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Report: Phillies Talked with Cleveland About Cabrera

Posted by Pat Gallen, Tue, December 11, 2012 06:32 AM Comments: 42

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Ben Revere or Asdrubal Cabrera? According to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Phillies were in talks to acquire Indians shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera to play third base. They offered the Indians Vance Worley and a prospect (seemingly Trevor May), but Cleveland asked for a little more and the Phillies backed out. From Hoynes:

Before the start of the winter meetings last week in Nashville, the two teams were talking about a trade that would have sent shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera to Philadelphia for right-hander Vance Worley and prospects.

The Phillies were looking to improve their aging offense, but they didn’t want Cabrera to replace shortstop Jimmy Rollins, who is signed through 2014. They wanted the switch-hitting Cabrera to play third base.

Philadelphia offered Worley and two prospects. Worley made 23 starts last season, going 6-9 with a 4.20 ERA, before having right elbow surgery in September. He was 11-3 with a 3.01 in 2011 and reportedly will be ready for spring training. The Indians asked the Phillies to sweeten the deal, but they said no.

The question then is, who would you rather have seen become a Phillie; Revere or Cabrera? Cabrera’s has a pretty slick glove and a decent bat as well. Third base would have been taken care of, seemingly, for quite sometime. Ben Revere is very, very cheap and could be a Michael Bourn-type player in the future. Very interesting…

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Revere the First Step to a Successful Offseason?

Posted by Corey Seidman, Thu, December 06, 2012 03:23 PM Comments: 109

Raise your hand if you thought Ruben Amaro‘s first big move of the offseason would be trading for Ben Revere.

Over at CSNPhilly.com, Jim Salisbury and I did a 20-man series on Phillies offseason targets and he wasn’t on the list. ‘Tis the beauty of the winter meetings.

Let’s break this Revere trade down bit-by-bit, because there are so many components to it.

Did the Phillies give up too much? Did they get enough? Where does Revere hit? How do they replace Vance Worley? What is the next move? Does this open the door for a Josh Hamilton signing? (Yes, and I’ll explain why…)

But before getting to those questions…

Ben Revere hit .294 with 40 steals last season for the Twins.

Who is Ben Revere?

He’s a 24-year-old outfielder who spent most of last season in right field for the Twins, but is unquestionably fast enough to handle everyday CF duty. He’s played over 1,100 innings in center and is regarded as a very good defender with an incredibly weak, Juan Pierre-like arm.

He hit .294/.333/.342 last season with 40 steals in 49 attempts. He has no home runs in 1,064 plate appearances at the major-league level, and he barely hits any doubles.

Last season, 66.9% of Revere’s balls in play were ground balls. Not only did that lead the majors easily, it was the highest groundball rate any qualifying player has posted since 2002, when the data first became available. This is a good thing … speedsters should be putting the ball on the ground and trying to leg out singles. Revere led the AL in 2012 with 32 infield hits and finished third in baseball with nine bunt singles.

At 24, he probably hasn’t yet hit his ceiling, so it is pretty silly to see some outlets analyzing the trade from the standpoint of “this is who Revere is, and he will never be better.” The Phillies are hoping Revere turns into the next Michael Bourn. Revere over the next handful of years will probably cost less than Bourn does in 2013 alone. Continue reading Revere the First Step to a Successful Offseason?

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Amaro’s Patience This Offseason Should Be Praised

Posted by Ryan Dinger, Wed, December 05, 2012 04:30 PM Comments: 49

Think back to last offseason. Armed with a sizable budget, Phillies GM Ruben Amaro, Jr. couldn’t contain himself. He just had to spend. Jonathan Papelbon was the fortunate benefactor of Amaro’s generosity.

At the time, the deal was met with much criticism. Papelbon was, no doubt, a very talented closer with an established record of success. But the $50M deal Amaro gave him was the largest in guaranteed money ever given to a closer. Instead of waiting out the market, Amaro, in a fit of imprudence, had set it. As effective closers with a lesser pedigree signed much smaller deals, it became clear that the Papelbon deal was an overpay.

