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Gameday 82: Phillies at Pirates

Posted by Amanda Orr, Fri, July 04, 2014 04:54 PM | Comments: 114
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Philadelphia Phillies at Pittsburgh Pirates

Starting Pitchers:
PHI: Roberto Hernandez (3-7, 4.26)
vs.
PIT: Gerrit Cole (6-4, 4.02)

Time: 5:05, PNC Park
TV: Comcast Sportsnet
Weather: Clear, 74
Media: Twitter and Facebook

A Note for Tonight: Happy 4th of July!

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  • Posts: 0 Josh hower

    Hernandez is horrible. I’m sure there’s a triple A pitcher who can atleast throw strikes

     
  • Posts: 0 Mike in NJ

    How many more starts is Hernandez going to get?!? Another great Ruin signing. Dude has a career ERA near 5…why would anyone other than Ruin expect anything different?

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    I tune over after the world cup and its 4-0 in the second.

    The Phils might not score 4 the rest of the month so Id say they are in trouble.

    This is a must win game too.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Victorino sucked.

    They used to do columns and all the dummies would chime in he is over rated.

    How has the outfield been since then?

    The team is a disgrace and how Amaro shows up for work every day is beyond me.

     
    • Posts: 0 lefty

      So true.

       
    • Posts: 0 wbramh

      “…how Amaro shows up for work every day is beyond me. ”

      Tinted glass.
      I assume he puts on the hood after he parks.

       
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Send in the clowns, where are the clowns

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Here you go Lefty

    Whenever a ball is hit to the outfield by the other team mute your TV

    and play this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    I have the Pirates feed today. I didn’t understand why Byrd stood at the plate on the strikeout that got past their catcher and didn’t run , he would have been safe at first, then Asche walked, could have been two men on with only one out.

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Did our announcers explain it?

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    I mean it’s unlike Byrd not to hustle, did he just zone out?

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Not really and its par for the course.

    Sandberg will nto be here when or if this team is ever good again.

    I don’t know that any one on the roster will be here.

    But you are stuck in neutral until Amaro is gone.

    I don’t want to call for people to not attend games.
    If you are taking kids to the game or something do it.

    But I don’t see how else fans can voice their disapproval besides just not putting money in their pocket.

    I really believe Amaros incompetence sets the tone for the entire orginazation.

    If he was fired tonight.

    I honestly think you would see a difference on the field tomorrow.

    that’s how poor he has done his job.

    Its amazing.

    A saboteur could not have done as much damage intentionally.

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    I can’t prove it, but I think you’re wrong Andrew. I’ve changed my thinking over the years. I think he was just doing ownership’s bidding. I think he’s not the brightest mind in the business, but he is smart enough to know how to keep his job, whether he agreed with the direction they were taking or not. Sure he’ll eventually be fired, he’ll be the scapegoat. But until that time he’s earning more than he would flippin burgers. I’d do the same thing.
    I really think this is ownership’s mess. And you cant fire them.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    That would be a very sad thing.

    It puts you in the Dallas Cowboy and Washington Redskin land of hopelessness.

    I still say there is no salary cap.

    And you can out spend the other teams should be a factor.

    It is why the Yankees make the playoffs every year.

    The Phils would too with just a simpleton making decisions.

    But the decisions are sub simpleton.

    I cant take the bad fielding in the outfield.

    Mccutchen should get a cycle at least.

    meanwhile the Phillies have 1 hit in the 5th inning.

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    The replay rule is a joke too.

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Ouch

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    Your theory carries water because you really cant explain how Amaro is still in his job.

    Gotta love the commercials

    make your memories!!!!!!!

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    It’s more about what the quotes I read from David Montgomery. He truly believs his 08 core can keep butts in the seats, but that doesn’t prove anything about Amaro’s culpability. I just think it’s possible because otherwise why wasn’t he relieved of his duties?

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Cr-p, Brandon Moss just turned an ankle. He’s been one of my best this season.

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Pecking away. Double play but will take the run. What happened to Gerrit Cole? He was pitching a one hitter and they pulled him?

     
  • Posts: 0 Occam

    Hi.
    I am not that smart.
    I want to know if a smarter person can explain how RAJ is STILL the GM of this organization, with a bloated payroll, aging stars without replacements ready, and a team overly reliant on superior starting pitching which has been hit-and-miss this season.

    I am smart enough to know that players play and managers manage, but the team has gone down hill since RAJ took over.
    I thought maybe it was just that RAJ knows little about overseeing scouting, drafting, and making good trades, but then I figured it is because i am not that smart.

    Please, wise men and women of Phillies Nation, explain to me why RAJ still has a job with this organization and when the team can focus on rebuilding for the long-run.

     
    • Posts: 0 lefty

      Occam I am not wise enough to answer you question, I’m not sure anyone is.

       
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    And no answer on my earlier inquiry on why Byrd didn’t run out strike three? Is no one else watching this game?

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    And how come there was no answer on my earlier inquiry on why Byrd didn’t run out strike three? Is no one else watching this game?

     
  • Posts: 0 Andrew from waldorf

    2 runs.

    As boy George used to sing

    Its a miracle

     
  • Posts: 0 Scotty Ingerton

    This Marte, McCutchen, Polanco outfield is one of my favorites. So much talent.

     
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    On this date in 1964, the Phillies won in 11 (Bunning pitched 10) over the Giants.

    The Giants started an OF that night of McCovey in left, Mays in center, and Duke Snider in right field.

    Had that trio started in the Phils outfield tonight……

    We’re talkin’ Willlllie, NcCovey and The Duke. Say hey, say hey, say hey.

