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Roundtable: Besides Brown, Which Player Has Impressed Most This Spring?

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Thu, March 14, 2013 08:00 AM | Comments: 25
Writer's Roundtable

Ben Revere has been everything the Phillies had hoped he’d be and more halfway through Spring Training. Photo AP

Our weekly Writers’s Roundtable is back and this time the topic comes from Don M.: Dom Brown has been far and away the best Phillies player this Spring by any measure. Other than Brown, who has impressed you the most this Spring?

Don McGettigan:  Perhaps because it’s potentially the year in Philadelphia for Carlos Ruiz, I was very impressed with what Tommy Joseph was able to do in the Grapefruit League (hitting .462, with a home run and two doubles in 13 at-bats) before being optioned to the minors.  Joseph also earned the praise of Roy Halladay  “He was very on top of things and aware of what was going on in games and situations. That’s what you want to see.”

Ian Riccaboni: Ben Revere has been as advertised for the Phillies. Despite an 0-fer last night, Revere is hitting .340, has four steals, and is playing great defense. If Brown wasn’t having such a great Spring, there’d be a lot more folks excited about the Phils speedy center fielder.

Corey Seidman: This is a tough question, but I’d say I’ve been most impressed by Freddy Galvis. I expected his extra-base hit power to go away after we found out about the PEDs, but he leads the Grapefruit League in doubles and legitimately looks like he could turn into a valuable starting middle infielder. It’s pretty exciting to see what he’s capable of this year.


Jon Nisula: The player that has impressed me so far is Ryan Howard. He has been absolutely mashing the ball this Spring, and it is especially impressive because he’s had a few down years with injuries. A bounce back 2013 from him would be fantastic.

Ryan Dinger: The player I’m most impressed by so far is Mike Adams. In his three innings of work, he has yet to allow a run, struck out two batters, walked none, and allowed just two hits. There were concerns about how healthy Adams would be this season, and his positive play has done more than enough to quell them. If he can carry this momentum through the regular season, the Phillies could have a very formidable back end of the bullpen, increasing their chances of returning to postseason play.

Alex Lee: I tend to be selective when deciding when to put stock in spring training statistics, but sometimes they’re hard to ignore.  For me, that has been this case this spring with Kevin Frandsen.  Frandsen seemed like the typical journeyman when he latched on with the Phillies two years ago and while I am still not convinced he is anything more than that, he has definitely impressed in limited time last year and so far this spring.  Frandsen actually has a better slugging percentage than Brown (.727 to .675) in nearly the same amount of at bats (33 to 40).

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Ian's athletic achievements include getting stuffed by NBA center Aaron Gray in high school and hitting .179 over four years for NYU against D-III, NAIA, JuCo, and NCBA schools. Ian hopes his athletic successes will help him achieve his dream of becoming the underground Bob Uecker.

 
 
  • Posts: 0 Bob D

    I think you all got em all. I would say Howard, Brown, Frandsen, Revere, Galvis, and Joseph in that order. Adams and believe it or not Savery as pitchers.

     
    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      Well, the question was besides Brown, who’s impressed the most, and they did get ‘em all except one. Since he hasn’t been a surprise, it’s easy to overlook him, and granted, you do have to overlook 1 start V The Dominican Bashers. So one would be fair not to criticize those that voted elsewhere, but since we’re kinda branching into other nominees, I’ll give a shout out to number 35. On the whole, he looks rock solid ready to assume the ace role, and that’s no small task.

       
  • Posts: 120 Dave P

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    Cody Asche also looked good in the limited amount of plate appearances we saw. OBP of .438, OPS of .938 in 16 PA. He made a couple of errors at third, I believe (hard to find the stats on that right now), so there’s room for growth. But he looked good, Joseph looked good, Brown is looking good, and Revere is looking good…maybe this team will be okay in the future.

     
  • Posts: 0 George

    You failed to mention whether the “impression” was to be a good one or a bad one. Therfore, I’m voting for Delmon Young. How can he not make an impression, albeit negative, when he’s not playing at all, then compounding that issue with statements about not having a clue when he’ll be ready and not being anxious to get into things because it’s cold outside.

     
    • Posts: 120 Dave P

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      At the risk of looking like a tool-

      im·press
      /imˈpres/
      Verb
      - Make (someone) feel admiration and respect

      therefore impressing =/= impression

       
      • Posts: 5085 Lefty

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        Grammar Police? Seriously?

        Like it or not “leaving a bad impression” is an accepted and widely used phrase, whether it’s applied correctly or not by us common folk.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        I don’t know what dictionary you’re using, but that’s certainly not the only definition of the word. Impress, according to my dictionary is far less specific, and never even mentions the words “admiration,” or “respect.”

        I don’t consider myself poorly educated, and was taught that any impression can be positive or negative.

        By the way, “impress” also means forced service, and was one cause of the US entrance into the war of 1812.

