Gameday 70: Phillies at Braves

Posted by Amanda Orr, Wed, June 18, 2014 12:00 PM | Comments: 28
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Philadelphia Phillies (30-38) at Atlanta Braves (36-33)

Starting Pitchers:
PHI: Roberto Hernandez (2-5, 4.26)
ATL: Aaron Harang (5-5, 3.20)

Time: 12:10 at Turner Field
Weather: Cloudy, 84
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Lineup: C Hernandez SS / Nieves C / Utley 2B / Howard 1B / Byrd RF / Brown LF / Mayberry CF / Brignac 3B / R Hernandez P

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  • Posts: 0 PaMikeyDC

    Why so early?

  • Posts: 0 Jeff Orbach

    Will the real Fausto Carmona please take 1 step forward?

  • Posts: 0 PaMikeyDC

    A nice 2-0 lead and I was feeling all warm inside….but good ol’ Robo Hernandez.


  • Posts: 0 wbramh

    Perhaps the Braves told the Phillies to show up at the more common time of 1:10 PM. After dropping two to the cellar-dwellers, the Braves could be trying to steal one via a no-show forfeit.

    Or maybe they’re trying to escape Atlanta.They’ve been stinking up the town (9 losses in the last 14) and probably want to get a head start on their 11-game road trip.

  • Posts: 0 Mike in NJ

    I’m shocked SHOCKED that a guy that’s a career 26 games under .500 and ERA close to 5 is terrible. Maybe the name change fooled Ruin into thinking he was someone else? Not sure who I dread more taking the mound…him or Buchanon.

    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      You can think that about Hernandez if you want, but I’ll tell you what. I have no idea where Marquis is in his training, but if he’s far enough along, I’m bringing him up to pitch Thursday night despite his must be similar career ERA.

      Lemme rephrase to confirm my rumored sanity. I’d SERIOUSLY think about it. Hell if I care if it seems panicky. Parcells once started 78 year old Vinnie Testaverde the end of the year because he gave his team the best chance to win. Same thing with Marquis. Maybe Buchanan will surprise us.

      • Posts: 0 wbramh

        Assuming Testaverde will need time to refine his slider, what’s Phil Niekro up to these days?

      • Posts: 0 c. schreiber

        Ken are you doing blow again. MARQUIS!! If they do that they might as well bring Camp up to close, Christ sake!!

  • Posts: 3668 Tracey

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    Tuned in the game late and was amazed to see the Phils WINNING 8-4. Now at 9-5 and still in disbelief. Ryan Howard going 3-0 with a walk? Who are these guys and what have they done with the Phillies???

  • Posts: 0 Hogey's Role

    Wow the offense has showed up today so far…

    To anyone that is watching, how does Cesar Hernandez look at shortstop today??

  • Posts: 1157 betasigmadeltashag

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    Don’t post much work schedule forces me to DVR games and watch at. 3 am. I was just wondering why AFW switched his anger to RAJ from Ryan. Oh yea because he is pkaying well especially this series. Nice to see them to continue to hit after losing the lead in the first. And maybe. Chase should take a day off more often. Now no walks from the pen. Go Phils

  • Posts: 3668 Tracey

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    Woo hoo! Double digits!!

  • Posts: 1157 betasigmadeltashag

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    Marlon Byrd That was a pretty bad signing by RAJ this off season. Above average D 11 HR 43 RBIs.

    • Posts: 0 Scotty Ingerton

      The concern with a signing like Byrd is always the back end of the deal. Raul Ibanez was a local folk hero his first year with the Phillies. By year three, he was statistically one of the worst players in baseball. And yes, playing in an outfield with Brown & Revere makes Byrd look like Roberto Clemente by comparison.

      • Posts: 0 schmenkman

        Following Delmon also magnifies the effect.

      • Posts: 0 wbramh

        Being among the more vociferous critics of the Byrd signing, I’ve been proven wrong on a few counts. As it turns out, he really was an inexpensive alternative to the high-priced outfielders peddling themselves in FA – an inexpensive alternative but not on the cheap as I feared.

        Additionally, aside from his markedly improved performance over Delmon Young, Byrd seems to be a polar opposite in personality; a fun guy who seems to lighten the load for others (especially when he’s carrying Revere in from CF on his back).

        Yeah, there are the strikeouts, but what Marlon does for the team between strikeouts ain’t shabby.

    • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

      I think your conclusion on the signing’s pretty good, but I guess at the risk of sounding like I’m looking for something to be critical of, it’d be 2 things.

      One, Ruben maybe jumped the gun on the signing, grabbing him EARLY. I might be wrong, but I think the price would have gone down. The length is okay, Byrd was gonna get 2 years, but the amount maybe a little high. Although 8 mil for a regular OF is cheap. But it was a massive increase over last year.

      Secondly, again, maybe being a little picky, he, by memory, has had some of his more productive offensive games on days like today, so there’s a little padding making the numbers look good on the whole, but it’s a little more to it.