Now think back to April 2010, when an overzealous Amaro gave Ryan Howard a massive contract more than two years before he would hit the open market. Once again, instead of waiting out the market for a player, Amaro had established it.

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2012 Winter Meetings – Day 2 Recap

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Wed, December 05, 2012 07:46 AM Comments: 23

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Could the Vanimal be packaged in a trade for an outfielder? Jim Salisbury says the Phillies are dangling Worley in potential trades.

Rox Have Interest in Vanimal, Salisbury Confirms is “Trade Chip”

In a piece that may have gotten overlooked during the overnight, Troy Renck of the Denver Post reported that the Rockies do, in fact, have interest in Vance Worley. In a separate Tweet, Renck wrote that the Rockies would have to be “overwhelmed” to deal Dexter Fowler, who has two more years of team control remaining.

Jim Salisbury of CSN reported mid-day yesterday that the Phillies are dangling Worley, 2012 top prospect Trevor May, and Tyler Cloyd to try to obtain an outfielder. Some of the targets Salisbury mentioned include Fowler, Michael Cuddyer, Minnesota’s Josh Willingham and Ben Revere, and Toronto’s Rajai Davis.

Analysis: Call me crazy, but if the Phils are looking for a one year rental, I would execute a Cloyd-for-Davis swap as an insurance policy for center field. Davis, 32, has a career line of .270/.317/.370, has 223 steals, is 78% efficient on the base paths, and is only due $2.5 million in 2013. Davis has not played much center field since 2011 but generally takes good routes to the ball and makes up for defensive misplays with his speed in getting to the ball.

I would avoid Cuddyer at all costs: he’s due $10.5 million in each of the next two years and hit only .260/.341/.489 in Coors despite being a career .271/.341/.454 hitter. Willingham hit .260/.366/.524 with a career high 35 HR in Minnesota last year and is only due $7 million in 2013 and 2014; in agreement with Salisbury that he is the preferred target but his cost in prospects would fall in between that of Davis and Fowler. Not sure how much I’d give up.

Lee-for-Upton? Amaro strikes it down.

Yesterday afternoon, Pedro Gomez of ESPN tweeted that the Phillies had begun to discuss a trade that had the base of Cliff Lee and cash for Justin Upton. Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports was the first to strike this rumor down, followed by Nick Piercoro of AZ Central, who called the rumor “off base“. Last but certainly not least, Ruben Amaro himself struck down the rumor last night. That’s not a Hot Stove rumor – that’s a The Stove is on Fire rumor. The response here at Phillies Nation was so strong that it crashed our servers. Thankfully, we’re back and ready to talk more baseball.

Phils, M’s in on Bourn

As we reported yesterday, the Phillies and Mariners are now both “in” on Michael Bourn.

Victorino Strikes it Rich with Red Sox

Former Phillies center fielder Shane Victorino signed with the Red Sox yesterday for three years, ~$39 million. Keith Law of ESPN has already named the deal one of the worst contracts signed this off-season. Most of Law’s argument comes from the fact that he views Victorino as a platoon player because of his splits that favor him hitting from the right side. Victorino got his mega-deal despite hitting career worsts .255/.321/.383 last season.

Utley Ready for 2013

Jayson Stark Tweeted last night that Chase Utley‘s agent, Joel Wolfe, “described Utley as a man on a mission this winter“, stating: “If the season started in 2 weeks, he’d be ready to go.”

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Hot Stove: 2012 Winter Meetings, Tuesday Afternoon

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Tue, December 04, 2012 04:25 PM Comments: 17

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/28535.png&w=350&h=254Phils, Mariners In On Bourn

Per Jon Heyman of CBS Sports, the Phillies are “in” on Michael Bourn. It was also reported today that the one major free agent the Mariners had not been interested in, Bourn, was contacted through agent Scott Boras today. In the recap from yesterday, the suddenly-aggressive Mariners had been linked to just about everyone. We also learned today that the Mariners have touched base with the Diamondbacks regarding Jason Kubel.

