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Phils Drop Pair To Reds, Lose Lannan and Brown

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Thu, April 18, 2013 07:50 AM | Comments: 25
2013 Game Recaps

Last night was not a fun night to watch the Phillies. Reliever Phillippe Aumont could not retire any of the batters he faced, compounded by a shaky play by Ben Revere, and quickly dropped the resumed first game 1-0 in nine and a half minutes. As for the second game, when the highlights include Raul Valdes doubling and Freddy Galvis hitting an eighth inning home to bring your team within nine, it is easy to say it was a rough night. They dropped the second game 11-2.

PROPER GAME ONE WRAP UP

As Corey mentioned in his review of the suspended game, Kyle Kendrick was dealing. From Corey:

For the first time in his career, Kendrick allowed no runs and two or fewer hits over at least seven innings. His final line was: 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 4 K. He induced 13 groundouts — two in every inning except the sixth. KK held Votto, Phillips and Jay Bruce hitless in seven at-bats, with four groundouts and three strikeouts.

Homer Bailey was even better, giving up only two hits in eight innings, striking out 12. Aumont let three straight batters reach base to start the ninth and Joey Votto singled in the winning run for a 1-0 win.

OFFENSE? WHAT OFFENSE?!

In the second game last night, the Phils bats were again stifled, with Mike Leake going seven, striking out seven and giving up only three hits and no walks. After being fifth in baseball in taking walks from 2007-2011, the Phils are now 25th in baseball since the start of the 2012 season.

Look, I get it: Ruben Amaro has literally looked me in the eye and told me his team doesn’t care about walks, he cares about production. Fine. But his strategy certainly didn’t hold up very well in this series against the Reds: 24 Ks, 0 free passes. The Phillies are now 27th in the MLB in BB%, eighth in K%, 23rd in batting average, and 26th in on-base percentage. The excuses and caveots about it being early do not really apply: this team, as constructed, does not take walks and is currently not hitting, they aren’t getting base runners. There are 147 games left, but if they don’t start to take some pitches, the Phillies will be in for a long season.

LANNAN AND BROWN OUT?

John Lannan, after two solid outings to start his Phillie tenure, got roughed up last night, getting plastered for six earned in 1.2 IP. Lannan, in his own words, tweaked his knee and does not know if he will miss any time. He will see a team doctor today in Philadelphia.

Domonic Brown was hurt on a Jay Bruce ball hit to left that he got a late jump on. The fleet-footed Brown used to his speed to make the play, but according to Matt Gelb, Brown felt a pop and some pain in his back and really felt it when he swang.

Brown will undergo an MRI while Lannan is attributing his issue to tendinitis.  It is unclear if either will need to visit the DL. If DL time is needed for Lannan, the Phillies could look to bring up 23-year old Adam Morgan (14 IP, 1.29 ERA, 9 K/2 BB), who dominated a very, very good Syracuse Chiefs team twice. Morgan is not on the 40-man roster but has outperformed 40-manners Tyler Cloyd (14 IP, 7.07 ERA), Ethan Martin (9 IP, 4.82 ERA), and Jonathan Pettibone (9.1 IP, 9.64 ERA) by a considerable margin.

Who would replace Brown? Darin Ruf is hitting .277/.300/.447 for the Pigs through 12 games and is on the 40-man roster. He would be the most logical fit, although the Phillies could theoretically take a shot on bringing up and sneaking back down Steve Susdorf, who is hitting .273/.273/.364. Susdorf, 27, is an unlikely call-up because, like Morgan, he is not on the 40-man roster. But if the Phillies want to let Ruf play pressure-free in Lehigh Valley for a few weeks longer, Susdorf could probably clear waivers if they added him to the 40-man roster and then designated him.

Tyson Gillies and Zach Collier are the only other healthy outfielders on the 40-man roster. Gillies has looked lost at the plate, in the field, and on the basepaths and it is hitting .111/.220/.167 for the Pigs and Collier is hitting a comparable .122/.234/.146 for Reading. Anthony Hewitt, 23, is currently hitting .343/.395/.457 for Reading with six steals in nine tries but is not on the 40-man roster. He is a long shot to fill a possible void left by Brown as he would absolutely not clear waivers on the way back down and the Phillies likely do not have a 40-manner right now that would but he is the only outfielder at any level in the system who is squaring up the ball right now.

Yikes.