    Hell, had the Phils played their starting OF from that night, Callison, Gonzalez and Covington in tonight’s quest to be 20 under by the break…..

     
    • Posts: 0 schmenkman

      The Duke hit .210, with a .625 OPS and awful fielding. Sounds about right for the ’14 Phils.

       
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    I was just giving Fausto a little praise earlier just a little and of course he throws a stinker.

     
  • Posts: 0 Scotty Ingerton

    Look on the bright side – at least they had a one game winning streak.

     
  • Posts: 0 Scotty Ingerton

     
    • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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      That’s how it’s done. I believe they will be a force to be reckoned with for 5 or 6 years.

       
  • Posts: 0 Ken Bland

    There actually are trades that a label of great can justifiably be applied to as soon as the paperwork’s complete.

    This, being called a “great trade” by the Cubs is way, way premature in any circumstance.

    Great stands a decent chance of applying to Oakland. But even that is just a probability.

    From the Cubs standpoint, in going off reading material, which is my limitation of following many teams, the Chitown club has accumulated a wealth of offensive talent, duplicated and triplicated at the 6 hole. And their organizational pitching depth took a blow here. They have to balance out their talent by the time this rumored Cubs-Stros Fall Classic rolls around in 2017 before we see how balanced their assets are. And if any one component of the game separates as a leading factor, it was, is, and sho nuff always will be starting pitching. IF these assets are wisely traded, and the Cubs escape their long time schneid, only then can it be fairly stated that the greatness started with this accumulation of talent during the Theo era.

    The A’s meanwhile, have replaced injury plagued starter depth and certainly made the price of
    acquiring starting pitching even more expensive. It looks like it has the favored potential to be a help to both clubs. But it favors Oakland in the short term assuming Samardja and Hammel pitch close to 1st half levels in the stronger league.

    No matter what the Cubs do, they will always have the Cardinals in their division which makes favorable playoff positioning that much more challenging. And the Cubs have at least had a share of tease positions over the last 60 years. Those shouldn’t be considered good enough anymore. So they really HAVE to parlay this overstocked depth with moves that work out. Until then, “great” is nowhere near applicable.

     
    • Posts: 0 Scotty Ingerton

      They used a guy that they weren’t going to have next year and a guy that they weren’t going to have in 2016 and turned them into valuable long term assets. They took about 15 starts from Hammel and maybe 50 starts from Samardzija and ended up with one of the top five prospects in the entire sport (Russell) plus another number one pick (McKinney) who projects to be a starting player in the future. I call that a great trade.

      It’s great for Oakland as well, but they are two teams with opposite objectives. Oakland is looking at this season and next season, and the Cubs are looking well beyond that. If Russell turns out to be as good as the scouts believe he will, Samardzija & Hammel will be long gone from Oakland at the time he’s a perennial All Star.

       
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    Gameday 83:
    Bottom of the first, I just tuned in and already they’ve given up 2 runs. This team is tragic.

     
    • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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      PN Math?

       
      • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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        It maybe game 87, but PN gameday numbering is only up to 83. Even PN doesn’t care enough about the Phils to number all of their games.

         
  • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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    Gameday number 87 Phillies at Pirates

     
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    It’s depressing. I find myself not so much hoping the Phils will win, but just hoping they don’t get shut out.

     
    • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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      I watch a young exciting club like the Pirates and think they are and will be exciting to watch for several years.

       
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    I feel bad for rookies like Buchanan. Will his confidence and his career ever come back from this suckfest that we call Phillies 2014?

     
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    I find myself breathing a sigh of relief that Howard turned a walk.

     
  • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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    UGGGHHH!!

     
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    (sigh) Are they going for a record in leave ‘em loaded?

     
  • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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    I’m a diehard, but this is just tough to watch right now

     
  • Posts: 0 c. schreiber

    Sad, sad, sad offense.

     
    • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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      Sad offense, sad defense, just sad all around. Every so often, they pleasantly surprise me, but not very often.

       
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    WOO HOO!!! NO SHUT OUT!!!

     
  • Posts: 5070 Lefty

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    Looks like a homer to me.

     
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    It’s above the bar when it bounces off, and nobody touched it before that.

     
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    WHEW! Still a HR.

     
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    (sigh) how many times does Dom Brown have to freeze in the outfield?

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    He can’t see the ones coming straight at him. I used to have that problem too, but then, no one was paying me a major league minimum salary.

     
    • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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      ^ LIKE

       
    • Posts: 0 wbramh

      As soon as a ball is hit between the left field line and center field, our left fielder freezes in place while our center fielder starts running towards Peoria by way of the Seychelles.
      I miss Whitey, dearly but I’m glad he didn’t have to witness this.
      In the meantime, some 79-year-old guy in right is the best position player on the team.

       
  • Posts: 3034 Tracey

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    He totally missed the bag, and he knows it, but he was so far ahead of Jimmy that they’re not going to reverse it.

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Good challenge, they have a chance. .

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    There is no way he makes a second swipe at it if he touched the bag the first time right? Oh well.

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    Pittsburgh is smart to bat their outfielders 1,2,3 . It’s an excellent top of the order.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    The Pirates pitcher has struggled and still they cant mount nothing. I like how Buchannan went hard after Polanco right there.

     
  • Posts: 0 bacardipr05

    Byrd isnt even trying..when Howard ever learn to lay off that pitch…100 years from now

     
  • Posts: 0 lefty

    McCutchen gets great reads on balls. He’s just a truly great all around player.

     
 
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