      But he’s really done a very good job on the whole.

  • Posts: 3668 Tracey

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    Wow! Phils sweep Braves!!! Who’da thunk it???

    • Posts: 0 wbramh

      Don’t mean to brag but I thunk it.

      I wrote here last week that the Phils would sweep the Braves and then sweep the Cards… then come home and undo everything they gained.

      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        I’ll vouch for him not bragging. Had the Braves took the series, I have no doubt he’d have reminded folks he predicted the Phils would sweep.

        But if that scenario does happen, and no pattern of up and down is beyond this club, I am gonna be SO pissed. And I don’t even care about this stuff that much. Heaven forbid they pull that nonsense.

      • Posts: 0 wbramh

        “Had the Braves took the series, I have no doubt he’d have reminded folks he predicted the Phils would sweep.”

        Sure. That’s right.
        Uh huh.

        (fat chance)

        But who know, Ken? If they do manage to prove me a supreme seer by going on to sweep the Cards, maybe they’ll start playing baseball like they did when they believed they could come back and win any game in which they found themselves behind.

        The Giants sure looked like a doomed and mediocre challenge to the Dodgers around this time in 1951. In fact, Robby shut out the Giants on August 11th, dropping Bobby and the boys 13-1/2 games behind Dem Bums. And as we all remember, Chico Ruiz stole home and… never mind – wrong year.

      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        “The Giants sure looked like a doomed and mediocre challenge to the Dodgers around this time in 1951.”

        correct, they were 5 games back, and 7 over .500 on this date of that year. Webster’s saw that, and reworked it’s definition of hopeless the next day in revised print editions..

        Now what did look hopeless, was 100 years ago today when the nee Boston Braves dropped 10 under .500, and 10 games back before their eventual WS sweep.

      • Posts: 0 wbramh

        The Boston Braves 100 years ago, huh?

        Well I’m not as old as you so I’ll have to take your word for it…
        Okay, that’s a lie.

        Re: “Hopeless.” A different style of hopeless perhaps than expecting an under .500 team to take off. Whether your 7 games over or under .500 and can’t catch the division leader you’re in the same fix. But “Frustrated” may be a better word than “hopeless” for the Giants in the first half of the ’51 season. The Dodgers just kept rolling into August before they finally rolled over and it was the Giants turn to become invincible. That August and September must have been the darkest of months in Flatbush.

      • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

        When you referenced the NYG being in trouble on this date, it perked my curiosity because the 13.5 in August is as well remembered as any baseball number. That was why I looked it up. But the funny thing is, the Giants had good monthly splits in both June and July, so the Dodgers must have really been good to take the 5 game lead up to 13.

        Baseball coverage far less as it was in 1914, I’m sure one could figure out if the 1st half Braves underachieved, or were a complete miracle, but I recall doing some reading up on em a couple years back, and that was 1 good club. Like in retrospect, the Mets ’69 run wasn’t quite as big a deal as it seemed because the pitching was there.

        Phils remain what they are, but the Braves, for all their troubles still could have beat the Phils, like the Mets did, like the Cubs did. It’s not like Atlanta is worse than either of those 2. Nice to get a little relief at least.

  • Posts: 1157 betasigmadeltashag

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    SWEEP the Braves. Good series. One other good thing going to St Louis where Ryan hits the ball well. Bad thing is they are going to need 5-10 runs to win the first game.
    And my point on the Byrd signing was people bash RAJ a lot. And the need for a RF was filled pretty nicely and. 8 million per two years is pretty cheap for a potential 20/90 guy who can play a little D.
    Especially a good sweep while letting some guys rest. Just hope the Neives injury is not serious. GO PHIL and let’s see a 4 game sweep of the Cards

  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    Almost a really nice sidebar story in today’s ballgame. D Brown up, loaded, inning 4 batting for someone in the DN Homerun Payoff for the bases loaded prize of 10 grand. 3-0 count, Brown flied out to shallow center. That 3-0 count was definitely a hitter’s count, but I wish he’d made contact on a 3-1. 3-0 maybe can get the hiter overanxious. 3-1, you almost always swing all day long. Woulda been a nice prize.

    But I’d say enough prizes were collected over the last 3 games.

  • Posts: 0 Hogey's Role

    Grady Sizemore is now a free agent… Might be worth a look

    • Posts: 0 wbramh

      Now Sizemore would pique my interest.
      Before his knee issues virtually wiped out the last few seasons he was a pretty decent ballplayer. Shades of Utley, but like Utley, maybe he has a comeback in him.

      If Sizemore is ambulatory enough to play in the outfield. I’d consider offering him a modest contract with incentives – or at the minimum a minor league contract with incentives on the gamble he can return to being the old 25-HR,100 RBI Grady Sizemore. In that case, he would give us a younger and left-hand version of Byrd in CF. Just don’t know whether he has the leg(s) left but he’s only 31 and has that working for him.

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