schneider, over kratz, like last year. The point you made about rookies was only a second half thing, yes they brought up those rookies in the second half after it was too late to make a difference. They started off the year with those c class players and it cost them. I’d tell you I’d rather not see chad Durban over Philippe amount,or Tyler Floyd. How about rodrigo Lopez over mike stutes? Those c class player are costing a rookie a slot. I really hope they learned something from the first half of last year and don’t make the same mistake this year. They have some really great rookies I just hope they don’t waist away in triple a. You ever think that Dom brown didn’t progress because he was so jerked around. It’s no wonder he’s doing good this year because he now knows he has a place to play without being jerked around. My point is these rookies have to truly fight for a spot, which makes them press hard to beat out a c class vet. The phillies need depth but there’s no depth when they relie on the likes of mini mart. A .175 hitter.

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      Some of the names you’ve mentioned (like Diekman) clearly weren’t ready at the beginning of last season. Stutes was injured. Schneider was a backup catcher who did his job decently, but got injured; he was NOT a bad player. Kratz, on the other hand, wasn’t even a “c-class” option when Schneider signed; he was minor league filler. This year, Joseph isn’t ready, and Frandsen is no rookie, but is one of those “c- class” guys you’ve complained about. Cloyd is still a question mark given the results of his Sept. call-up, and Lopez could, indeed, be more useful. And Brown was given a shot but was injured many times, couldn’t cut it right off, and whether he was misused is debatable. And yes, these rookies DO have to fight for a spot; there’s rarely been a rookie who didn’t. Would they develop any faster or play any better if they had a guaranteed spot? Even Mickey Mantle was sent down early in his career.

      You can’t just stock a team with unproven talent without having some of those “c- class” players around for when a reliever is walking too many batters, like Diekman, or misplaying fly balls like Ruf, or in past years, Brown. They may not be the best options, but they’re needed ones.

       
      • Posts: 0 Matt

        My biggest concern is thess rookies are like 26 years old before Philly brings them up. Teams like the giants and the ants don’t wait that long. If Harper was a Philly he’d still be in aaa, how about buster posy? I’d at least give tommy Joseph a shot till chooch ges back.

         
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Harper is obviously an unusual case since players like that come up very rarely, for any team.

        And if the Phillies follow the Buster Posey plan, then Joseph shouldn’t be playing at CBP before July 2014, when he turns 23, other than a September call-up this year. And Joseph is not regarded as highly as Posey was, from what I recall.

         
  • Posts: 0 Matt

    Dumb ass iPad I ment chad qualls and Tyler cloyd. Garbage iPad spelling errors

     
  • Posts: 0 Matt

    Anyway. How about some fun nic names? Come on guys I know you have some lets hear them! How about Pete bore Orr. Or Charlie throw away the Manuel. Can’t really change bastardo when he gets 3 men on base in the 8th inning, he’s a bastard then.

     
    • Posts: 0 G7

      Or at least he’s an Inglorious bastardo then.

       
  • Posts: 0 matt

    i always liked bombs away blanton, or homerun herndon. im glad they are gone.

     
 
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