        I’d suggest that you resign from the grammar police. A dictionary is a heavy item to drop on one’s foot.

         
      • Posts: 0 Dave P

        Roffle, george.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        Maybe I’m a little thin-skinned today, but the name is George with a capital “G.”

        One thing about the internet is that people get lazy and forget the shift key. Another thing is that you get stupid words like “roffle.” That sounds to me like a reverse version of Elmer Fudd trying to say “waffle.” I refuse to use it, and I also refuse to use LMAO and other “txt mssge” derived shortcuts. I’m not fond of turning nouns into verbs, either; “growing” the language just sounds idiotic to me (one helps language to grow; one doesn’t “grow” it. Growing is something you do with vegetables).

        Anyway, I’m sort of sorry for making an issue out of “impress.” But definitely only sort of.

         
      • Posts: 0 Mike B

        Agreed. Context clues are your friend.

         
  • Avatar of The Original Chuck P

    Dave P dropping some grammar knowledge on George… worked.

    A lot of players have made good impressions. How about Ender Inciarte? How about Michael Young? How about Yuniesky Betancourt (hitting .379)? I could even consider adding Chase Utley… he hasn’t playing out of his mind but he’s playing AND his on base percentage is .342 (165 points higher than his BA). I’m excited…

     
    • Posts: 0 George

      No, it didn’t work, and goes to show that if one attempts to be a little silly, some fool, I mean tool, will incorrectly jump all over his word usage. (In this case it’s word usage, not grammar.)

      All DaveP has accomplished is to start an off-topic discussion by p—ing off a commenter.

       
    • Posts: 0 Ryne Duren

      My vote goes out to none other than mini mart! Why? you may ask. Because he impresses me with his ability to suck at such a consistant rate. I mean really. That’s hard to do. It’s like playing a football pool, it’s just as hard to pick 4 losers as it is winners, but for some reason some people can always pick 4 losers. Hence mini mart! a four time loser. consistantly.

       
  • Posts: 2980 Chuck A.

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    90 wins. I called it awhile ago and these performances by these gents only solidifies my prediction.

     
    • Posts: 0 Don M

      What’s interesting to me – was the split between guys that could have a major impact this year (Adams, Howard) .. and guys that would potentially help us most in 2014 and beyond (Galvis, Joseph) …

      I think the Phillies should be about a 90-win team.. I think there were 13 leads lost in the 8th inning last year. If those are ALL wins, that’s a 94-68 record… So despite a crazy amount of injuries last year (Halladay, Howard, Utley)- we still managed to play respectable baseball.

      This is an interesting year in many ways – and I’ll be watching the box scores from Reading and Lehigh Valley more than in years past

       
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        I see a range of 85-92 wins, on the high side if injuries are few and things generally break their way.

        On the point about 8th inning leads, they were 65-12 in games where they led going into the 8th. It’s not fair to expect any team to be perfect there (the best any team did last year was the Braves, with only two losses after leading going into the 8th), but even if they only lost 4 of those games, instead of 12 (i.e. 73-4 in total), which would have been the 4th fewest losses in the NL when leading after 8, that would have given them 89 wins, or one more than St. Louis.

        If the Phillies were only at the NL average at holding 8th inning leads they would have been 71-6, which would not have been enough to pass the Cards.

        All of the above assuming all else being equal, and ignoring the pesky fallacy of the predetermined outcome.

         
      • Posts: 0 Don M

        I get that… and I don’t expect perfection … but who would’ve thought that Howard and Utley would miss so much time… Stutes was missing and was a big key the prior year.

        That Halladay wouldn’t be Halladay..

        That Bastardo wouldn’t be Bastardo..

        All that stuff combined, and to see how close we still could’ve been to a playoff spot – gives me hope for this year. I only expected us to win 92-93 last year to begin with – and seeing how that number wasn’t that far out of reach … it has me excited to see how they do this season

         
    • Posts: 2980 Chuck A.

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      Don, the main reason that I predicted 90 wins was just having Utley and Howard back in the lineup from Day 1 and each one playing at least 140 games. Any time your #3 and #4 hitters are out of the lineup for as an extended period as those two were…there are bound to be problems.

      So yeah…add to that one of your aces down for two months and key parts of the bullpen missing (Stutes for one) then it just snowballs downward from there. And I agree that the fact that they climbed back to .500…and competed for a spot well into September…after being 14 games below .500 in July. …That’s amazing in itself!

      Sure, there are tons of question marks going into the season. But EVERY team has them so
      until they’re clearly out of it (and I don’t think they will be at any point this season) I’m going to remain very hopeful and excited.

       
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        Dearest Chuck A,

        Regarding your ongoing prediction of 90 wins, that’d probably satisfy my basic goal of engaging my time in an entertaining season, so I’m largely in favor of it. And not only are you a big boy capable of going what you feel comfortable doing, but have followed the team and probably the game a time equal to my indulgence, so you know what you’re doing. Actually, the time is meaningless, but the quality of thoughts you express lends toward that.