Hamilton Close with Rangers, Mariners Still in Mix

Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports Tweeted Josh Hamilton and the Rangers are getting closer on a four-year agreement, noting that it is possible another team could still beat their offer. Danny Knobler of CBS Sports Tweeted the Mariners still believe they have a chance to sign Hamilton.

Red Sox Lead Three Team Pack to Sign Victorino

The Red Sox have emerged as favorites to sign Shane Victorino via Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. Victorino has reportedly been offered a three year deal worth $38 million from the Red Sox. The Indians and an unknown team are also heavily in the mix.

Nats Get Deeper Staff, Sign Haren

The Nationals added Dan Haren today on a one year, $13 million deal. Haren, 32, is coming off an uncharacteristically average 2012 but adds further depth to the reigning NL East champions.

Giants Seek Affordable Corner Outfielders

Ken Davidoff of the New York Post reported that now that the Giants have secured the services of Angel Pagan, their attention has turned to Nick Swisher. Davidoff notes that Swisher may be out of their budget so the Giants may turn to more affordable options like Jerry Harriston or Ryan Ludwick.

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2012 Winter Meetings – Day 1 Recap

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Tue, December 04, 2012 09:22 AM Comments: 6

The market for Hamilton is getting clearer. Photo: AP

Market For Hamilton Becoming Clearer

We learned yesterday that the Red Sox, Brewers, and Phillies are all on the sidelines, biding their time for Josh Hamilton while the Mariners have met with Hamilton the most recent. Jayson Stark Tweeted that the Phillies interest in Hamilton is “wary“. Jim Bowden of ESPN doesn’t think the Yankees should be counted out while Ken Rosenthal has heard that the Rangers have been the most aggressive suitor for Hamilton.

Pagan Gone

The Giants and center fielder Angel Pagan came to a four-year, $40 million contract agreement yesterday. We talked a bit about that here. Later in the day, Jim Salisbury of CSN reported that the Phillies don’t believe Michael Bourn‘s profile as a player is the best fit, that Cody Ross could be a good corner fit, and that they are “lukewarm” on a Shane Victorino reunion. We learned yesterday that Victorino has multiple three-year contract offers and at least one four-year offer on the table. Salisbury also reported that Ruben Amaro thinks the preferred method of acquiring a center fielder is via free agency rather than engaging in a trade.

Third Base

Yesterday afternoon, the Phillies were linked to Michael Young. Young is due $16 million for 2013 and was statistically the least valuable first baseman in baseball last year. This is not good news.

Granderson Now Available Via Trade

Buster Olney Tweeted yesterday that Curtis Granderson is available via trade. Granderson had a sharp increase in power but a sharp decrease in plate discipline (Ks up, BBs down) in 2012. The 31-year old center fielder is in the final year of his deal and is due approximately $15 million in 2013. Keep your eye on this one as a match for the Phillies. Continue reading 2012 Winter Meetings – Day 1 Recap

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Hot Stove: Winter Meetings, Monday Afternoon

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Mon, December 03, 2012 03:52 PM Comments: 34

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/6488.png&w=350&h=254Lot of news coming from the Winter Meetings in Nashville. Here are the topics that are catching our eye:

Center Field: Looking to Trade?

Jim Salisbury of CSN Philly is reporting that the Phillies have maintained their interest in Dexter Fowler and Peter Bourjos as trade targets. With the departure of Torii Hunter, Bourjos is now projected to be a starting outfielder for the Angels.

… or maybe a signing? Not Pagan.

Scratch Pagan off the list. Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Giants are close to re-signing Angel Pagan. UPDATE: The Giants have re-signed Pagan for four years, $40 million. Rosenthal was reporting that the Giants and Phillies continue to vie for Angel Pagan. Rosenthal believed both clubs see Cody Ross as a possible fall-back option even though Ross and Pagan have different skill sets.

Of note, according to Jon Heyman, Shane Victorino is being pursued by at least seven teams and has several multi-year offers on the table, including some three-year offers and one four-year offer.

Ichiro Update

Salisbury confirmed in his reporting that Ichiro and the Phillies have engaged in talks but it is unclear who reached out to who.