 

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Ian's athletic achievements include getting stuffed by NBA center Aaron Gray in high school and hitting .179 over four years for NYU against D-III, NAIA, JuCo, and NCBA schools. Ian hopes his athletic successes will help him achieve his dream of becoming the underground Bob Uecker.

 
 
  • Posts: 0 TheDipsy

    “Don’t care about walks. Just care about production”. Hmmmm. Is that like “I don’t care about the money, I just want the stuff”? What a stupid thing to say. In order to get a good pitch to hit you have to let the pitcher know that you will make him get the ball over so you can get one. When they don’t – you must be willing to walk. And walk they don’t. What good is Revere’s speed if he can’t get to first? Baseball guys have been shouting at their kids “walk’s as good as a hit” in little league forever. Why is that? Are they stupid? Get on base please – good things happen when you do.

    Its early but I’m starting to get that old feeling again. The stagnancy and dysfunction of the offense.

    The Dipsy

     
    • Posts: 0 hk

      Yeah, but you can’t drive in a run with a walk unless the bases are loaded and RBI = production.

       
      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Some sites have a distinct font or other notation for sarcasm, and that would be useful here to avoid any confusion (not that there should be any).

         
      • Posts: 0 hk

        You interpreted my sarcasm without a different font, so I’ll assume others will as well.

         
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr

    Last year there was a lot of its still early talk. That quickly became Oh cr*p! Whilst its still is technically early they might want to take a look at things before it isnt too early anymore.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bob D

    Its still early! LOL

    I wonder if Toronto wants an infield on the cheap? Maybe we can get some of those AAAA players that Ruben likes.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Cards are next for 5 at the Bank. Redbirds have struggled some offensively, but you wouldn’t know it from this Post Dispatch piece,

    Of the 10 hitters the Cardinals had employed the most often this year, nine of them were hitting over .300 with runners in scoring position, and David Freese was close at .286 on two for seven.

    In order, the averages were Carlos Beltran, 667; Matt Holliday, .636; Matt Adams, .600; Allen Craig, .375; Jon Jay, 333; Yadier Molina, .333; Pete Kozma, .333; Daniel Descalso, .333; and Matt Carpenter, .308.

    Beltran and Craig have had to be clutch hitters because, with runners not in scoring position, they were batting .093 and .212, respectively.

    Manager Mike Matheny said this spring, “We were constantly talking about situational hitting.”

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      I thought it was interesting that the team that showed the most improvement with RISP last year (compared to other situations) was the Phillies.

      AVG:
      no RISP: .253 (8th in the NL)
      with RISP: .263 (4th)
      %change: +4.1% (1st)

      OPS:
      no RISP: .701 (10th)
      with RISP: .763 (5th)
      %change: +8.9% (1st)

      So with no runners in scoring position they were in the middle of the pack. With RISP they were 4th or 5th depending on which you use.

      Note those were by far the biggest differences in average and OPS. Next biggest were 2.5% (average) and 5.4% (OPS). So for most teams, we would expect their RISP stats to look pretty similar to their overall stats, and for St. Louis, for example, just because they’ve had good success so far with RISP does not mean that will necessarily continue.

       
  • Posts: 4954 Lefty

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    Ben Revere is not holding up his end of the bargain. Either that or he’s not being coached properly, but I have my doubts about that. We were told the kid didn’t have home run power, my original thought was if he brings the CF defense, I can live with that. We were not told he couldn’t even hit a ball out of the infield.

    I get that the team as a whole needs to be more patient, but sometimes that’s not the reason you don’t walk. In Ben Revere’s case I’ll repeat what either hk or Schmenkman said yesterday, if he can’t hit the opposition is going to throw him strikes- he should be swinging, they’re not afraid to let him make contact, and thus not wasting pitches on him.

    Last but not least, I’ve had enough of the showboating by our Centerfielder. I’d like to see him cut the circus “over the shoulder Willie Mays” crap out and play good fundamental defense. If you can’t get to a ball, play it off the wall and hold the runner to a double instead of a triple. Does the guy want to be on SportCenter or does he want to win? Yes I’m frustrated, and i know it wouldn’t have helped in the second inning last night anyway, but IMO it’s just not the right way to play and the guy has done this at least twice now. I’m seriously beginning to wonder about Revere.

     
    • Posts: 0 Rudy Canoza

      For his career, Revere has only had 33 extra base hits in 1051 ABs. I think the Phillies got exactly what they traded for.