        But just for the sake of a sounding board, I’ll offer 2 thoughts.

        One, the bit about Utley and Howard holds some degree of weight as 3-4 hitters and good portion of production, but more importantly, I wonder (rhetorical q) if you looked at other clubs and measured what they missed, let alone improvements made and compared that A quick example might be Werth healthy all year, Harper with experience, and Stras unleashed might go from 98 wins to 108..

        Secondly, so few people are comfortable without predictions. Editors and Directors mandate predictions out of all media because peeps wanna read ‘em, and the tradition of sports predictions isn’t going away. Fans, for whatever reason love to join the fray, and make predictions of their own.

        I learned a loing, long time ago that pre season predictions are a waste of time. It isn’t even the injury factor that led me to that, so much as the trade deadline is such a complete wild card factor. So just as a personal standard, which I wouldn’t force on anyone else, I offer general senses. I read the hell out of pre season picks with explanations in case I might learn something, but specific standings, or win totals, to me are about self satisfaction through a firm thought.

        If the club wins 90, perhaps we’ll exchange positive thoughts on it, but you won’t see me standing in luine to congratulate you on the call. And I hope, and suspect that if it happens, you will humbly acknowledge the 20,000 unforseen things that developed to get the club to a perfect matchpoint.

        Now, let’s get going toward 90 wins.

         
      • Posts: 2980 Chuck A.

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        And to my dear PN compatriot, Ken…. I predicted 90 wins awhile ago largely in response to certain people (names will be withheld for now) that were calling for this team to barely win 80. I saw the possibilities LAST season without all the injuries and it just makes sense that without them they COULD have very well won 90+ and gotten into the playoffs. Two main hitters in the middle of the lineup out for 3-4 months, one of the staff aces out for 2 months, back-of-the-bullpen issues, etc., etc. Not trying to make any excuses but these are legitimate reasons why last year came up short for them.

        So, yes, you are correct in saying that 90 wins this season might not warrant congratulations in my direction (because my reasoning really isn’t all that earth-shattering, is it?) but I’ll hold onto the prediction anyway and be forever in certain people’s faces ( again….names will be withheld for now) when it actually comes to fruition.

        And if I’m wrong I’ll eat my words like the “big boy” that you say I am.

        Signed Chuck A,
        President and CEO of the 90 Win Club

         
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        Your reason for predicting 90, because of the negative fools that were around 80 is a felonious charge.

        And I find you innocent of all charges by reason of justifiable homicide.

         
  • Posts: 0 Justin McElroy

    It’s hard to base any opinions on these spring training stats. Polanco played out of his mind last ST and was basically MIA during the regular season. It’s good to see Utley and Howard looking healthy, but it’s alarming to see Halladay struggle for the second consecutive spring. The corner OF and 3B defense still scares me (along with the pitching staff, I’m sure).
    I’m still seeing a team playing .500 plus or minus a game or two. If Halladay can rebound (a big if), maybe they can push it to 85 wins. Washington & Atlanta just have so much talent that haven’t even reached their best seasons yet. Guys like J. Upton, Heyward, Strasburg, Zimmermann and Harper have barely scratched the surface of what scouts project them to be. It should be an interesting season though.

     
    • Posts: 0 Don M

      Justin, while I agree with that … those teams also have guys that AREN’T on their way up …. Washington has Werth and LaRoche … Ryan Zimmerman has had two long DL stints in the past 5 seasons, is he “Injury prone” like Utley… Ian Desmond had power & avg boosts last year that will be interesting to see if they get repeated

      The Braves lost a lot of “leadership” in Chipper and Prado … whether that’s worth anything, or not, who actually knows ..Players, coaches and front office personnel tend to say that stuff like that matters- while most writers call it BS. But regardless of their clubhouse presence, they’ll be missed on the field .. The Braves could be very good, but also have some key guys getting older, Hudson, McCann, Uggla … and then a very young rotation.

      I think the Nats are the CLEAR favorite in the NL EAST (if not the entire NL) .. though how they play with a target on their back will be interesting. Will Harper press too much to avoid the sophomore slump? is Dan Haren able to get back to All-Star form? … It will be a very entertaining season … and the Mets rotation could make for some interesting games too.. The NL East is a solid division this year .. and I think the Phillies COULD finish 2nd and grab a Wild Card spot

       
      • Posts: 0 Justin McElroy

        I’m not saying the Phillies have no chance for the post season. I’m only saying a lot more things will need to go right for them than for the Nationals or Braves in order for them to contend. Objectively speaking, they’re still the third most talented team in the division. This is why they play a six month season though – a lot will happen between now and October.

         
      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        “Objectively speaking, they’re still the third most talented team in the division.”

        The only way objectively can be applied to the NL East is that Washington is the best team on paper, and to the extent that it likely carries out on the field.

        Use of the word objectively in that sentence is classic subjectivity.

         
 
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