Swisher Waiting

Rob Bradford of WEEI.com is reporting that Nick Swisher may wait until Josh Hamilton signs before committing to a club.

Getting “Young”er at Third

Salisbury noted that Michael Young is being looked at by the Phillies as a possible solution at third. Young has statistically been one of the worst third baseman in the Majors and has not provided positive defensive value in the infield since 2006. Young was worth -1.4 WAR and hit .277/.312/.370 with 8 HR last year and is scheduled to make $16 million in 2013.

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Phillies Nation Mailbag: Third Edition

Posted by Ian Riccaboni, Sun, December 02, 2012 10:34 AM Comments: 9

This mailbag, among other things, contains references to Sid Vicious, 32nd-place MVP finishes, when Charles Rocket really wanted to know who shot him, and the time Joe Carter was traded in a salary dump in 1998.

A lot of Phillies news and rumors this week as we head into the Winter Meetings in Nashville. This week, the Phillies nearly acquired Astros’ closer Wilton Lopez for starter Tyler Cloyd and top position prospect Sebastian Valle, Chooch was suspended 25-games for unapproved adderall use, Ryan Madson signed with the Angels on an incentive-heavy deal, B.J. Upton signed with the Braves for $75.25 million, the Nats got even better with the acquisition of Denard Span, the Phils brought back Pete Orr and found a replacement-level catcher, Nate Schierholtz was not tendered a contract for 2013, the Phillies are in on Angel Pagan, and a couple of IronPigs signed with the Tampa Bay Rays. Phew, that was a mouthful.

Since our last Hot Stove update yesterday, things have gotten even more exciting: the Phillies appear to be a good match with the Cubs regarding Alfonso Soriano per Fox Sports’ Jon Paul Morosi and Buster Olney of ESPN reported that the Phillies appear to have offered the bigger contract in regards to annual value to Pagan. Now that the housekeeping is out of the way, let’s check the mail!

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Phillies Nation TV: 2012 Wrap Up

Posted by Pat Gallen, Tue, October 09, 2012 12:29 PM Comments: 4

On our final edition of Phillies Nation TV for the 2012 baseball season, Corey and I discuss the year and how it ended up the way it did. We go through the whole roster; from Ryan Howard and Chase Utley missing the beginning of the season, all the way down to Jeremy Horst and the bullpen.

The free agent market for the outfield and third base is not great, so we talk about the names and who is a reality for the Phillies.

We also answer a few reader comments and questions about the team.

Thanks for watching all season! Enjoy, and we’ll see you during the Winter Meetings.

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Odds and Ends: Ramirez, Rollins, Sherrill

Posted by Pat Gallen, Mon, December 12, 2011 03:20 PM Comments: 13

Aramis Ramirez has reportedly signed a three-year contract with the Milwaukee Brewers worth between $34-$37 million. He’ll man the hot corner for a franchise that is expected to lose it’s first baseman and could be without the MVP of the league due to a PED suspension.

Obviously, that makes it more likely that the Phillies hold on to Placido Polanco. There had been interest in Ramirez from the Phils side, but that seemed to be more of a backup plan if Jimmy Rollins did not re-sign. Now that Ramirez is out, it seems even more likely J-Roll returns.

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–We wait. It’s been a waiting game all offseason as the Phillies stick to their guns by not offering Jimmy Rollins the five-year contract he so desires. Rollins has lost several potential suitors, first by being adamant about his demands, and then during the Winter Meetings when teams like Milwaukee and St. Louis inked other shortstops to shorter, friendlier deals. Now what’s left?

Just come on home Rollins.

You’d think it’s just down to the Phillies, with perhaps San Francisco waiting in the wings should something go wrong. And I never count out the Red Sox, even though they have Marco Scutaro back in the fold. They’re always willing to spend money.

That being said, it seems like a contract is on the horizon. Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com noted over the weekend that Ruben Amaro Jr. would be meeting with Rollins’ agent, Dan Lozano, to discuss a new deal. No information has been leaked from that meeting as of yet. The two sides have kept it under wraps, which I’m assuming each prefer.

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