      It’s not just Revere though, the entire outfield is just brutal. Everyone will harp on the “small sample size”, but these are guys who would be fourth or fifth outfielders on a contending team. They’re basically getting no production from four positions (including catcher). We know Ruiz will be back soon, but I’m not counting on Delmon Young as the bright light at the end of the tunnel for the outfield.

       
      • Posts: 4954 Lefty

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        They got exactly what they traded for? A .194/.242/.194 triple slash? I don’t think so.

        I’m just frustrated today, I guess I shouldn’t have picked on him like that. Let’s hope he’ll do better soon.

         
      • Posts: 4954 Lefty

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        Oops, I forgot to include this Rudy, I don’t think this is what they had in mind when they made the trade. And as bad as this is, the ball he dropped in the first game was worse IMO.

        http://www.the700level.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/news/Was-This-Ben-Revere-Play-the-Most-Awkwar?blockID=838157&feedID=8510

         
      • Posts: 0 Rudy Canoza

        I’m purely talking about his non existent extra base power. Of course they expect him to hit for a higher average, but he’s solely a singles hitter who rarely walks.

         
      • Posts: 0 George

        Watched the video and all I can say is that when one misses what could have been a spectacular catch, one will almost always look awkward. At least he didn’t have it bounce ino the stands ala Ruf. This ball may simple have drifted more than any outfielder could have predicted and that, perhaps, is why Revere’s leap didn’t do the job.

        I have, however, read that certain scouts claim that Revere runs some bad routes and it’s only his speed that makes him decent, or perhaps better than decent.

        I think his defense will work, but I sure hope he can hit better than he has so far.

         
  • Posts: 4954 Lefty

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    It seems almost impossible to go a whole series without taking a walk doesn’t it? I mean, even if you were trying to, someone on the other team would still… that’s a wow.

     
  • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

    Break ‘em up! It was great while it lasted but it is over. Let’s trade our best for good prospects and rebuild. Look at the Mets, they got a prospects from the Giants and Blue Jays and others and those guys are showing up. We can’t move Howard but everyone else, except Hamels, should be on the block because age is going to catch up with them. For the right price move Utley, Rollins, Lee, Chooch. We are going to lose anyway, this way we build for the future. Otherwise we hope for .500 and at the end we have nothing.

     
    • Posts: 4954 Lefty

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      I’ve been here several years, and have never once disagreed with your well thought out comments Bob.

      Are you serious or is your tongue in your cheek?

      If you’re serious I think it’s way too early. We’re all frustrated, but it’s way too early.

       
      • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

        Lefty – Yes, I am serious. Really, when you think about it what is it that is going to drive this team to a championship? Pitching? We have two great starters – Lee and Hamels – after that it is Doc who will never return to prior form and well, that is it. We have two good back of the bullpen guys and some others but the numbers speak for themselves.

        Hitting? Look at that outfield, seriously. Yes, Utley looks good right now but will you sign him to a four year contract with those knees.

        Look beyond this year and we have no one coming up who is going to be a star. Move em now!

         
      • Posts: 0 chuck schreiber

        Your so correct Bob. Should have done it in off season.

         
    • Posts: 0 Rudy Canoza

      Way too early, although I can easily see it happening at the trade deadline.

       
  • Posts: 0 Andrew From Waldorf

    @ bob the problem is our best wont bring you any top prospects.

    The Mets trading R.A. dickey is how you trade a player for top prospects.

    You sell high. Not when the players have no value.

    @ the dipsy

    Stagnancy and dysfunction?

    Been saying it for many years.

    Just letting Rollins walk when he was such an easy option.

    And if anyone thinks that 2012 and 2013 are better because hes here and playing every day instead of Galvis ( or any other ML level SS) I disagree with you.
    And he can hit 60 himers this year and Id still disagree.

     
    • Posts: 0 Bob in Bucks

      Andrew – Utley is still a good commodity as is Lee (except for the money). Never underestimate the desperation of some teams to win NOW. That is how the Phillies got to this point.

       
  • Posts: 0 Rudy Canoza

    There are always trades to be made at the deadline. That’s when contending teams tend to overpay. If Utley and Ruiz are healthy and performing in July, there’s no reason why they couldn’t find a deal similar to the 2011 Carlos Beltran deal (for top prospect Zack Wheeler).

    Cliff Lee becomes more valuable depending on how much money the Phillies decide to pick up. Teams are always looking for pitching in July. The more money the Phillies pick up, the better the package they’ll receive will be.

     
  • Posts: 0 mo wa

    swang?

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Lannan did get placed on the 15 day DL, with a roster move pending tomorrow.

     
 
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